Strong demand my arse, more like Apple fans were starved for a new product and had been saving for a while. I wouldn't say that constitutes a victory IMO.
This is absolutely spot on. I buy stuff because I like it. Might be Apple, might be Porsche, might be Oliver Sweeney. But I don't kid myself into thinking that objectively I’m buying the best product out there because I’m not.And I love commenters that reply without reading. I never said you can only like the machine if you're brainwashed or self-deluded. I said if you compare the Razer Blade to the 2016MBP and think Apple has a good machine that's not ripping you off, you're brainwashed and self-deluded.
You can still like the machine, there's plenty of reasons to still buy it which I mentioned in my post. But if you can't admit to yourself you're getting very little computer for a heck of a lot of money compared to what else is on the market, then you're brainwashed and self-deluded. The 2016MBP is not a marvel of engineering, it's a marvel of marketing and social engineering.
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The thing is, a normal consumer doesnt give 2 f**ks about the newest tech. Theyre about looks and ability to perform their daily tasks like email and safari.
That tends to happen when there are no major releases for 4 years and people want new technology.
A normal consumer is the type that buys a product where that product is the one most commonly sold……….What's considered a "Normal consumer?" I consider myself someone who doesn't specialize as a graphic designer or what have you. I do a lot more than just "Check my E-mail" or browse "Safari." I certainly researched the tech before I purchased mine and rightfully so, and if you are spending a high dollar amount, you better research what you're purchasing. Your opinion seems to be kind of a broad stroked assumption unless you have data showing what the average user uses their MacBook Pro for.
A normal consumer is the type that buys a product where that product is the one most commonly sold……….
That sounds good on a tech website, but the 5% of consumers using these sites rarely share the same knowledge of general consumers. I'm willing to bet a large percentage of customers responsible for those sales have no clue that it's been years since a major update.
I don’t know. Point is when people use the term normal user, I’m pretty sure that they mean that guy that that goes to Apple and just buys. I’m generalising but I’m guessing most, ‘normal’, users are not techy. These are the ones that buy what they are told they need.And which model across the The Mac lineup is the most commonly sold...... How would someone be able to Determine that based on their needs/specifics?
I did exact same thing. Now I need to figure out my transition to a linux laptop. I don't think I can live with touchbar and lack of decent range of ports including magsafe. F u apple for ruining perfection.
And how many of these clueless consumers you're talking about are going to spend $3000 on a MBP rather than $1200 on a MB?
If you're the kind of person who doesn't know exactly what you're buying, the MB is perfect for you and you're not going to pay a premium for an MBP. Very few people will pay an extra $600 for the emojibar without understanding what they're buying, and even fewer will spend $3000 on a 15" laptop unless they know exactly what they're buying. There's plenty of good $1000 15" laptops, you're not going to blow another $2k for an Apple logo. For $3k you know what you're buying unless you're in the very small minority for whom $3000 is a whim purchase.
Those are from people who bought it. So sells are sells ,returns are returnsStrong demand? That does not explain strong supply of refurbished touch-bar macbook pros: https://www.apple.com/shop/browse/home/specialdeals/mac/macbook_pro/15
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Because users had no real choice if they wanted OS X.
maybe in a year or two it will be helpful
I did exact same thing. Now I need to figure out my transition to a linux laptop. I don't think I can live with touchbar and lack of decent range of ports including magsafe. F u apple for ruining perfection.
Are you saying you use the TouchBar less than you used the old Function keys it replaced?
Same here, I have a nice 15" MBP from 2012 its doing great, though the battery probably could use replacing. Prior to Apple unveiling the new MBP, I was thinking/hoping to buy a new one, but now not so much.Still rocking my rMBP 2012
What's considered a "Normal consumer?" I consider myself someone who doesn't specialize as a graphic designer or what have you. I do a lot more than just "Check my E-mail" or browse "Safari." I certainly researched the tech before I purchased mine and rightfully so, and if you are spending a high dollar amount, you better research what you're purchasing. Your opinion seems to be kind of a broad stroked assumption unless you have data showing what the average user uses their MacBook Pro for.
Unbox Therapy pretty much summed it up when he said your average user would be better off with their old MBP and a used car.
You're too salty to reason with. Have a good day.Better keyboard...that piece of crap in the 2016 should be banned as cruel and unusual torture. That alone is a 100% deal-breaker.
Better display huh? Bright != better, for example with alienware, the 400 nits 120Hz display is an inferior TN, while the better IPS display is 300 nits, 60Hz. I use a calibrated/profiled display and part of that is turning the brightness way down.
Better processor....the machine is nearly 2 years newer and the 2015 had an old CPU for its time, it damn well better be better and 100% of the credit goes to Intel. And the non-emojibar model has a vastly inferior processor despite the price hike. So yeah, the 2016 base MBP is an inferior CPU to the base 2015 MBP. Despite the higher price tag. That's inexcusable.
Thinner body. The 2015 is plenty thin. The 2016 is a cheap toy that level of thinness is not a perk, and if you think it is, the MB is even thinner, go buy that.
The 15" is an even bigger joke price/performance-wise, so mentioning the anemic GPU isn't doing it any favours.
Nothing screams high end mac like getting rid of the glowing apple logo and chime right? They're tiny things, but literally every single thing about this design says cost cutting. And they delivered something that looks and feels like a cheap piece of junk. How much does it cost to insert a translucent piece of plastic in the lid? 5 cents? Too much for Timmy obviously. But let's kill the brand a little bit more.
And getting rid of magsafe was another huge mistake.