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I think it's fair to say Steve Jobs said similar things and we gave him almost unanimous praise, but with Tim Cook we just don't care or are critical and picking faults.

Tim Cook simply lacks the mojo that Steve had. He's like the accountant you pay to take care of all the boring stuff.
 
Basically, my relationship with Apple is all riding on the MacBooks to be honest.

You're not alone. If the Macbook Pro is a disappointment -- I suspect it will be -- Apple's ecosystem is toast. I've already ditched all my other Apple devices (almost -- waiting on Nexus) and I'm this close to kissing the MBP goodbye as well.

As much as I hate Microsoft, Windows 10 is rock solid and you have inifinite options for hardware configuration. Apple just isn't compelling anymore. Period.
 
I've moved from a yearly iPhone updater through the 5, to skipping a year to get enough improvements that matter, to a well hopefully the iPhone 8 will do something to make me trade in my 6...

It seems like Apple is just coasting. It's largely that Android is a mess that keeps me from switching at this point.

Yep, there's that. Switching to something worse isn't a great option. Apple still offers the best experience across the board.
 
Don't forget the car. We need a C:apple:R.


Yeah, no ... it'll likely be 2037 before Apple may come up with something to replace my 2016 Cayenne S.
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Apple still offers the best experience across the board.


I disagree. The ecosystem started going on a steep decline, for me at least, when they made the decision to no longer offer 17" MBPs and, the day they remove the DRM from iBooks, will be the day I can start to look elsewhere.
 
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It looks all right to me. I think if they wanted to make a bigger splash, they should put a duel lense camera in it. I don't know if I will upgrade, I'm thinking no right now given I have the 6S 64GB space gray. But with a duel lense, maybe. I'm looking to start taking more pictures.
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Yeah, no ... it'll likely be 2037 before Apple may come up with something to replace my 2016 Cayenne S.
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Lol! In 2037 they might launch an Apple car with cutting edge new technology - dual climate control
 
"As the iPhone becomes more and more your assistant, you're not going to leave without it"

My experience is the exact opposite. With each new iteration of iOS, I use the iPhone less and less because it's such a PIA to use. I stopped using the Music app altogether, and I frequently leave the iPhone at home or in the car because it's too unwieldy to carry around. Honestly, I just hate using the damn thing.

Tim Cook needs to wake the f up.
 
You're not alone. If the Macbook Pro is a disappointment -- I suspect it will be -- Apple's ecosystem is toast. I've already ditched all my other Apple devices (almost -- waiting on Nexus) and I'm this close to kissing the MBP goodbye as well.

As much as I hate Microsoft, Windows 10 is rock solid and you have inifinite options for hardware configuration. Apple just isn't compelling anymore. Period.

My wife, not really into macs, recently bought an xps 15. It's been problems for a week now. Dead pixels, scratchy speaker, laggy touchpad, and weird issues with windows shrinking to quarter of the screen. Exchanged it. Same deal except the speakers seem better.

Nothing against windows 10 besides it doesn't work great with high res screens, still can't support a great touchpad, and needs reinstalled each year. The xps 15's screen is a beauty though.

The surface book looked ok but dual core and shaky hinge. Don't need gaming laptops. The rest of them suck. Not sure why dell chose alienware 13 to for its OLED screen debut. That might've been interesting for the xps 13.

So I talked her into waiting for the macbook pro in Oct after installing parallels on her older 13 MBP.

It's not so much Apple isn't compelling, it's just that the competition is even less compelling. That's not to say I don't use windows. I need windows for work programs. I was strictly a windows user since it saw light. I attended MS events, certified in Office from day one, know excel like the back of my hand, etc. I just prefer macOS these days.
 
Not excited about this year's iPhone but c'mon people with this non-sense with the headphone's. I've been using Bluetooth headphones since the 3GS. Perfect for the gym, great sound quality (better than the awful earbuds), a full charge lasts at least 12 hours, and takes ~30 minutes to charge. Also have a pair of Bang & Olufsen H8's, expensive but you can get great quality Bluetooth headsets for less $80. My gym ones cost $125 back in 2011 and they're still working perfectly.

It's the same as streaming bluetooth audio in your car. My Audi RS5 has the Bang & Olufsen system that sounds no different than plugging it in. For those with wired headsets, the phone's will ship with a DAC. No one outside of Apple knows what it will look like, it could be small and and easy to use. My advice: just get a pair of bluetooth headsets and cut the cord. Sometimes I wonder if people complain for the sake of it.
 
So many people trashing on Apple lol. Just wait until sales figures are out for the 7 and it becomes the best selling iPhone to date. I think Apple knows exactly what they're doing.
 
more room in the device for a bigger battery or thinner devices.

Trouble is:

1) the 6S battery was smaller than the battery in the 6. So even if Apple say that the battery in the 7 is bigger than the 6S, chances are its just the same battery from the 6 with a more power efficient A10 chip which will give improved battery/usage times.

2) All the leaks and rumours are pointing to Apple dropping the headphone jack but keeping the same dimensions as the 6 and 6S so to the argument about making phones thinner without a headphone jack is moot. And side note - you can still waterproof a phone with a headphone jack so this is also not a valid reason for its removal.
 
Trouble is:

1) the 6S battery was smaller than the battery in the 6. So even if Apple say that the battery in the 7 is bigger than the 6S, chances are its just the same battery from the 6 with a more power efficient A10 chip which will give improved battery/usage times.

2) All the leaks and rumours are pointing to Apple dropping the headphone jack but keeping the same dimensions as the 6 and 6S so to the argument about making phones thinner without a headphone jack is moot. And side note - you can still waterproof a phone with a headphone jack so this is also not a valid reason for its removal.

1) We will have to wait and see.

2) Other than it is a dead technology, you will be able to get better sound out of the new design.
 
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Optimistic? LOL...
I recall he said Apple had some incredible products down the pipeline. Double LOL!


"We've got great innovation in the pipeline. New iPhones that will incentivize you and other people that have iPhones today to upgrade to new iPhones."

Then what did Apple do? Incentivized people by upgrading iOS 10 iMessage with 3X size Emoji and predictive to boot.
 
1) We will have to wait and see.

2) Other than it is a dead technology, you will be able to get better sound out of the new design.

Ok i'll agree that on the battery front it's a wait and see issue but the sound quality over convince is a fabricated argument to try and justify the removal of the headphone jack. If you or I wanted better quality sound from our phones we would be using the lightning port with an external DAC already, which is perfectly do-able, no one is stopping you from doing so. But to remove the headphone jack from devices that people will inevitably have to upgrade to once Apple cuts iOS support for older phones, will leave millions of people with iTunes libraries full of content they can't use unless they conform to Apples lighting or dongle set up which is pretty poor.
 
So many people trashing on Apple lol. Just wait until sales figures are out for the 7 and it becomes the best selling iPhone to date. I think Apple knows exactly what they're doing.

They do and they always have. Apple has a strong following and then their are those who deliberately spew hate and blasphemy against them. I'm a believer in Apple and will always be.
 
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