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No headphone jack, NO SALE!!!! Blah, Blah, Blah!

Time and time again we hear the same thing. If it isn't people complaining about the lack of a headphone jack it was the or the floppy drive or SCSI.

In a few years no one will bat an eye about not having a headphone jack.

there's a few *billion* more headphone jacks and headphones than there ever were of floppies or SCSI drives....
not a wise idea if they really want to go after those developing markets they claim to covet so much.
 
No headphone jack, NO SALE!!!! Blah, Blah, Blah!

Time and time again we hear the same thing. If it isn't people complaining about the lack of a headphone jack or the floppy drive or SCSI.

In a few years no one will bat an eye about not having a headphone jack.
The floppy drive and SCSI were both dead technology which had better replacements at the time. The same cannot be said for the headphone jack. Wired headphones offer better sound than Bluetooth and at least work with all your equipment rather than needing a stupid dongle.
 
Focused on the user experience?

Just try and buy the next season of a TV show on iTunes without cussing Tim and then see if you can say that with a straight face.
 
Well of course he's not gonna say it's gonna flop.

I hope next years iPhone is worth it. *fingers crossed*
 
I love ya Tim, but I still only use Siri about once or twice a month...
I use Siri daily, but I speak very clearly and "she" seems to understand me well and usually tells me what I want or need to know or brings up pertinent web links. I'm pleased with Siri, overall. But I know many on this forum say they have a hard time being understood. My husband does, too. Clear unaccented female voices fare better. Even I tone down or turn off my southern accent with Siri.

However I was shocked when I tried Hey Google on a Note 5 at Best Buy and it made out what I was saying correctly even though my sinusitis was acting up and I garbled my sentence a bit and the environment was noisy. I don't know if that was a fluke or not but I was impressed. Siri never would have understood the sentence I mangled that day.

Apple is still very good in my view, but they do need to focus and polish up all the good things they have because the competition is showing them up more and more in different ways. I think a lot of us here are increasingly voicing the opinion that Apple seems to have lost its focus.

And those antenna lines did somehow manage to do what I thought was impossible and get even odder looking. But that's okay, that weird lump will draw attention away from that. ;)
 
Can you list the Apple products people didn't know they need, why they needed them, and whether you think they still need them?
Sure. The Macintosh. The iPod. The iPhone. The iPad.
How about the products you think people don't need but that you think Apple thinks people want?
Sure. A watch. A pencil. Thinner everything. Dongles hanging off everything I own to make them work with everything else I own.
You made blanket statements without any details, but I assume you have products in mind that fit the two categories.
Examples provided.
 
The only thing I see optimistic about the iPhone 7 is that it will boost iPhone 8 sales, or whatever the next iPhone is going to be called. I have doubts on 7S if it's a completely redesigned phone.
 
No headphone jack, NO SALE!!!! Blah, Blah, Blah!

Time and time again we hear the same thing. If it isn't people complaining about the lack of a headphone jack or the floppy drive or SCSI.

In a few years no one will bat an eye about not having a headphone jack.
Sorry, but this is quite different. The floppy disk had a superior alternative. The headphone jack does not. Bluetooth headphones suck. They need to be charged, they play audio at lower quality, they frequently lose their connection or skip, and they're more expensive.
 
I've moved from a yearly iPhone updater through the 5, to skipping a year to get enough improvements that matter, to a well hopefully the iPhone 8 will do something to make me trade in my 6...

It seems like Apple is just coasting. It's largely that Android is a mess that keeps me from switching at this point.
 
The floppy drive and SCSI were both dead technology which had better replacements at the time. The same cannot be said for the headphone jack. Wired headphones offer better sound than Bluetooth and at least work with all your equipment rather than needing a stupid dongle.

You mention "dead technology" in your first sentence and in the next you mention the analog 3.5mm headphone jack. The 3.5mm analog headphone jack is a "dead technology"
 
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No headphone jack, NO SALE!!!! Blah, Blah, Blah!

Time and time again we hear the same thing. If it isn't people complaining about the lack of a headphone jack or the floppy drive or SCSI.

In a few years no one will bat an eye about not having a headphone jack.

Except floppies were replaced by a common standard, USB/CDROM. The iPhone doesn't have USB connector, so expect overpriced headphones or dongles, it will end just like firewire and TB on the macs (overpriced and a limited selection of headphones).
 
No headphone jack is a "feature"?

At this point it would take some big and unlikely features to want to trade that in. Namely higher resolution for the 4.7" iPhone 7 and/or much better battery life.

If they don't do either of those things I'll pick up a 128 GB 6s before the 7 ships. That will easily last me a couple more years.

The phones are good enough now that I don't exactly need the latest model anymore. Even the lowly 5s is still decent.
 
Except floppies were replaced by a common standard, USB/CDROM. The iPhone doesn't have USB connector, so expect overpriced headphones or dongles, it will end just like firewire and TB on the macs (overpriced and a limited selection of headphones).

You clearly don't remember the backlash of Apple dropping SCSI. Also this move will allow for increased sound quality if the user desires as well as more room in the device for a bigger battery or thinner devices.
 
Sorry Tim but the 6s to 7 isn't like going from the 5 to the 5s, 5s added touch id, dual tone flash, a7 chip, slight improvement to camera to allow slo mo and burst mode.

"I see so many signs that are positive." - Tim Cook.... What? like all the people going ape about ditching the universal standard headphone jack in favour of lighting headphone ?! Yeah real positive that one! His time at Apple is up in my opinion...
 
i really dont understand this baseless optimism about a 10th anniversary iPhone. Outside of the TAM, Apple's rarely done much besides change their homepage for anniversaries.
The optimism comes from the rumors about Apple's 2017 iPhone. You may be right, and Apple will announce this great iPhone ten years after the first one, but not make any big deal about the anniversary. Or maybe they will make a big deal of it (and your expectations will be wrong).

It's the rumors that are exciting. It will be the phone that matters. Not the numerology.
 
No headphone jack, NO SALE!!!! Blah, Blah, Blah!

Time and time again we hear the same thing. If it isn't people complaining about the lack of a headphone jack or the floppy drive or SCSI.

In a few years no one will bat an eye about not having a headphone jack.


Even if that's true, and I'm not sure it is, for those of us investors who want to see lots of phones sold, this is a non-starter. I personally have over $1000 in headphones, and while I use $100 Shures for my daily kickarounds, I don't want to worry about a dongle and the DAC quality. That's totally unnecessary. I don't want headphones with power sources in them; it's yet another thing to charge, another thing to go wrong, and another battery you have to replace.

The beauty of the 3.5mm jack is that the device does not have to be powered. It just works. Now, in order to have "it just works", you'll need a cable adapter. I think that sucks.

I also think it sucks you can't charge in-line unless you have an even bigger dongle.

We could also have an external screen and an even thinner phone...
 
Even if that's true, and I'm not sure it is, for those of us investors who want to see lots of phones sold, this is a non-starter. I personally have over $1000 in headphones, and while I use $100 Shures for my daily kickarounds, I don't want to worry about a dongle and the DAC quality. That's totally unnecessary. I don't want headphones with power sources in them; it's yet another thing to charge, another thing to go wrong, and another battery you have to replace.

How good is the DAC/Audio playback hardware in the iPhone what happens if you want a better hardware, wait for a new phone and hope it is better? This gives the user more choices from better audio to options like surround sound.
 
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