Maybe what we will need is “ ios basic “ ( do what you want - complies with EU rules ) and “ ios pro “ ( as we have it now ) for those who prefer the more secure walled garden and verified apps … and then those who favor status quo can opt in to pro. Easy peasy.
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Tim Cook Meets EU Antitrust Chief Ahead of iPhone App Sideloading Deadline
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I think that is the issue, back in the iPhone jailbreaking days you can restore your iDevice to remove (most) traces of jailbreaking activities and Apple couldn't prove you "broke" something
Well that should exclude arguments like you lose the warranty of your GPU just because you install some random malware, which at the OS level was allowed to execute malicious code.
The issue is always the OS or the user, it‘s never how things can be installed. You can see it on macOS and any other OS out there.
Honestly, allowing sideloading is actually a benchmark to how good iOS is programmed. I think Apple and all its social media army doesn‘t want everyone to see how little they have worked in areas which are relevant to user security.
How many things in life do you have no control over?
How about tax rates?
Surely every person in the EU should be able to decide what tax they want to pay?
So many consumer devices are locked and controlled. Why single out Apple products?
All those asking for this to happen had better be well prepared for a fightback and access to their hardware and stores.
Sony and Nintendo should be shaking...
Wonder what would happen if Apple just said "no" and pulled sales of items for a while?
Perhaps the public might revolt against the EU...
Maybe Apple could just sell items online from the UK and grant EU citizens access to AppStore as if they were in the UK?
So maybe for you, Android and other non Apple products are the way to go.
You know what you get (walled garden) before you buy an Apple product.
If you don't want that, then buy something else.
Then your choices dont affect anyone else.
That's it in a nutshell.
The choice some people make will affect (potentially) all other Apple device users.
Having supported a business app that shared a code base for both Apple and Android, I know there were still differences in the way they functioned. So many Android variants - you have to ask more questions to help users.
And when the company had an email attack, it was someone's Android phone that caused the issue multiple times until they located the phone owner. They'd loaded some dodgy unverified app.
How many people pushing opening up Apple phones just want to sideload pirated apps?
I have yet to hear one person say an app they need to install and why.
If you can figure out how to jailbreak it go ahead. Apple is under no obligation to assist you. I don’t have complete control over my consoles.
We are severely lacking history these days.
“Those who do not learn history are doomed to repeat it.” most likely writer and philosopher George Santayana who originally wrote, “Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it.”
Epic is one of the major driving force behind this. They also sued Google because it’s “too complicated” to side load on Android. They want their own store. They got exclusivity by using their cash reserves to force PC players to go outside Steam. There is a massively high possibility they will do the same on iOS.
Why do you all NEED side loading? Just don’t install apps missing from the App Store. Why do you all get your way and be damned with our wants? Apps WILL. 100% leave the App Store. Thus the walled garden WILL be gone.
Epic will push hard on the Android side too. And once it becomes even easier on Android the Google Play Store will become a wasteland.
And to your point about PC and Mac. I’m sick of having dozens of App launchers and maintainers and stores I need to sift through to find something and slow down my systems. It’s seriously approaching where we need something like Reelgood and JustWatch for where to get apps/games.
Any review process is better than nothing. And the correct solution to this is to make the app review process take weeks or months before you are approved. But NOBODY would go for that. Every dev wants approval as fast as possible. Shocking how things get less correct when you rush things huh?
This EXACTLY! We need tighter control on the App Store not abolish it entirely. So that app was 14th place. Do you think its position would be better if you need to scale up to look at dozens of other App Stores and websites for it?!
Yep. Also there is a reason why all the (correct) providers of applications give some form of hash for you to validate. I have been able to prevent some malware due to validating my download vs the manufacturer hash.
I STILL need to support older folks using Windows 10 clean up their cesspool of a computer by installing junk.
We are in the age of social engineering as the most popular form of malware.
So no, I don’t want my iPhone to work the same as Windows for goodness sake.
Let’s go all the way here. Every game should be allowed on Mac. No more Xbox and PS5 exclusives either. NVIDIA should be forced to open up CUDA and AMD and Apple can add CUDA cores. NVIDIA is pretty much the top dog JUST for CUDA workflows.
YES! As someone that has literally spent $50,000 on iTunes movies and TV shows and music since it’s existed, I’m still fine moving to another platform. You are way more locked in by your ISP than you are by Apple. I need to actually MOVE to get the internet I want.
I kinda like the idea that iOS is so closed that it's really hard to get ransomware or a hacked iPhone. I imagine that if iOS is open to random installs, then problems will begin and your aunts will get infected and then pass it to you
I really wonder where macOS is supposed to be such a closed system. If that were the case, you‘d have little to none developers working on Apple machines.
You think that an app installed from outside the magic App Store can bypass the access to camera, microphone, contacts etc. prompts?I kinda like the idea that iOS is so closed that it's really hard to get ransomware or a hacked iPhone. I imagine that if iOS is open to random installs, then problems will begin and your aunts will get infected and then pass it to you
I believe these will limit advancement from Apple in regards to features allowed on their platform. If they feel it will not be profitable to develop because their competitive position can be wiped away on a whim by competitors demanding they give it to them for free and regulators doing it. They will shy away from building platforms that put their efforts at risk and focus more on first party features that are tied to hardware or services like a Apple One and Arcade that just ads value to their devices.
I would frame that differently as iOS performing well with respect to privacy/security, working hand-in-hand with well-designed hardware.
And further... It's about the sum of the parts: excellent OS, excellent hardware, and vetted apps.
Mess with any one of the above three components and user privacy/security will suffer.
Thank you for showing and proving how little you understand about software development.
The issue with Apple review process is critical bug fixes can not get out quickly. There is no such thing as emergency deployment which is common.
Major security issue found guess what takes a lot longer to get a patch out.
If you think massive testing internally will find everything that is laughable. I get more useful information in the first day after release than I would get in months of testing. Raw numbers makes a huge difference and until it is out in the wild a lot of things are not spotted big time if the crash only happens 0.1% of the time that means you don’t know if it’s a false positive worth fixing if you find it in testing or how to repeat it. With out knowing how to repeat it then even harder to fix. Hence crash logs help out a lot to give a clue and say if a crash is a priority. I will not fix a crash that happens in 1 in a million uses but will fix one that is 0.2%. It all about how bad is it.
That or say it spiking pause a roll out.
Apple makes it even worse as no way for me to roll back a release to a previously approved one.
That and months of review never going to catch big ones as easy to get around reviewers. You push for months of review you can kiss the App Store goodbye as developers will say f it. The investment cost goes to high as they would just go to the web.
Apple review times are still to long.
I kinda like the idea that iOS is so closed that it's really hard to get ransomware or a hacked iPhone. I imagine that if iOS is open to random installs, then problems will begin and your aunts will get infected and then pass it to you
The App Store does not provide the protection you think. The reality is the core of the os provides it. Same API’s same rules same sand box for even side loaded apps. At its core iOS is more secure of an OS vs Android. The App Store has zero to do with that part.
If anything it would force Apple to up the security game even more as Apple can not had behind the false feel good of the App Store protection.
You seem to be not aware, but Google is already under investigation and facing those same charges. Also, there are other issues that Google is paying.
Microsoft announces changes to Microsoft 365 and Office 365 to address European competition concerns - EU Policy Blog
Last month, the European Commission announced that it had opened a formal investigation regarding Microsoft’s bundling of Microsoft Teams with Microsoft 365 and Office 365 suites for business customers. Today we are announcing proactive changes that we hope will start to address these concerns...
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Microsoft is already complying with the EU. Apple can't hide anymore.
Apple talks about privacy because it suits them. Not for your benefit. ATT is under investigation by France and Italy, because it unfairly advantages Apple. It collects as much information as others, but uses for itself.
No, Apple does not Care about Your Privacy
I read Apple’s real privacy policy and realized that Apple and Apple’s Executives are hypocrites.
Apple is sneaking around its own privacy policy — and will regret it
Apple has a complicated relationship with privacy. It loves to tout its efforts, especially as a differentiator with Google. But actually delivering privacy? That’s a different story.
www.computerworld.com
Then why can't we install custom software on game consoles?
I don’t have an android phone, but Facebook and google have literally billions of users, so you could definitely say it’d help consumers. So opening up services would definitely benefit millions of users. I don’t know why you seem to think otherwise.