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Tim Cook: Our Objective With Apple Watch Is to Change the Way People Live Their Lives
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People forget it costs apple and estimated $200-$250 to build an iPhone 6. With that bit of info you have to assume it costs anywhere from $100-$200 to build the Watch.
I don't think $350 is out of line for cutting edge technology.
I don't think $350 is out of line for cutting edge technology.
It's definitely not unobtrusive. Have you read the way it's going to do it? There's a third party interface that'll wrap around your abdomen and transmit to the watch and phone. I'd hardly call that unobtrusive. And without an actual blood specimen, it'll be a novelty feature, not something someone should rely on for a life-threatening condition.
His choice of words and the iPod comparison are interesting.
I wonder.
iPad Sales are getting to a stalling point, or will do, as the market fills up and there is less difference year on year with the previous model so it's going to get hard and harder to keep people upgrading so much.
Likewise with the iPhone, we had a BIG rush as Apple finally made a large screen, but again, it's going to get harder and harder over the years to expect a yearly upgrade, moreso now with better and better cheap phones coming onto the market.
Apple Obviously know this, and I guess they had been thinking long and hard what can they do to kickstart another product off on ground level then have another perhaps decade of riding the upgrade wave of a fresh product.
Perhaps Apple see this as the new iPod, and are hoping the watch IS going to be the same again. Another iPod moment as other products are now getting too mature to expect fast year on year upgrades.
If this is the case then I'm suspect those who feel Apple won't upgrade the watch much, or it will be a very very slow upgrade cycle may be in for a shock.
I wonder.
iPad Sales are getting to a stalling point, or will do, as the market fills up and there is less difference year on year with the previous model so it's going to get hard and harder to keep people upgrading so much.
Likewise with the iPhone, we had a BIG rush as Apple finally made a large screen, but again, it's going to get harder and harder over the years to expect a yearly upgrade, moreso now with better and better cheap phones coming onto the market.
Apple Obviously know this, and I guess they had been thinking long and hard what can they do to kickstart another product off on ground level then have another perhaps decade of riding the upgrade wave of a fresh product.
Perhaps Apple see this as the new iPod, and are hoping the watch IS going to be the same again. Another iPod moment as other products are now getting too mature to expect fast year on year upgrades.
If this is the case then I'm suspect those who feel Apple won't upgrade the watch much, or it will be a very very slow upgrade cycle may be in for a shock.
I am an Apple Fanboy, but you are drinking the kool-aid with that comment!
Everything they've revealed about Apple Watch's capability can already be done on a Samsung Gear or a Motorola Smartwatch... sure it's Apple-Esque cool, but not groundbreaking.
Its a bold goal, not just a statement. Threads like these make me want to link to the thread about the iPod being introduced, where apple was mocked. Excited to see what this all turns into.
What they are also saying that they want people to buy new watches at least once in two years and to make their pockets deeper. Pardon me, I honestly don't like any of the apple products except the iPhone. Now the Silicon Valley has adopted the Mac as the cool de'facto and I do one the Macbook pro myself, I can't be happier running windows 7 on it.
Regarding the battery life..
How long are you expecting to be using it every day? Holding your arm up to look at whatever is on the display for an extended amount of time will cause fatigue. It is intended for quick glances at information and some basic interactions. Also, the display is small enough that most would not want to be doing anything serious with it considering there is an iPhone in their pocket or bag that is much easier on the eyes to complete tasks. Most 3rd party apps will likely act as advanced notifications or remotes that are complementary to the iPhone app.
Sleep tracking is also likely to come in the near future. Considering how small the battery is, it will likely be able to be fully charged between 30mins to 1hr. So you can charge it while having breakfast or on a lunch break and enjoy using it for the rest of the day and night.
The beauty of
Watch is that it takes something that people used to only use for time and fashion then goes a huge step further by providing more relevant info to the user, allowing the user to keep in touch with others in new and fun ways, and get the user to be more active and health-conscious. I for one can't wait for April!
How long are you expecting to be using it every day? Holding your arm up to look at whatever is on the display for an extended amount of time will cause fatigue. It is intended for quick glances at information and some basic interactions. Also, the display is small enough that most would not want to be doing anything serious with it considering there is an iPhone in their pocket or bag that is much easier on the eyes to complete tasks. Most 3rd party apps will likely act as advanced notifications or remotes that are complementary to the iPhone app.
Sleep tracking is also likely to come in the near future. Considering how small the battery is, it will likely be able to be fully charged between 30mins to 1hr. So you can charge it while having breakfast or on a lunch break and enjoy using it for the rest of the day and night.
The beauty of
Watch is that it takes something that people used to only use for time and fashion then goes a huge step further by providing more relevant info to the user, allowing the user to keep in touch with others in new and fun ways, and get the user to be more active and health-conscious. I for one can't wait for April!My understanding is that you in fact wont always need to have the iPhone near you. It will have onboard storage for music and stuff. I would expect that the tracking can be captured by the apple watch and sent to the iPhone when in contact.
http://mac.softpedia.com/blog/Apple-Watch-Will-Have-On-Board-Storage-Wi-Fi-469943.shtml
Apple is a normal consumer mass, and I mean MASS market brand.
Rolex is not.
You cannot use one to compare the other.
That's like saying, well, I don't think Fords new car is dear, hey people spend over $200,000 on a Lamborghini, and the ford can carry 2 more people,
Well, tell the time, offer multiple world time zones, offer multiple alarms, timers, split time calibrated chronographs, tell the temperature, tide movements, have compasses built in, back lights, store addresses and phone numbers, have calculators, have barometers and altimeters, set the time themselves via radio links to atomic clocks, take your pulse.
Watches do a hell of a lot more than 'tell time' and still manage to last a hell of a lot longer than '19 hours'!
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Actually considering the rumoured price for the solid gold Apple Watch then yes you CAN compare it to Rolex etc.
Do you think the iPod would of been so great if the songs were stored on an Apple MacBook which you needed to carry with you, as the music was streamed from the MacBook to the iPod ?
The iPod being in effect a MacBook accessory that did a few bits on it's own, but needed the MacBook to be fully functional.
The iPod was a great stand alone new product in it's own right.
the Apple watch won't be for some time. Perhaps another 2 years?
I have said, again and again, in every Watch thread...
This is what I think how Apple would like to achieve with their first watch. I think, rather than emphasize on how many things it could do, Apple would promote it as, how can you live without it.
Imagine how easy it is to: communicate with a touch, quick reassurance you are alright to your loved one, pay something, a glance of what's important...
These things may sound ordinary and so mundane (we Tech people always wanting something futuristic, but this aint it). However, once a person 'used to' do certain things, it becomes habit, and eventually become something that you can't live without.
That's how I foresee the first gen of Apple Watch is. It's just my 2c though, I might be wrong.
I keep seeing this, and I don't buy it as a reason the Watch will fail. If it's worth having the information instantly accessible on your wrist, it doesn't matter that it's beamed from your phone.
For those people who want the Watch to replace their phone completely, it's simply not possible yet, but that's something time will solve.
If it did, but the battery life was bad, I'm sure someone would say "I already have GPS in my iPhone, can't it just use that to save power?"
Also, the Watch does more than put iPhone content on your wrist. You can view it as an accessory for the iPhone, but don't let that make you forget it extends what your phone can do.
Funny how Cook mentions how people can't live without a MP3 player after he killed off the classic ipod and how and Apple are in the process of forcing streaming on everyone.
This is a bad analogy. The iPod was not a stand alone product in it's own right. The ripping, managing and syncing of music required another device: A Windows PC or a Mac.
And at first, it wouldn't even work with Windows: "its price and Mac-only compatibility caused sales to be relatively slow until 2004" - Wikipedia.
The idea of the iPod was that it was ultra-portable. The Watch offloads a lot of the work to save battery life, but to a device you already carry around anyway.
Yeah. I wear a Omega Planet Ocean. Even though it is COSC certified, it cannot come close to the accuracy of an Apple Watch.
Plus I travel a lot for work and it would be awesome to have that screen I've seen in the demos that shows me the time where I am now and the time back at home.
So all that functionality for 10% of what my current watch costs. Sign me up!
Accuracy of an Apple Watch?
How Accurate is that may I ask?
You mean it's accurate as it connects to the iPhone which then gets it's time off the Internet, and feeds that back to the watch to stop the watch being wrong?
That kind of accurate?
I'm genuinely interested, no joking aside, on this watch accuracy thing. I hope someone takes the watch, when it's 100% accurate and runs one of a month, charging it every day, and not letting is get near to any iPhone, and seeing in a totally genuine, unbiased, and honest way exactly how accurate it's time keeping is as a device, esp as Apple have made great play about it's accuracy.
If it's amazingly spot on after a month of no connections to anything external, than I will take my hat off to it, and be honestly and genuinely VERY impressed.
If it relies totally and utterly on the iPhone and Internet to keep it accurate then it's no more accurate than a $10 radio signal clock from Wallmart
Poor Tim? Really? I mean, reeeeeally?!
After earning $9.2m last year and having $378m of share options sitting there, I think he's just fine.
Quite the opposite, actually. The Apple Watch encourages people to be more active, not less.
That part of Wall-E depicts useless, sloth humans hovering around with screens in front of their faces. If anything, you should apply that comment to the iPad, not the Apple Watch. (But you wouldn't, would you, because the iPad has been a huge success)
Seriously, some of these comments will be immortalized in five years when the Apple Watch is a huge success, similar to the way we now mock comments about "poor battery life" and "no keyboard?!" and "I'm not going to play games on a tiny screen!" that were made about the iPhone in 2007.