Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
I'd be very surprised if any smart watch managed to change the way people live their lives. Or is he on about how long people have to be near a power outlet?
 
Tim Cook: Our Objective With Apple Watch Is to Change the Way People Live Their Lives

This has been Apple's strategy all along. While I think it will have a great interest to people, I'm not sure this will be as revolutionary as the iPhone, iPod, or even iPad.

It has some great potential, but also some great drawbacks, including a battery that will not last for the entire day.
 
It has some great potential, but also some great drawbacks, including a battery that will not last for the entire day.

Again with this?

I think rumours indicated it would last 20 hours? Technically less than a 24 hour day, but still: If you put it on at 4am, it won't need charging until midnight.

----------

Funny thing is, if you look at this thread almost 14 years ago

https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/apples-new-thing-ipod.500/

It's almost the same with todays comment for the apple watch.

Ha! This is brilliant.

The best comment there has to be: "I'd call it the Cube 2.0 as it wont sell, and be killed off in a short time...and it's not really functional."

Or: "All that hype for an MP3 player? Break-thru digital device? The Reality Distiortion Field™ is starting to warp Steve's mind if he thinks for one second that this thing is gonna take off."
 
Battery life of anything under a week is still a joke for a watch.

They should have built a monochrome e-ink version with a couple of months battery life.

My e-ink watch has been going for about 3 years now on the same battery and always-on display.
 
Finally someone who sees it the same as me. Considering people spend thousands on Rolex watches, spending $349 - $1000 is not a big ask, especially considering it can track your fitness, the customisation and the apps it will likely use, not to mention how great it looks.

IT Can track alright. For couple hours. Then you need to charge it. If you can't trust the device to last you at least one full day of 24 hours of use its a gimmick. And when I say use I don't mean sitting on a wrist telling time and doing nothing else.
 
IT Can track alright. For couple hours. Then you need to charge it. If you can't trust the device to last you at least one full day of 24 hours of use its a gimmick. And when I say use I don't mean sitting on a wrist telling time and doing nothing else.

At the moment the battery life is just a rumour, but even if true, the Watch will not be used every second of every day. We don't walk around constantly looking at our watches. I don't mind charging at night time it's when i charge my phone anyway, i don't need my devices when i'm asleep. Let's just see what :apple: have for us first, after all there are a few things that are still secret.
 
Again with this?

I think rumours indicated it would last 20 hours? Technically less than a 24 hour day, but still: If you put it on at 4am, it won't need charging until midnight

19 hours is what Apple states, which typically in the past when a manufacturer gives battery estimates is wildly optimistic. You may have an issue with my statement but yet, its a fair criticism.
 
Apple is a normal consumer mass, and I mean MASS market brand.

Rolex is not.

You cannot use one to compare the other.

That's like saying, well, I don't think Fords new car is dear, hey people spend over $200,000 on a Lamborghini, and the ford can carry 2 more people,

Thats the point. People regularly spend hundreds of dollars on less. Apple watch isnt even close to being rolex expensive.
 
I'm not sure being able to listen to music while on-the-go qualifies as "changing the way people live their life". So to me, mp3 did not really change that much. Don't get me wrong, I love it. It changed the way I listen to music and eventually the way I buy it, but not much more. The smartphone and tablet computers changed the way I use email, calendar and pretty much everything reagrding internet, but still it was over a very long period of time, combining multiple device categories from a number of vendors, a complete overhaul of software infrastructure and evolution of my and other people's mindset. It's not about a single device, it never is. It's very difficult to see how this watch would be more important than the smartphone, and even the smartphone still is not a device that every person in the world absolutely needs in order to live.
Huge words from Mr Cook.
 
I dont care. All I know if it's got the :apple: stamped on it then I will want to/probably buy one. :D

----------

I actually think it can change things I do with technology fundamentally. The sitting-down-too-much-thing is a great example of how this watch could have an impact on your health.

Also, I don't think the high prices of this first version are going to be a problem for people. They will drop significantly in value once it goes to the second-hand market, because it will undoubtedly have scuffs on it. That way everyone can at least try one out for compelling prices and maybe buy a new one when the next comes out.

What will be interesting is the upgrade-cycle of both Apple and the customers. A new watch every year or every two years doesn't seem likely.

Apple doesnt expect or necessarily want you upgrading all devices every year.
 
Yep... you can substitute any talk about iPods and MP3 players in that thread with Apple Watch.


revolutionary?

There are already two products similar to this on the market. The Nomad Jukebox and the Archos Jukebox which can come with a 20 gig HD. The iPod is obviously alot cooler and has firewire, but it is far from revolutionary. I for one am disappointed and think that apple is making a mistake by trying to get into this market.


Highlights:

"There are already similar products on the market"
"This is far from revolutionary"
"Apple is making a mistake by entering this market"

Then the iPod went on to dominate the MP3 player market.
4 years later with a vastly improved product . Yes I do see that happening for the apple watch as well.
 
Thats the point. People regularly spend hundreds of dollars on less. Apple watch isnt even close to being rolex expensive.

Some people do, I'll be the first to admit, I'm not the most knowledgeable in terms of watch demographics. Yet I do think the apple watch is very expensive - too much for my budget. Watches today are more of a fashion statement then a time keeping device.

We'll have to wait and see how the consumers react to the watch, and whether its viewed as more then a fashion statement or a product with a fruit logo.

----------

Actually Apple haven't made any official claims for the battery life.

The 19 hours rumour came from an insider who spoke to 9to5Mac.

True, but I think the 19 hours rumor is fairly solid, but I'll grant you that its not apple's official statement.

My MS band watch had a stated battery life of 2 days, it lasts 1/2 that. Same with my fitbit Surge. Lasts half as long, time will tell about the apple watch.
 
If it were Steve, most of the comments would be praise and anticipation about how we can't wait to buy an Apple Watch.

You need to look back in time at every major Apple innovation of the last 14 years. People always react negatively no matter what. If Apple listened to that, they would've gone out of business by now.
 
19 hours is what Apple states, which typically in the past when a manufacturer gives battery estimates is wildly optimistic. You may have an issue with my statement but yet, its a fair criticism.

The thing is until it's actually tested in real world use, or even until Apple actually announce a battery life more than "you'll wind up charing it daily" we don't know. So to say it has a "massive drawback" because it won't last all day is pessimistic, or at the very least, premature.

If the rumours are 19 hour battery life, but really it's 15, that still takes you from a 6am start to 9pm.
 
Yes, however, IMO, Tim is starting to believe otherwise. I'm not saying it's bad for Apple. While Tesla and Apple actively poach each other, IMO it's the innovative types Apple is loosing. Tim is frustrated over loosing this type of employee to Musk. Musk is enamored with SJ. Tim feels he needs to prove he can keep this talent at Apple as SJ did.

This is simply my opinion. Apple is in a fluid state. It's core is changing. All companies go through a process from start up onward. Tim is perfect for where Apple is today.

I think loosing tomorrows talent to the likes of Musk gets under his skin in a big way. :apple:
Hilarious. These are guys making tens of millions a year running companies doing billions of dollars in business, one of which is the largest and most profitable company ** in the world. ** You are a guy with time to comment on macrumors. But you stand in dismissive judgment of Cook's talent.

I've been writing code on and for Apple machines since 1982, and a shareholder since 1997. Tim Cook is a brilliant CEO and every bit as skilled as Musk or Jobs in a less flashy way. Apple stock put my kids through college and it's done better under Cook than under Jobs. They make the world's best phones and computers. They are the world's best known brand.
All the know it all snark here about what Cook or Apple should do or how dumb they are or whatever is laughable. The watch will be a giant hit. It will sell tens of millions in v.1. Apple does not make massve marketing errors.
 
FaceTime? More like NoseTime as if you used it as a camera the person on the other end would likely be looking up your nose. Besides, to hold it up in the air on your arm to face time would get tiring. Not to mention look a bit odd.

3G yes because you wouldn't have to hold your wrist up to your face to talk.

All those features aren't coming with Gen 1. Apple will piece mail them to us depending upon how fast Samsung and various other Android vendors can copy the features.
 
Apple’s desperate for lightning to strike twice in the way of a new income stream. At least Tim Cook is, in order to squeeze out from under Steve’s shadow. Though I think the Apple watch is merely a trinket of the bourgeois with money to burn, eventually to be left in the drawer.
 
People (myself among them) gladly paid $399 for an MP3 player in 2001. Why wouldn't they spend less than that for something that does a lot more today?

Because it's not 2001 anymore. A 32" 720p LCD TV back then was between $1000 to $1500. And all you have to do today is pull out your phone; the watch is just a repeater that relies on the phone you already have.
I love my LG G watch only because it was $79 with a $50 Google play credit. It sucks at the retail price of $229. Not only does the price of the Apple watch stinks but also the interface is confusing and not clean. I was impressed initially but I went limp after the announcement.
 
That was a speedy reversal!

I was corrected, I thought it was what Apple announced. Its not a reversal, but a correction.

Still, I stand by my words, 19 hours at best is inadequate imo
 
I'll preface this by saying that I think the Apple watch will sell (well).

However - to use past examples like the iPhone and iPod as indicators isn't truly legitimate.

The past doesn't equal the future (or present.)
 
If the rumours are 19 hour battery life, but really it's 15, that still takes you from a 6am start to 9pm.

So, I get up at 6, go to work, use my watch, and then decide to go out to the movies, and a dinner. The watch dies at 9:00pm.

Doesn't seem too good, not for a 400 or 500 dollar watch.

I don't understand how so many people accept such a short life span on a very expensive product. Yes, so far its only rumors, but its on topic, because it hard to have a life changing product when said product may not last the entire day.
 
e; the watch is just a repeater that relies on the phone you already have.
I love my LG G watch only because it was $79 with a $50 Google play credit. It sucks at the retail price of $229. Not only does the price of the Apple watch stinks but also the interface is confusing and not clean. I was impressed initially but I went limp after the announcement.

I missed out on the $50 credit - but I found it on Groupon for $79. At that price it was worth checking out. I happen to like the LG G watch a lot as an upgrade (in some respects) to my Pebble. I wouldn't say it "sucks" at $229 - but at that price, I personally would never have bought it.

Ultimately I believe that those that buy the watch (for the most part) will find great use, or invent ways to use it as part of a natural reaction (cognitive dissonance).
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.