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The rumored battery life is too low even for a gen 1 product. I have no doubt that Apple will sell a lot of them, but there will probably be complaints when people realize that it has to be charged every day.

I know no one else is doing any better on the battery life, but it seems like a computer this small isn't feasible without significant drawbacks right now.

Personally, I'm interested in it, but I don't think I can bring myself to pay $349 for it until it can get at least 3 or 4 days on a charge (with sleep tracking) or can charge wirelessly while on my wrist.
It is going to be interesting to see the comments on here after people get their hands on the watch. Think about what happens when you acquire a new device you spend every minute on it learning about its features and trying different things and generally playing. When you discover the battery is dead after 2.5 hours of constant use some might start having buyers remorse.
 
Not true and that's not what Tim Cook was saying. It will change the way you live, it's not something you can't live without. You've been surviving up to now.


True… However, I do believe I will survive or "live" longer by monitoring my blood sugar more effectively than I have been.
 
Change the way people live their lives at $349 STARTING price? That's a good top of the line price, but starting price, entry level? Not on your rich life sir.

I don't actually believe that $349 is a big ask for this device. People routinely pay thousands of dollars for watches that do nothing but tell time, and not even that accurately. Even fashion watches routinely cost hundreds of dollars.

This is basically a computer with retina display on your wrist, so the fact it is only $349 is amazing.

I'll be happy to pay more for the stainless steel model.
 
I really hope they still have some surprises up their sleeves. The use cases he mentioned aren't novel at all.

I agree that we have all "thought about" these use cases, but applying them to your real life is the key. Take it out of the brainspace realm and put it to reality. Apple Watch will (possibly) make it easier and more likely for you to apply these supposed boring and non novel use cases. That's what I think.

For example, you may have heard of the "Couch to 5K program" - well, there are probably a dozen apps out there that help a person to use the "couch to 5K program". I had heard about it and poo-poo'd the program as something that was "obvious". Well, one day I started doing the couch to 5K program and in hindsight I can say that it changed my life. I never realized I could run, and this simple program on an iPhone made it happen. There is a simple app for "100 sit-ups" etc etc. If you apply those, they work too.

Having an Apple Watch is different than thinking about what you can do with a Raspberry Pi and Arduino in our worlds of imagination - Apple watch will be off the shelf and onto your wrist easy to implement. The best tech is the tech that disappears
 
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So, Tim Cook's vision of the future is to make humans even more useless and dumb than we already are, making us dependent on machines to guide our lives.

Didn't I see this in the latter half of Wall-E?
 
Well he has to be optimistic I guess as he's not a salesman. But you never know, maybe it will change peoples lives..... But 19 hours battery life won't!

And yet millions of people own smartphones, tablets and laptops that don't get 19 hours battery life. Somehow we're all surviving.
 
True… However, I do believe I will survive or "live" longer by monitoring my blood sugar more effectively than I have been.

My sister has gestational diabetes, and monitors her blood sugar two hours after eating (most of the time). My brother, who is a physician, says that such monitoring not very useful unless the patient is consistently compliant, and most patients are not. So I agree with you that the Apple watch, combined with a small implant, could lead to better control of diabetes for people who suffer from it.
 
Change the way people live their lives at $349 STARTING price? That's a good top of the line price, but starting price, entry level? Not on your rich life sir.

Nah, it's not going to change anything for me. It's not that much effort to pull my phone out of my pocket if I need to do "smart" tasks. I mean, this is at the end of the day, an accessory to the iPhone. It can't stand alone even. Not only that, if it requires bluetooth connectivity or anything like that, it will be an accessory that just depletes the battery faster. And I'm not even about to try typing on my wrist, or reading extensive work emails on it.

Nice novelty for people who have the definition of disposable/unwanted income, but this isn't the "iPod" of today. At best this is the iPod Hi-Fi of today.

Edit: And "Can't live without"? That's a bit strong. I mean, I love my iPhone 6 Plus. Thoroughly enjoy it, as well as my iPad Mini 3 and my MacBook Pro, and all my past Apple devices. But I could certainly live without it. And it's far more useful than the watch will be. Hyping something too much can actually be damaging too. It builds excitement in ignorant folks who will be let down when they realize it's not only something they could live without, but also something that adds little if anything to the Apple experience they already had.

You currently own an iPhone 6 plus, an iPad Mini 3 and a MBP (also acknowledging all of your past Apple devices) and somehow manage to complain about the $349 entry level price of the Watch? Weird.

All I know is the Watch is going to sell like crazy. What it can and can not do out of the box is 100% irrelevant. All Apple product launches come with a built-in audience (in the tens of millions) ready to pounce on the latest, greatest Apple product. Apple knows this. Apple likes this. Apple uses this (as they should). I continue to grin at all the pre launch nay sayers who seem to forget every Apple product launch since the iPod - where it is widely predicted that [insert product name here] will be huge flop, that no one wants it, that I have no use for it. Yet every time, records are shattered and the before mentioned nay sayers all fall right in line with the rest of us. It's pretty comical. The success of the Watch will be no different than any past launch: sold out preorders followed by several months of backorders and eventual quarterly earnings that impress Wall Street.
Just... Watch...
 
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And yet millions of people own smartphones, tablets and laptops that don't get 19 hours battery life. Somehow we're all surviving.

And just how many of those millions own watches that last several months, years, forever on batterys or automatic movements then. Replace your watch with a device that mimcs your smartphone and lasts less then a day.

Smartwatches are going backwards in technology, not forwards.
 
My sister has gestational diabetes, and monitors her blood sugar two hours after eating (most of the time). My brother, who is a physician, says that such monitoring not very useful unless the patient is consistently compliant, and most patients are not. So I agree with you that the Apple watch, combined with a small implant, could lead to better control of diabetes for people who suffer from it.

There is equipemnt already for this. You don't need the iWatch. Unless the small implant will now have a bluetooth transmitter in it, you are still going to need the rest of the equipment that patients already carry.
 
Oh good. Because there aren't enough people trying to tell me to change the way I live my life.
 
I would argue that the first iPod worth getting was the third or fourth generation. Until then, they were expensive and too proprietary to be worthwhile.

I would also argue the same holds true for most Apple hardware - they really get it right around the 3rd or 4th revision. Think 4th gen iPod nano, iPhone 4, iPad Air, 2011 Macbook Air, iMac G5, etc.

I don't expect this will be different with the Apple Watch.
 
Change the way people live their lives at $349 STARTING price? That's a good top of the line price, but starting price, entry level? Not on your rich life sir.

You must have forgotten the prices that the iPhone started out. Anyway, *if* it in fact does turn out to be the game changer that Cook is suggesting then 350+ is not that big a deal.
 
I love my 6+ but I find it too bulky to run with. I can see spending $350+ for the Apple watch if it could track my run without carrying the 6+ along too, but I'm not reading anything about addressing this issue.

GPS is out of the question for the foreseeable future due to its power consumption.

But I wonder: what about dead reckoning based on all the motion sensors it has? That is, it would calculate where you whet and how fast based on your movements. If your phone was nearby when you started your run it would all be relative to your starting position, so could even map your progress (or without a starting point it would still plot your relative progress, speed and distance).

I have no idea if that could possibly be accurate enough to be useful.

More likely solution: someone creates a small GPS unit that you put in your pocket that is controlled by the watch and feeds it data via bluetooth. Of course, by that time you migh as well buy a different watch that does include GPS.
 
A $349-$1000 watch that lets you see things on the iPhone in your pocket changes everything. Plus, you can do this for like 2-4 hours a day before needing a charge.The other 20 hours or so you'll be forced to reach again into your pockets to stare at a huge 1080p screen. It will be like living in the dark ages.
 
I think it will be an excellent accessory and probably handy as afar as notifications go, but I don't think it will change the way people live like the iPhone or (to a lesser extent) the iPad did.
 
And just how many of those millions own watches that last several months, years, forever on batterys or automatic movements then. Replace your watch with a device that mimcs your smartphone and lasts less then a day.

Smartwatches are going backwards in technology, not forwards.

Yeah and all those things are doing is telling you the time. If all Watch did was tell time it's battery would last months/years too.
 
And just how many of those millions own watches that last several months, years, forever on batterys or automatic movements then. Replace your watch with a device that mimcs your smartphone and lasts less then a day.

Smartwatches are going backwards in technology, not forwards.

If you want to wear a device in your wrist just to tell time (and a few other simple function) then, yes, there are much better devices for that than an Apple Watch, and there have been for a long time.

Obviously the Apple Watch is for something else.
 
So, it will be good for your health to prevent sitting too long but kill you with radiation.
hmmmmmm
 
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