Tim Cook Says Apple is Always Focused on 'Products and People' Over Wall Street Expectations

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

jobs was a tech-guy - he loved the products.
cook is a finance-guy - he loves money and grow

we will never see, products like the one with jobs, ever again.

cook will do his best, to focus on shareholder, and even more on cook, and cook.
cook first - america second

Before TC had his MBA, he had an industrial engineering degree.

So, he's a "tech guy" at heart, too. Maybe even more so that Jobs.

 

[Jesse Waugh]

Man....there are some seriously cynical/angry people here. I don't really understand why this site gets so much traffic from people who really don't seem to like the company that is the subject of the site. Seems like a better use of your time would be reading about/discussing things that you actually enjoy.

Is everything perfect? No. Could Apple as a whole be better? Sure. Do they deserve constructive criticism when they have issues with software or hardware they release? Absolutely.

But the over-the-top torch and pitchfork routine is just a sign that some here need a new hobby.

Like? We LOVE Apple - that’s why we’re in so much pain watching its obvious demise. You either can’t see it, don’t actually care about it like we do, or you just don’t understand.

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

That’s fine for you but I am in the professional A/V for live events. Can’t use iOS devices for that.

That's why Apple ALSO sells laptops that can drive FOUR external 4k displays or TWO external 5k Displays PLUS their internal display, and have 80 Gbps I/O Bandwidth that can be broken-out into a plethora of user-definable configurations, encompassing up to as many as FIFTY-TWO SIMULTANEOUS Legacy Ports.
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Sure Tim. Apple maintains some of the highest margains out there. It does so for shareholders and that makes sense.

If Tim was so concerned about people and other nonsense he wouldn’t be sitting on more money than many countries have.

I respect Apple for what they are. But in the end it’s all about the money.

So you'd rather they be cash-starved, then?
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Repeat with me, Mac Pro was a disaster from the start. I wonder why they did not sell many.

They only updated the iMacs internals. The outside design has not been updated in 7 years.

Volvo sold basically the exact same car from 1990 through 1996.

Sometimes, things get to a point where the design is just "Right".

 

[JediZenMaster]

I dont claim extra on my taxes. Any case are you hearing your self? You are defending a company that is using loop holes to not pay taxes which YOU end up paying.

From your response you seem to have a personal issue with Apple you need to work out.

I don’t see any issue with what they have done because most folks have tried to get out of a parking ticket etc.

They are trying to make things right. So that’s pretty much where I am leaving this. Have a good day.

 

[chiefsilverback]

I hate this current trend of 'journalism' to simply post quotes, tweets etc.. and precede them with a summary of what it is.

 

[pubwvj]

Jobs used to say that our data was ours forever.
Apple is abandoning that philosophy because they're not promoting legacy support.
With each new iterations of the OSs they are creating incompatibilities that cause legacy software to fail.
That means we lose access to our data if we upgrade.
That means we stop buying new hardware.
That means Apple sell less hardware.
That means Apple has less profits.

It is in both the user, the developer and Apple's interest to have Apple take legacy support a lot more seriously.
Apple has the resources and should offer legacy support all the way back to the Apple I.
The hardware today is far more than powerful enough to run all the old software in emulation.
Even better is if Apple does first-time-recompilation. They have the technology.

 

[citysnaps]

Why have a MagSafe port when you could have a more versatile usb C port in its place that can double as any other data port when your laptop isn’t charging?

And with USB C, you can use any of the four ports, on either side of your laptop. The best part is that it's not proprietary, like MagSafe was.

While I liked MagSafe (a technology Apple "borrowed" from another company and subsequently mproved), for me, it was always on the wrong side of my laptops. Also...Early MagSafe connectors had reliability and potential fire hazard problems. But that was under a different CEO.

 

[skellener]

I'd love that sentence to be true. Look at the quality of the software though. It's really gone downhill. Considering it's Apple, it's downright embarrassing. All I can say is they need a MobileMe moment right now. Get your act together and make the software "insanely great" again!!

 

[MacsRuleOthersDrool]

Dear Tim,

I so wish the things you said were true... But as I sat on the plane last week with a lap full of dongles and work-arounds for all of the customer focused decisions your teams have made to ruin my experience with my new X, I know it's just not the case.

There is always hope.

Lap full of dongles? Have you not spent 5 minutes on Amazon?

Howabout ONE of these?

THREE USB-A 3.0 Ports
4K HDMI Video Port
SD/MicroSD/TF Card Slot
Gigabit Ethernet Port
Audio I/O Port
USB-C Charging Port
About the size of a dollar-bill (6" X 2", approx.)

$60
https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Charging-Ethernet-MacBook-Chromebook/dp/B0773KD48G/


Or, if you want, you can get one with a VGA Port ALSO for $79:

https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Charging-Ethernet-MacBook-Chromebook/dp/B079M4F4DH/

Or, if you can live with 2 USB 3.0 Ports, this one has everything (no Audio I/O though, but the MacBook Pro already has that) and is only $54!!!

https://www.amazon.com/Gigabit-Ethernet-Charging-Aluminum-Chromebook/dp/B075SY3NRW/

So, I'm not sure where you needed "a lap full of dongles and workarounds"; but one of those docks should take care of ALL of your "port" needs while traveling. And hey, if you have a 15" MacBook Pro, you STILL have THREE PORTS LEFT!!!
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Well that explains why they still sell, at the same price, a Mac Mini with 4-generation behind hardware as it goes on four years since last update.

I guess as long as the consumer doesn't know any better, Apple is just as happy.

Yeah, because Intel CPUs have gotten like, 5% faster in those 4 years... If.
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I loved Apple products for their flexibility and reliability. That’s slowly being taken away for things that are nice to have, but not necessary. I need at least one USB-A port on my laptop. (Dongles are BS.) I NEED a reliable, secure OS. I NEED a reliable keyboard. I don’t need a HomePod or a touch bar. If I’m spending $2k+ on a computer, these are reasonable expectations. And Tim Cook seems to have missed that.

And yes, I’m planning to go elsewhere for my next laptop. I really want to stay with Apple, and I hope that they might value what consumers say to make some small changes in how they spend their ever growing gobs of cash. But if I need to go to Linux, so be it.

So, if the device has a removable cable, simply pull $6 out of your wallet and replace the USB-A cable with one that has USB-B on the device-end, and USB-C on the Computer end, like this:

https://www.amazon.com/Cable-Matters-USB-C-Printer-Scanner/dp/B00VKSF39O/

..or, you REALLY can't whine too much about THREE for $5 PASSIVE USB-C to USB-A Adapters (not DONGLES, DAMMIT!). Buy two packs and throw one of them in your computer bag. DONE! Now you can snap that onto the end of your Memory Stick, and plug it right into your MacBook Pro!

https://www.amazon.com/Adapter-Hi-speed-Devices-MacBook-ChromeBook/dp/B01LXAUUTG/

So, that's IT for USB.

What else were you whining about again?
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Oh wait, the dongle business! Totally forgot about that, the most pro-consumer thing you can imagine.

Bullsh**.

Go onto Amazon and see just how many USB-C "dongles" are being made. There are HUNDREDS!!!

Guess what? Do you REALLY think they're ALL ONLY for MacBooks????

 

[Altis]

Yeah, because Intel CPUs have gotten like, 5% faster in those 4 years... If.

They've improved quite a bit... especially now that the U-series (that's in the Mini) are quad-core, have native support for things like h.265 video encoding, Thunderbolt 3, etc...

Heck, the Mini doesn't even have USB-C or TB3... I was told those are the future and everything else needs to be immediately abandoned, like two years ago.

But according to you, Apple's laziness is perfectly fine and people shouldn't even bother buying computers beyond 2014 models.

 

[soanis]

By and large, no they don't.

How long have you been using the internet?

Only I wasn't talking about the internet in general, but MR and several other fora.

If you think people subscribe and hang out in here just to bash apple/others for no (constructive) reason, OR just for circlejerking reasons, that's too bad...

 

[Williesleg]

Uh oh, sounds like it's time to brace ourselves for an AAPL tumble.

So if Little Timmy can't make good product or keep the stock up, what can he do?

Time to bring back Scott Forestall.

 

[kruegdude]

Ah yes, the kool-aide drinkers preemptively bashing the free thinkers. How droll.

Haven’t heard “droll” in a while. How Free Thinking of you.

 

[femike]

Tim is sure good dribbling rubbish. His number one customer are the institutional shareholders, he knows that, and with Apple under Tim Cook, it's more obvious than ever. His aim is to be known as the CEO of the first trillion dollar company.

The >3 year old mac mini, which Apple is selling at the same price!, is a classic example of how Apple doesn't care about its users or even its own products. It couldn't be any clearer than this. It's just inexcusable.

 

[I7guy]

Tim is sure good dribbling rubbish. His number one customer are the institutional shareholders, he knows that, and with Apple under Tim Cook, it's more obvious than ever. His aim is to be known as the CEO of the first trillion dollar company.

That’s a great goal to have. He will go down in the history books. But you need customers to make that happen.

 

[mikethemartian]

The camera on iPhone’s have replaced a lot of people’s cameras over the years, more and more people are using their phones camera to take pictures when on holiday and so on, the Bokeh effect on the iPhone 7 Plus, iPhone and the 8 Plus is great, no it’s not going to replace a high end DSLR that pro’s use but it will replace the everyday camera that most people use.
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Failed products? They made a mistake with the 2013 Mac Pro and owned up to it, the MacBook Pro’s are hardly a failure and what you fail to mention are all the success and great products under Tim Cook, Apple Watch, AirPods, iPhone, iPad Pro.

How long did it take them to correct the deficiencies of the Mac Pro?

 

[ErikGrim]

Like? We LOVE Apple - that’s why we’re in so much pain watching its obvious demise.

Thanks for the laugh. I needed that.

 

[mikethemartian]

I had the first Macintosh and thought it was VERY cool, and so did everyone else. When was Apple NOT considered cool?

I thought the Apple II was way cool back in the day.

 

[nt5672]

Time Cook is riding on a single product that Jobs developed, the iPhone. In spite of some terrible decisions, Cook has managed not to screw it up too bad. That is because the iPhone was so incredible, not because Cook is some genius. But the damage is becoming obvious, with the inattention to software quality, something I do not believe Cook understands at all.

 

[mikethemartian]

btw, you can tell him in that image, he's a heavy thinker

He's trying to emulate Rodin's The Thinker
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Shortly after Windows 95.
I would say in between the mid 90s to the mid 2000s. It was like a counter-culture thing to use Macs/Apple products. Macs had a stigma about them, they were considered weird or odd, especially when talking to other tech people.

Other than the people I talked into getting Macs (family, some friends), hardly anyone else would use them. I would tell people that I used Macs, and sometimes I would get laughs.

I am not saying that the people that were not interested in Apple products had rational reasons for it, and many of the reasons were just plain dumb.

In my experience, the perception of Apple product becoming cool changed about the time that Macs switched in Intel. People might point out the iPod, but even with that, Macs still had that stigma about them. By the time that the iPhone and iPad were a success, Apple products, including Macs seemed to have lost the stigma it once had.

I would have preferred to own a Mac in the 90s but needed a PC for compatibility. What was great in the 80s was that there was such a variety of computers available. Not just Apple and IBM but also Atari, Commodore, TI, Sinclair, etc. But by the time the 90s came it seemed like everything had shifted to Wintel.

 

[Gutwrench]

Over the top comments, Tim. Oh, including that stupid picture.

 

[Lioness~]

He's trying to emulate Rodin's The Thinker

His wet dream. But truth is he don’t have 1% of it or any of Steve’s mind.
That is probably what makes his comments sound so pathetic. The pretense.
He’s just a businessman, that’s all.

 

[JOBS-3:16]

This is Grade A bologna! Tim Cook doesn’t care about users, or the products, he only cares about profits. Case in point...iOS 11 and the iPhone X. I’ve had every iPhone since the iPhone 4, and the iPhone X brings nothing exceptional or innovative to the table. The only thing it has going for it IMO is it’s form factor, and Apple should’ve made the near bezel-less display happen 2+ years ago. iOS 11 is garbage, point blank. I’ve never had an iPhone perform so closely to an Android in my life. It’s a disgrace and yet another reason Jobs is rolling in his grave...again. If they don’t get it together I might have to buy an Android this fall, which is my worst nightmare. The unchanged in 3+ years Mac Pro that Apple NEVER lowered their price on and was a rip off to begin with. Oh, and let’s not forget Jony “The Coat-tail Riding Hack” Ive and his “unapologetically plastic” iPhone. Apple has been on the same downward spiral that it was on from the 80’s to the late 90’s...only Jobs isn’t coming back this time It’s just going to take longer for them to fail this time around. The profits you keep seeing are because they continue to charge more for less, simple really.

 

[fastasleep]

Like? We LOVE Apple - that’s why we’re in so much pain watching its obvious demise. You either can’t see it, don’t actually care about it like we do, or you just don’t understand.

Yes, the obvious demise of the most successful company in the world at its highest point.

 

[AppleScruff1]

Want some cheese to go with that WHINE?

USB-C -> USB-A Adapters are literally 3 for $5, get over it.

Yes, they removed a couple of USB-A and (perhaps) an HDMI port, and REPLACED them with Ports that can TURN INTO a myriad of configurations of up to 13 SIMULTANEOUS "Legacy" Ports PER USB-C/TB3 PORT (FIFTY-TWO SIMULTANEOUS PORTS TOTAL ON THE MBP 15"!!!)

And all you can do is WHINE.

And as far as "Saying there was nothing to fix?" Didn't Uncle Craig just announce a few weeks ago that the next version of iOS was going to focus on STABILITY and BUGFIXES? Sounds like an "Admission" that the regular pace of "New Features" has got to take a backseat for now. What more do you want?

https://www.macrumors.com/2018/01/30/apple-to-focus-on-ios-performance-quality-issues-axios/
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They released the HomePod without a HALF-BAKED version of AirPlay2 or Multi-Speaker mode. Samsung would have gone ahead and released it with the half-working versions baked into the ROMs.

Apple HAS demonstrated both the multi-speaker (pseudo-stereo) software, and I believe AirPlay 2; but does not feel that it is ready for prime-time (hence them pulling AirPlay 2 from the most recent version of iOS betas)

Yet they had no problem releasing still half baked Siri and maps a few years back.