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I tried the iPad Pro replacing a computer route for a few months, ended up selling it and buying a MBP instead... It can't replace a pc/mac at this stage.
 
People don't buy iPads because people don't need to upgrade their iPads.


I think that's correct, however, in my case I'll be upgrading again this year, from my 9.7" iPP purchase a year ago. Been really putting it to use and I need more storage than the 128GB I purchased.

what I really want though, is external storage that I can both back-up to and a Restore from Back-up
 
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The large market gains by Lenovo and Huawei indicate that the segment has possibility at a lower price point.

I think if the larger iPads (not mini) had 512GB and could support all the features and accessories of a Belkin (or similar) Thunderbolt dock, many really would use it as a laptop / desktop replacement. I know I would.
The lower average selling price is due to liquidation in the Windows PC market, so when you see sales slightly going up but prices going down, these are due to liquidation sales which are a negative indicator for the Windows PC market as the manufacturers are losing money.

If Apple was able to maintain their average selling price with minimal deterioration or increases, than they are outperforming the market in general.
 
Exciting things. Really funny tim. How about delivering on these exciting things. Not sure if this new pad will make me upgrade from my great air 2. Tbh the increased price of the pro isnt really worth it to me.


Its not a replacement for a PC for me. It cant run 3dsmax, AE etc, not can it render for long perioids of time.
 
I think Tim is a great CEO, but I am not buying this. Didn't he say the same thing before the iPad Pro came out? They got my money of course for the iPad Pro and the Smart Keyboard, but they were not as exciting as what he had claimed.
 
I really like iPads. I've an iPad 4 I use regularly. It will never replace my laptop or my phone but it's a nice to have.
The one and only reason I'm not upgrading my ageing device is the price on a new one. I'm sorry, they are just too expensive. I can go down to Tesco and get a tablet for under 100 quid these days. Why should I be paying close to 1000 for the Apple version???

I know the iPad is a premium product but I just can't justify paying 1000 quid on an iPad just as I can't justify paying 100 quid for some toilet paper with some gold leaf detail.

The iPad 4 isn't the fastest nor the lightest and sure, I'd love a new one - but nowhere near the money they are asking. It's no longer a novelty and I don't care about thinness. Every iteration is merely about being able to charge more for the products.
 
I think that's correct, however, in my case I'll be upgrading again this year, from my 9.7" iPP purchase a year ago. Been really putting it to use and I need more storage than the 128GB I purchased.
I'm sure you're not alone, ever since the iPP was released I've read stories about how people have used them as their main device. I personally couldn't, but if it works for you then good on you and Apple for making a product that fits your work flow!
But for the casuals who only use it occasionally (like my mother and grandparents) and for those who use it as a consumption device (youtube, reading on the couch) any current gen model will last for quite some time unless you need more storage, which you already mentioned.
 
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Tim cook in a business meeting

Employee: Sir Cook, sales are down we need a way to retain customer satisfaction
Cook: Take away the god damn emoji's that arent politically correct!!
employee: But...sir.... people love the gun emoji
Cook: GET RID OF IT DAMNIT.
employee: yes sir
Cook: AND WHILE WERE AT IT GIVE THEM SOME NEW F***ING EMOJI'S THAT MAKE NO SENSE AND NO ONE WILL USE
employee: But sir the customers...they want more ram in the macbooks...they want touch screen...they need more power, we NEED to update the mac line its our foundation!
Cook: I HOLD THE POWER F*** THE CUSTOMERS!!
 
Remember, Timmy said.

“I think if you’re looking at a PC, why would you buy a PC anymore? No really, why would you buy one?” ...
“Yes, the iPad Pro is a replacement for a notebook or a desktop for many, many people. They will start using it and conclude they no longer need to use anything else, other than their phones.


What an idiot.

Actually, I think an iPad is a better computer for many people than either a Mac or a PC. That isn't the case for me. But for my Mom, I kind of think we are there. I think folks just haven't realized the power of the iPad when you couple them with the right applications and a good keyboard. Yes, there is some stuff you can't do. But there are also many things that just work better and faster on an iPad.
 
What I'd like to see in an iPad to start considering replacing my current one:
* Multiuser support (we use it at home 3 people already but it's tight to one Apple account, c'mon!)
* Storage upgradability (via SD slot or sort of, likely not coming considering recent moves in other Apple products)
 
I don't know about y'all, but my iPad Air and iPad mini 2 still run blazingly fast [iOS 8 for now], and even my original iPad from 2010 still gets used daily. The iPads have enough hardware to keep people from upgrading, I think. I just wish iOS for the iPad was a bit more customized, as I think that's the limiting factor. But an iOS upgrade won't make people buy new iPads unless current models run super slow with said upgrade.

Yes, absolutely true. The iPad is maybe the best Apple Product of all.
I loved my iPad 3, IPad Air 2 and now the Pro.
I would even used my IPad 3 a year longer, if I would not been forced to update the iOS...
But it is still usable today.
I like to say: "everybody (or household) needs an iPad and a Dyson cordless vacuum, because the are fantastic"

You're really have to use one to realize how great it is.
I also considered the iPad as a toy, until I bought one....

The problem is the price I think.
Apple should flood the world with low priced Air 2s, that more people can see the benefits of such an device. No need to make it faster or add features.
 
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Sigh, Tim, we are still waiting on those exciting things in the pipeline. I swear he's been feeding us that same BS line for years.

And Apple keeps launching stuff that Tim thinks is exciting, that sellout and dominate their industry, and yet tech guys insist are not exciting. For example, I bet you don't consider AirPods exciting. But I bet AirPods do several billion in sales in 2017 and they change the headphone industry.
 
Apple dominate the tablet market with the iPad, all but the cheapest section of the market. Apple needs to simplify its iPad approach. They have by far the best tablet with the iPad Pro and they will continue to refine this product over time with greater focus on software and integration with the Apple Pencil and having three distinct sizes of display. Apple should drop the iPad Air completely. Apple should not let its competitors win the cheapest end of the market, Apple should cut the price of its cheapest iPad mini and be aggressive with its competitors. When you have consumers buy into the Apple iEcosystem then you are getting more money from them in apps and services too.

Apple should have three sizes of the iPad Pro with the latest Ax processors and it should have nothing in between no iPad Air because it is now a dumb product if it doesn't allow the use of the Apple Pencil. The iPad mini 4 should be the entry level iPad. Apple should not overcomplicate the product with the number of different iPads it sells.
 
I don't know about y'all, but my iPad Air and iPad mini 2 still run blazingly fast [iOS 8 for now], and even my original iPad from 2010 still gets used daily. The iPads have enough hardware to keep people from upgrading, I think. I just wish iOS for the iPad was a bit more customized, as I think that's the limiting factor. But an iOS upgrade won't make people buy new iPads unless current models run super slow with said upgrade.

The truth is, the same can be said of your previous iPhone, I'm sure. If Apple worked as hard to put is newest shiny in the new iPads, and if you weren't also buying an iPhone, I suspect you'd see the value in the faster iPads. I buy a new iPad with every revision, and trust me, there's a difference.
 
Exciting iPad things, he also says desktop Macs should get some love soon , possible arm/intel hybrid MacBook Pro with Kaby lake later in the year and maybe a very exciting iPhone this year . It could be a very good year for Apple , and I really hope it will be .
 
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