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Tim Cook had a chance to change my life by releasing a nice Mac Mini update last year, but instead he would rather focus on a watch. So my life remains the same. :rolleyes::confused:
 
The smartphone already changed my life, I got rid of watches, along with the land-line, long ago, and see the negative impacts of being tethered all the time. No thanks, looks regressive to me, like a ball and chain.
 
Tim's watch must have a different version of Siri than any iDevices in the wild. All Siri does is frustrate me.
 
Accuracy of an Apple Watch?
How Accurate is that may I ask?

You mean it's accurate as it connects to the iPhone which then gets it's time off the Internet, and feeds that back to the watch to stop the watch being wrong?

That kind of accurate?

I'm genuinely interested, no joking aside, on this watch accuracy thing. I hope someone takes the watch, when it's 100% accurate and runs one of a month, charging it every day, and not letting is get near to any iPhone, and seeing in a totally genuine, unbiased, and honest way exactly how accurate it's time keeping is as a device, esp as Apple have made great play about it's accuracy.

If it's amazingly spot on after a month of no connections to anything external, than I will take my hat off to it, and be honestly and genuinely VERY impressed.

If it relies totally and utterly on the iPhone and Internet to keep it accurate then it's no more accurate than a $10 radio signal clock from Wallmart

If it can triangulate from wifi signals then it will be very accurate consistently. If it can seamlessly sync with time from the iPhone it is in fact more accurate than a non gps connected watch.
 
Did Tim just say the watch would remind me to stand after I've been sitting for too long?
 
When the iPhone was announced, I couldn't justify owning one. I've now had four, and they changed parts of my life.

When the iPad was announced, I couldn't justify owning one. I've now had two, and they've changed parts of my life.

When the Apple Watch was announced, I couldn't justify owning one.
 
Change the way people live their lives at $349 STARTING price? That's a good top of the line price, but starting price, entry level? Not on your rich life sir.

Nah, it's not going to change anything for me. It's not that much effort to pull my phone out of my pocket if I need to do "smart" tasks. I mean, this is at the end of the day, an accessory to the iPhone. It can't stand alone even. Not only that, if it requires bluetooth connectivity or anything like that, it will be an accessory that just depletes the battery faster. And I'm not even about to try typing on my wrist, or reading extensive work emails on it.

Nice novelty for people who have the definition of disposable/unwanted income, but this isn't the "iPod" of today. At best this is the iPod Hi-Fi of today.

Edit: And "Can't live without"? That's a bit strong. I mean, I love my iPhone 6 Plus. Thoroughly enjoy it, as well as my iPad Mini 3 and my MacBook Pro, and all my past Apple devices. But I could certainly live without it. And it's far more useful than the watch will be. Hyping something too much can actually be damaging too. It builds excitement in ignorant folks who will be let down when they realize it's not only something they could live without, but also something that adds little if anything to the Apple experience they already had.

Although I agree with your statement at the moment, I believe that this device category will change people's lives in the future - when prices come down and it becomes more feasible for plebians (like myself) to own. Remember how expensive the 1st iPhone was back in 2007? iPhone prices fell and even became free and now anyone who wants to own an iPhone (at least in the US) can and does. The same thing might happen with this new SmartWatch category. Prices will be high initially and within 5 years, everyone might own one. The potential of this device, like the iPhone, has me excited. At the present moment however, it is DEFINITELY a novelty item.
 
Although I agree with your statement at the moment, I believe that this device category will change people's lives in the future - when prices come down and it becomes more feasible for plebians (like myself) to own. Remember how expensive the 1st iPhone was back in 2007? iPhone prices fell and even became free and now anyone who wants to own an iPhone (at least in the US) can and does. The same thing might happen with this new SmartWatch category. Prices will be high initially and within 5 years, everyone might own one. The potential of this device, like the iPhone, has me excited. At the present moment however, it is DEFINITELY a novelty item.

The first iPhone was expensive because it wasn't subsidized initially.
 
This is different than the other life-changing devices

The iPod made music mobile with Apple ease-of-use.

The iPhone made apps (data) mobile with Apple ease-of-use.


The watch is an $350 accessory. It's not a standalone product and it's not bringing a lot of "new" to the table. It's mostly trying to replace the "difficulty" of reaching in your pocket while adding a few health sensors. And the thing in my pocket has a much easier to read screen. My iPhone is as small as I want to go. When I get home, I use my iMac for music, email, maps, internet, banking. My iPhone is only used if someone makes the mistake to call me there instead of my home line.

Apple went health sensors + retina + jewelry (Nordstrom)

They should have went health sensors + analog face (Target)

The only way I can justify getting the watch as described, is if it's $99 or less.
 
Will it change the world?

Who the hell knows? I don't. A soothsayer I'm not.

Is it worth $500 or $1,000 to find out?

I sure think so. Why not buy one and find out?

It's the only way you will!
 
Biggest reason for the iPod's success was iTunes - Apple using the internet to disrupt physical music distribution and making the big 4 labels get on board

Same goes for the iPhone and Apple using the internet to disrupt mobile app distribution. You used to have to go to Best Buy and pay $20 for a copy of Pocket Quicken, connect your phone to your computer to install. With the app store you just downloaded over wifi for a buck

As good as industrial design and UI were, leveraging the internet as disruptive tech was key. Which is why a lot of people wanted that TV instead of a watch - TV is one of the last forms of media that's tethered to an old distribution medium (cable) when it could be radicalized by internet disruption.

There's no internet disruption when it comes to smart watches. I hope Tim Cook knows this and is just in marketing mode when he's comparing MP3 players to smart watches acting like UI is the main reason iPods made $$$. Because it's not
 
GPS is out of the question for the foreseeable future due to its power consumption.

I'm not buying this reasoning. Garmin has a whole line of smart sports watches that include GPS. Fitbit has one too, and there are others.

Leaving it out smells too much like a "we'll put that in the S version" tactic to me. Just like iPhone 1 lacked GPS and 3G when they were already standard in phones. Maybe they have their reasons, but to try and sell this as a sports watch / healthkit device and leave out GPS for running seems like a HUGE oversight if you ask me.

Fitness apps are some of the most popular apps on iOS, because people use them and share their data on social media.

The iWatch needs to retain some functionality while not tethered to the iPhone, then let it sync up with health kit or fitness aps when it's nearby again. Because the new iPhones are TOO DAMN big to run with. Some people have skinny arms, and they'd have to wear the ArmBands on their LEGS.
 
If it can triangulate from wifi signals then it will be very accurate consistently. If it can seamlessly sync with time from the iPhone it is in fact more accurate than a non gps connected watch.

No no. That's still cheating.

It's either an accurate time keeping device, or it's not at all accurate and has to constantly get its time from other devices.

That's like me saying how amazing my memory is, but not knowing anything when asked unless I get someone else to tell me the answer 1st.
 
I'm not buying this reasoning. Garmin has a whole line of smart sports watches that include GPS. Fitbit has one too, and there are others.

Leaving it out smells too much like a "we'll put that in the S version" tactic to me. Just like iPhone 1 lacked GPS and 3G when they were already standard in phones. Maybe they have their reasons, but to try and sell this as a sports watch / healthkit device and leave out GPS for running seems like a HUGE oversight if you ask me.

Fitness apps are some of the most popular apps on iOS, because people use them and share their data on social media.

The iWatch needs to retain some functionality while not tethered to the iPhone, then let it sync up with health kit or fitness aps when it's nearby again. Because the new iPhones are TOO DAMN big to run with. Some people have skinny arms, and they'd have to wear the ArmBands on their LEGS.

But Garmin don't have a retina display. Turn on notifications on a garmin watch and you'll get a day and a half. Put an Apple watch display on it and you'll get maybe 6 hours.
 
Accuracy of an Apple Watch?
How Accurate is that may I ask?

You mean it's accurate as it connects to the iPhone which then gets it's time off the Internet, and feeds that back to the watch to stop the watch being wrong?

That kind of accurate?

I'm genuinely interested, no joking aside, on this watch accuracy thing. I hope someone takes the watch, when it's 100% accurate and runs one of a month, charging it every day, and not letting is get near to any iPhone, and seeing in a totally genuine, unbiased, and honest way exactly how accurate it's time keeping is as a device, esp as Apple have made great play about it's accuracy.

If it's amazingly spot on after a month of no connections to anything external, than I will take my hat off to it, and be honestly and genuinely VERY impressed.

If it relies totally and utterly on the iPhone and Internet to keep it accurate then it's no more accurate than a $10 radio signal clock from Wallmart

Isn't that a bit like saying, I'd like to see how fast my car is, but I only want to use the first three gears?

I don't really care if it is drawing information from the iPhone to keep the time accurate. The bottom line is that when I look at my wrist now, I see an attractive timepiece that is telling me the time accurate to within a minute or so, and possibly in the wrong time zone if I am traveling.

If I were wearing an Apple Watch it will be on the correct time zone, also showing me the time it is back home, and hopefully some other useful information.

The timing systems on computers are extremely accurate in and of themselves, so I'd imagine based on what I've read that if you never let the watch talk to the iPhone for a month, it would still be accurate to within a second. Which is certainly as accurate as I would need.

Bottom line, I am game to try this thing and see if I like it. The price of admission isn't going to take food off my table. Either I'll like it or I won't.
 
I guess it might be able to do some triangulation but that's not accurate enough for running and wouldn't record pace or actual route well enough. So, Apple watch in its current form is not for marathon runners.

Oh - to track routes?
 
No no. That's still cheating.

It's either an accurate time keeping device, or it's not at all accurate and has to constantly get its time from other devices.

That's like me saying how amazing my memory is, but not knowing anything when asked unless I get someone else to tell me the answer 1st.

Well no. An accurate watch shows you the correct time more consistently. What does it matter if it's able to correct itself seamlessly? My garmin Fenix is gps. It has to correct itself but does so without me needing to know about it.
 
Well no. An accurate watch shows you the correct time more consistently. What does it matter if it's able to correct itself seamlessly? My garmin Fenix is gps. It has to correct itself but does so without me needing to know about it.

I suppose, to me it smacks a bit of dubious marketing by saying how amazingly accurate a time keeping device it is, when it's only accurate when it gets it's time off the internet.

You could call a old pc an amazingly Accurate timekeeping device then.

It's a shame when you are having to in effect make stuff up like this.
 
I just did a half marathon in pouring rain with a waterproof Pebble watch on my wrist and my iPhone strapped to me in a plastic bag. The Pebble was really helpful. The Apple Watch isn't waterproof and I even wonder if having the screen lit up that long (especially for a full marathon) would drain the battery too quickly.

Why would you have the screen lit up for the whole race? I do feedback via my headphones and glance at the pace when I'm unsure.

I'd be more worried about cold weather - the watch will be fine in the rain. The iPhone froze on mile 6 of the Seattle Marathon for me. It was 27 degrees for the whole thing. Boy did I miss my music and thank god for Pacers.
 
Problem is if it's used as much as Tim Cook indicates it can be, then battery life will be horrendous. If it's not used that much then it won't 'change lives' by becoming an indispensable piece of technology so will be perceived as flawed.

I'm all for a watch made by Apple, but I don't believe battery technology is able to support it, in 2/3 years time (with further processor power reductions and screen technology developments) then possibly.
 
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But Garmin don't have a retina display. Turn on notifications on a garmin watch and you'll get a day and a half. Put an Apple watch display on it and you'll get maybe 6 hours.

The GPS doesn't have to be on all the time - just when you run an App that uses it when your phone isn't nearby.

Still seems like a miss, and I bet we see it added in the next model.
 
All I know is the Watch is going to sell like crazy. What it can and can not do out of the box is 100% irrelevant. All Apple product launches come with a built-in audience (in the tens of millions) ready to pounce on the latest, greatest Apple product. Apple knows this. Apple likes this. Apple uses this (as they should). I continue to grin at all the pre launch nay sayers who seem to forget every Apple product launch since the iPod - where it is widely predicted that [insert product name here] will be huge flop, that no one wants it, that I have no use for it. Yet every time, records are shattered and the before mentioned nay sayers all fall right in line with the rest of us. It's pretty comical. The success of the Watch will be no different than any past launch: sold out preorders followed by several months of backorders and eventual quarterly earnings that impress Wall Street.
Just... Watch...

That mentality destroyed BlackBerry.

Long-term a product needs to justify itself. MacBooks, iMacs, iPods, iPhones, etc all do that. Products that don't--even Apple products--are overlooked like the Apple TV.
Although I agree with your statement at the moment, I believe that this device category will change people's lives in the future - when prices come down and it becomes more feasible for plebians (like myself) to own. Remember how expensive the 1st iPhone was back in 2007? iPhone prices fell and even became free and now anyone who wants to own an iPhone (at least in the US) can and does. The same thing might happen with this new SmartWatch category. Prices will be high initially and within 5 years, everyone might own one. The potential of this device, like the iPhone, has me excited. At the present moment however, it is DEFINITELY a novelty item.
Odds you'll simply get better specs at the same price point in the future.
 
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