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A public company and its leaders are accountable to the shareholders - their objective is to produce an acceptable return on a shareholder's investment. Everything else is just a bunch of hooey.

The reason products are built in places like in China is not because corporations are evil. Its because consumers are full of poo. They talk about the evils of moving manufacturing oversees. The evils of foreign made products. Of losing jobs. And yet, how many people in the US will select US made products over foreign made products (and pay the corresponding premium in price)?

The free market is not evil. People vote with their dollars. And the way people voted, they are telling us that foreign made products that cost less are preferable to US made products. All the free market did is it gave the consumer a mechanism to vote with their dollars.
I'm all for the free market. But please acknowledge that burdensome regulations and high taxes also forced manufacturers to move abroad. It wasn't just labor costs.

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And much of these regulations were put in not to protect the public but by lobbyists to stifle competition.
 
Quite simply, I don't want to align myself with any brand that actively cooperates with this racist, sexist, xenophobic bigot.

It's fine to passively get by under this administration, business is business. But don't entertain this moron. I hope Elon Musk gives him the middle finger.

You seem to have fallen for the propaganda dude.
 
I don't like the connotations of this but what you've actually said is bang on: Cook is slowly destroying Apple.

Craig should be CEO IMO.

I really think you guys base ability to be a CEO on how well people are on stage.

It doesn't matter if Tim Cook is a product guy or not, as long as there are people at Apple who can make those decisions. But he must be innovative and an A player (at operations), or Steve Jobs wouldn't have let him head up the Mac team, and then operations, and then the entire company while Steve was on medical leave, and then the entire company permanently.

No one cared Steve Jobs couldn't code, because he had people to do that for him.

Apple isn't a one man show, it never has been.
 
ask russia how socialism is
The USSR is dead, Russia is a capitalist country (well crony capitalism anyway).
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Maybe Trump will eat Tim Cook alive. :p That way Apple can move on and hire a good CEO, one who will release a freaking updated Mac Pro already.
As long as Trump doesn't force Apple to implement a backdoor but a new Mac Pro would be good.
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Music industry never needed Elvis. It had a ton of artists that were 100X more talented...

they were just the wrong colour.

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Funny... I hear conservatives talk about the free market. Yet they are also for government interfering in where companies choose to do business and where to set up shop. Do they REALLY believe a FREE market?

Damn right. As to the second part, well I would add cutting government is a big thing for conservatives except where the military and "security" (NAS, CIA, MI6 KGB/FSB, etc. etc.)
 
This has got to be both humbling and humiliating for all these CEOs who campaigned so heavily against him. And I love it.
Why? Donald Trump has a big mouth, that's all. He can shout all he wants. For example, when he tried to interfere with the position of the UK ambassador to the USA, Theresa May put him down very politely and very effectively. Trump is out of his league. He is up there against _real_ business men who didn't inherit their wealth from daddy.

Fact is that Trump is a bully and liar. He's such a liar, he doesn't even _care_ when everyone knows he is lying. You really think anyone in that room doesn't know what he is? Or that anyone in that room would have _respect_ for him? I don't think so.
 
I honestly don't think there should be any incentives offered to apple etc. Why should any government be gifting more leniency to companies that already work outside the laws most small businesses follow. To allow deals for companies like this actually encourages them to misbehave to get their own deals. Say you want to leave the US and take jobs abroad, wham you get a deal even if you never intended to leave.

Donald is setting a very dangerous precedent that is going to backfire. It's not politics, it's just common sense to use the stick first not the carrot.
 
Aw shucks, they cannot lie to you? 'member when they lied to you about WMD in Iraq?

'member?

Yes the mainstream media can very well lie, either by omission of truth or direct fabrication. Do they? Usually no, but sometimes, oh yes.
They reported on the lies of the Bush administration. You can rightfully accuse the MSM of many things, but the liars in that case were the Republican warmongers. If you can't see the difference you're falling for the same lie twice.
 
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With the CEOs all gathered at the boardroom table, Trump will simply announce "you're all fired".
 
Anybody except Tim Cook would have been better-being CEO he has not created nothing from foundation up to high production and demand Steve has left the drawings in place and Tim is just reading from the same hymn sheet year in year out
 
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That's like begging the music industry to find us another Elvis. Never gonna happen unfortunately.
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The US had a president in 1930....very sucessful Businessman...Herbert Hoover....he passed the
Smoot-Hawley Act, which was signed into effect in 1930 and raised tariffs on more than 20,000 products to levels not seen before in US trade history.....THE GREAT DEPRESSION FOLLOWED.
 
Yes, because one biased source of information "fact checking" another biased source of information will certainly yield a perfectly honest bunch of mainstream journalists. Are you actually implying that mainstream media in the US is truthful?
There is a difference between bias and lying. A biased source of information can absolutely fact-check one that is giving false information.

It's very important to know the difference.
 
Steve Jobs did fine under a Republican president. Not to mention it wasn't very active in politics. Apple and his mission was all that mattered
 
If I was president I'd be digging up all the dirt on these people, their companies and how they operate like they've no doubt done on him. Knowing your opponent is how it works in business and Trump probably knows this well.

That would require preparation and study.

Instead, he will directly threaten the CEO's to do things the way he wants or face steep penalties - the kind that make it impossible to continue doing any business at all. Then he will make a BIG event presentation about how he was able to make the companies come back to America, making sure at every opportunity to highlight how smart he is, how terrific he is, how great his plan is, how better off we will be now because of him - how better off the companies will be now because of him.

True False quiz:
America doesn't have nearly the manufacturing experience of China.
The Chinese labor force is five times the size of the US labor force.
American's will not work the same hours as Chinese labor.
American's will not work with the same intensity as Chinese labor.
Trump will make Chinese products prohibitively expensive with tariffs.

This will present a massive supply and demand problem. No one will buy Chinese because it will be expensive. American products will be poorly made, and there will be a lot less of them since we're 1/5 the size. So American products will also be incredibly expensive as supply can in no way keep up. So most people stop buying stuff. Companies can't sell what they're making and can't afford to make what they're selling.
 
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