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Uh, no they don't.

These are pretty bad, blurry photos. Not even that great for a well lit, outdoor, daytime photo where just about every camera shines. AND these were takin (unless I read something wrong) by a professional SI photographer? If that's the case they really suck!
 
I was at the Titans game yesterday. It looks like another long season for Titans fans.
 
Nothing wrong with cherry picking photos since they still come out of the camera. No camera can produce great pictures 100% of the time due to numerous variables that come into play during the recording.

also they are taken on a smart phone probably quickly as well, most people cherry pick photos and keep the best ones, nothing wrong with it, as you say.
 
the photos look good.

But, i do find that the contrast on these photos have been dialed up to 11.

seriously look how "black" the blacks are. that can't be out of the sensor. if thats the way iPhone 7 photos end up looking, thats not great. with a few photos having a few blowouts of whites, and seeing such ridiculous darks, all on the same photos, looks like the HDR setting on the iPhone 7 might still be cranked a little too wide for the sensor
 
Are we looking at the same pictures? I think they look great! The problem I see with people is that they don't realise how good these images are on a smart phone, a device that's small enough to fit in your pocket. Phil even said himself during the keynote, that they don't expect people to be throwing out their DSLR cameras. I for one can't wait for my 7 Plus to arrive!

They look fine, but the problem is that this is par for the course for all high end smartphones today. There's just nothing mindblowing about it, and certainly for those except the most discerning, these photos are no different than photos taken on a 6S.

I've got my 7 on order, but can't help but feel that aside from the color and the iOS 10 upgrade, it's going to feel like I'm using the exact same phone as I have now.....
 
Nothing wrong with cherry picking photos since they still come out of the camera. No camera can produce great pictures 100% of the time due to numerous variables that come into play during the recording.
That was not my point. Photo editing (selecting the right photos for publication, not Photoshop corrections) is the standard for professional media organizations. Of course I get that, my point was the ESPN photos are not very good in terms of showing off the new iPhone 7 camera (take another look, the whites are REALLY blown out) and that those photos may have not been cherry picked. Just a dump from an iPhone.

So, the question is is the iPhone 7 camera really better than the past iPhones or just better under specific conditions? This being represented in the selected (cherry picked) photos from SI.
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The ESPN shots are so much better. How is this shot possible with an iPhone though let along any smartphone? Where was it photographed from? Roof top? Drone, strapped onto a huge selfie stick?

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I agree the composition, clarity, colors and focal length are incredible but am I the only one really concerned with how blown out all the whites are in almost all the ESPN photos? Look at his shoes, hat, wrist band and shoulders.
 
you really need a better screen, those photos aren't blurry at all. Sunshine, blue skies and green grass are colors I see and know. Don't be a ****
I thought I was going blind trying to find where the photos were blurred. I also didn't see any of the main subjects being blurred. I guess someone was just trying to be a dick. With all that light the depth of field should be rather wide. I didn't look at the photos with a loupe, so maybe my eyes are just bad since I didn't see any blurring in the football photos.
 
I thought I was going blind trying to find where the photos were blurred. I also didn't see any of the main subjects being blurred. I guess someone was just trying to be a dick. With all that light the depth of field should be rather wide. I didn't look at the photos with a loupe, so maybe my eyes are just bad since I didn't see any blurring in the football photos.
 
tbh not impressed, as this is one of the main features in this iPhone model I expected a bigger improvement from my 6S. These look the same, worse and slightly better. No real low light pictures
 
I must admit, i'm beyond impressed (and I don't even care about cameras! :D )

With something like this, even I would want to snap a few.

Plus, now you can film abuse in low light and HD!!!!
 
I agree some have unrealistic expectations from a phone camera. Below is a picture I took with my 6s and it looks pretty decent (despite of resolution toned down for uploading to MR site).


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I agree some have unrealistic expectations from a phone camera. Below is a picture I took with my 6s and it looks pretty decent (despite of resolution toned down for uploading to MR site).
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Nice gulls! :) Indeed.. Here's one I took on my 6+ .. Positively antique by modern phone-cam standards.. They just take good photos in bright light, and have for some time!

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I'm most excited if it lets you capture the images in .RAW and modify them within Photos - that will be worthwhile.
 
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Nice gulls! :) Indeed.. Here's one I took on my 6+ .. Positively antique by modern phone-cam standards.. They just take good photos in bright light, and have for some time!

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I'm most excited if it lets you capture the images in .RAW and modify them within Photos - that will be worthwhile.

Wow your pic is much better :)
 
way to push a camera to the limit by taking pictures in bright daylight.......this is like saying your the best in math by showing how you can add 1 + 1

lol....

I bet the first two photo's were done in burst mode, then average out the best
 
Probably a combination of a few different things:

- The parts are more expensive (much like you get more features on bigger, pricier cars - even though it would be nice for the smaller Mercedes A-Class to have the same feature set as the S-Class it's not likely to happen).
- The Plus costs more, $120 for a few extra features to justify the cost seems sensible.
- Physics/engineering - we see the tear downs at iFixit how cramped modern smart phones are. Usually tech shrinks over time, allowing extra features to be added to smaller frames.
- Allows trialling of new features in smaller quantities as the Plus sells fewer units than the regular model.
- Some up-sell, from a business standpoint Apple would probably prefer users to buy the bigger phone, but I don't think many people are going to be swayed. Standard photos are identical between the iPhone 7 and 7 Plus - only the zoom and future portrait mode use the tele photo lens differ.

Probably a few other reasons. But I doubt there's a huge conspiracy theory to get people to upgrade. Some people just can't use such a large phone. I reckon it's in Apple's long term interest to add the extra features to the smaller version where they can.

Thanks for breaking it down for me. Makes more sense this way. :)
 
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Since you don't own a 7+, I am not sure how you feel able to qualify absolutes.

Strange, the Moto G4 produces "bokeh", no matter how minimal, it's still there, Google it.
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So it's the truth, and even if it's obvious, better than lying.

Because you don't get much bokeh out of a 56mm lens. Especially at those distances from the subject. It just isn't possible.
 
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And I get the feeling if someone said these came from the Galaxy S7 or Note people here would be praising them and that Apple has a long way to go to catch up. ;)

That was my point exactly. Be it an android or iPhone, posters will make grand calls just based on the brand.
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Question come to my mind... Are we buying a phone or camera? Why should we become so picky with the phone camera? As long as it's good, or very good that should be enough for us, then we share those pictures in lossy compressed format through WhatsApp, Facebook, twitter etc which make them imperfect again - which happen to most people with their pictures captured by phone. Why do we need a phone with perfectly good anyway?

You are right, most people do not care, they will buy the latest phone, with whatever camera it has. Apple themselves make a big think out of the camera on the iPhone, most of the recent markerting campaigns have forced on shot on iPhone . It's all markerting hype anyway. A smartphone just needs a good camera.
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Because you don't get much bokeh out of a 56mm lens. Especially at those distances from the subject. It just isn't possible.

I get fantastic bokeh out of a 50mm f0.95......

You are spot on, just could not resist to be cheeky :p
 
A better screen? You say that without knowing what screen I have. Good job. I have a retina MBP. If anything, a poorer screen would prevent me from being able to see enough detail to know they're blurry.


Hey man just to confirm I gotta 60 inch 4K TV im viewing them on; saved em directly from the site and blown up they look like total dog ****! Im praying dear God these are just super compressed photos. So blurry you could take a pic of Precious and she'll look like Beyoncé Knowles.
 
Hey man just to confirm I gotta 60 inch 4K TV im viewing them on; saved em directly from the site and blown up they look like total dog ****! Im praying dear God these are just super compressed photos. So blurry you could take a pic of Precious and she'll look like Beyoncé Knowles.

The photo from the site are 1/10 the pixels and compressed.
You may have a 60 inch TV, but you're short on some other aspects... Get a clue.
 
I think that describes most consumers. Traditional digital cameras don't seem to be "a thing" anymore. It's so much easier to take photos on the smartphone you have with you almost every minute of the day... and then share them from that same device. No messing with files... no messing with computers. Very convenient.

I was at a dance competition over the weekend. I was shooting photos for the event... Canon 70D, kit lens, external flash.

My photos looked great. Well-lit, good color, shot in RAW then processed in Lightroom.

But moms and dads were using smartphones to capture memories. Their photos were poorly lit, kinda hazy, terrible color... but it was convenient. So I guess it was better than nothing.

I saw two DSLRs and NO point-n-shoots at the event. Times have changed.

I welcome smartphone cameras getting better because I don't think consumers are ever going back to digital cameras.

As an example... my DSLR image is on the left... a smartphone image is on the right:

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BTW... the only adjustments I made in Lightroom was to drop the black levels a bit. No other color correction was done.

The smartphone photo was taken directly from Facebook and was uploaded straight from the phone.
Great post. Thanks for sharing. See mac rumors members it's possible to have conversations with substance.
 
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