The insatiable greed of Apple under Tim Cook is nauseating.
The prices are high, but he’s right. Monthly payments make it easy for people to swallow. If people had to pay in full or pay a subsidy there would be wayyyyy less sales.
The Note 9 was very innovative (though it has its flaws) and the price is maxed out at $1250 — expensive? Totally, but it’s more reasonable
Go talk to your EU representatives about that. I believe Apple started paying $15,000,000,000 this year on fines. With all the fines Apple has been paying them lately and some potentially new fines coming up, you really think Apple will tap into their cash hoard to pay them or make YOU pay them?The world doesn’t only revolve around the U.S., I don’t have a 30$ monthly deal with my carrier nor do I get the iPhone upgrade program.
I would also love to hear his reasoning behind the inflated pricing in Europe. Even if I add a 20% tax on the dollar prices, the difference is noticeable.
Moreover, even though I could buy it I simply won’t. I cannot connect it to a screen and keyboard/mouse and magically have a Mac. It is still a phone with an ok camera (compared to a compact camera) that softens the details way too much.
Agreed. My iPhone 6s Plus was $250 cheaper at launch in 2015 compared to an iPhone Xs Max with the same amount of storage in 2018, and there isn't any reason I can't continue to use it for another year or two.You could do all of that 10 years ago already, when iPhones were generally much cheaper. As far as I can see, there's no mention of the innovation that would justify the recent price increase.
Better bring back the good old iPhone SE!
Sounds like Tim is on a PR tour to try and justify their profit margins...
I've ordered a XS Max but damn, the prices are outa control.
The prices are high, but he’s right. Monthly payments make it easy for people to swallow. If people had to pay in full or pay a subsidy there would be wayyyyy less sales.
Go talk to your EU representatives about that. I believe Apple started paying $15,000,000,000 this year on fines. With all the fines Apple has been paying them lately and some potentially new fines coming up, you really think Apple will tap into their cash hoard to pay them or make YOU pay them?
Yes. Apple needs to have these margins.Sounds like Tim is on a PR tour to try and justify their profit margins...
The way most people pay for these...they do a deal with a carrier and they pay so much per month, so if you look at even the phone that's priced over $1,000, most people pay $30 a month for it
exactly. Thanks.Here is a view of Apple by Seth Godin from his article about three types of companies. One focusing on profit, one focusing on difficulty, and one focusing on important. Guess which one Apple is?
"Apple became the first company to be worth a trillion dollars. They did that by spending five years single-mindedly focusing on doing profitable work. They’ve consistently pushed themselves toward high margin luxury goods and avoided just about everything else. Belying their first two decades, when they focused on breakthrough work that was difficult and perhaps important, nothing they’ve done recently has been either. Tim Cook made a promise to the shareholders and he kept it."
wow... how is someone's comment in this thread stopping you from purchasing an iPhone...? I'll wait for your answer.Then buy that and let people who prefer iPhones spend their money on what they want
Here is a view of Apple by Seth Godin from his article about three types of companies. One focusing on profit, one focusing on difficulty, and one focusing on important. Guess which one Apple is?
"Apple became the first company to be worth a trillion dollars. They did that by spending five years single-mindedly focusing on doing profitable work. They’ve consistently pushed themselves toward high margin luxury goods and avoided just about everything else. Belying their first two decades, when they focused on breakthrough work that was difficult and perhaps important, nothing they’ve done recently has been either. Tim Cook made a promise to the shareholders and he kept it."
Please don't compare a Lamborghini to a mass produced in conditions that make workers want to kill themselves smartphone ever again.Basic economics: Apple priced the phone at what the market will bear. Would it sell at $2000 or $3000? Possibly, but they won't sell in volume. Timmy is a smart man. He gets as gets as many people as possible to spend the most money possible to maintain the best profit possible.
People don't complain that Lamborghini are priced in the stratosphere. The sell at that price. Some even buy just because it is expensive; bragging rights (pissing contest).
Given that less people are on the yearly or every other year upgrade cycle now, I can understand the price and capability of a new highest end iPhone is priced as it is.
Would I like it to be cheaper? Sure. Is it going to be? No. Are there cheaper iphones? Yes, from the Xr down to the now entry level 7.
Related but not the same: my Mother’a old hand-me-down 2007 era MacBook finally gave up the ghost last year. She asked to the price of a cheap MacBook. £899.
Complaining bitterly she went down to PC World and bought a HP stream 11 as ‘it will be good enough for what I need it for’. Cue several weeks of bitter complaining about UI differences from her old Mac, performance, keyboard and trackpad deficiencies.
She bought a new MacBook Air not long after. And she’s now happy that she can do what she wants to do without issues.
TL,DR: if you want the BMW experience, pay the BMW ticket price.
Not to mention that if even the iPhone 7 entry model is too expensive, there’s a healthy second hand market for iPhones (at least in the U.K. via CEX etc)
I wouldn't say bigger screen is the most innovative thing I've seen.Yeah the XS Max is the same as the X huh.
I own a nice BMW and I do not feel as ripped-off as if I pay Apple's price-tag for MacBook Pro's, iPhones or Watches.TL,DR: if you want the BMW experience, pay the BMW ticket price.
The prices are high, but he’s right. Monthly payments make it easy for people to swallow. If people had to pay in full or pay a subsidy there would be wayyyyy less sales.