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Tim Cook Tweets in Memory of Steve Jobs, Who Passed Away Seven Years Ago Today

cyberslammer said:
Jobs wouldn't have released the watch the way it was, an unfinished product.

Jobs wouldn't have released an iPhone that was WAY out of people's price ranges with the EXCESS, much less having a store with 4 different versions of the iPhone for sale at the same time.
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The first-gen iPhone lacked a ton of features, from copy and paste to the App Store to 3g connectivity. And its starting price of $600 on contract was unheard of, and considered ridiculous at the time as well. Even now, the iPhone continues to add new features every year. Who is to say when a product is "finished" or "unfinished" when it is clearly a constant piece of work in progress?

Apple's sales numbers for the next two quarters will likely beg to differ. That there is no shortage of people ready to pay top dollar for the iPhone regardless of its price.
 
Seattle University Village Apple Store (under renovation at the time) - Steve Jobs memorial.
 

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Sill said:
The Watch was a Steve product
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No, it wasn't. Numerous reports give the following cases, none of which has been definitively confirmed:
  1. Steve Jobs had no idea that Jony Ive seriously wanted to make a watch. (This seems most likely; Jony Ive himself has said that work on the Watch began shortly after Jobs's death.)
  2. Steve Jobs knew Jony Ive seriously wanted to make a watch and wasn't sold on the idea.
  3. Steve Jobs knew Jony Ive seriously wanted to make a watch and was actively against it.
There's been no indication, as far as I know, that Steve Jobs had any substantial involvement with the Watch even in its earliest days.

Edit: Found this recent interview with Jony Ive where Ive says: "No, we didn't talk about watches, or us making a watch. I don't remember him wearing one either," where "we" is Jony and Steve, and that the first talks took place "in early 2012."

Sill said:
Kind of sorry that iMessage is now just "Messages", though...
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iMessage was never an app; its name is still very much in use to describe a service. The app was always Messages on iOS and formerly iChat—now Messages—on macOS.
 
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Peperino said:
Until Apple finds someone to innovate again, cause Tim Cook did nothing whatsoever
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Because that's not Tim Cook's job. The role of chief visionary has passed from Steve Jobs to Jony Ive, so it's only natural and understandable that Tim Cook himself is not actively involved in the creative design process.
 
Abazigal said:
Because that's not Tim Cook's job. The role of chief visionary has passed from Steve Jobs to Jony Ive, so it's only natural and understandable that Tim Cook himself is not actively involved in the creative design process.
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Once, these geniuses will invent the free placement of a homescreen icon
(because they serve humanity)
 
Bacillus said:
Well, then because that function matured with the competition for 8+years
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Good for them, I guess.

Apple is rumoured to be overhauling the home screen next year, but I expect it to take inspiration from the Siri watch face on the Apple Watch by serving you contextual information as you need it, so I see Apple changing anything with regards to more versatile arrangement of app icons anytime soon, if ever.
 
Defthand said:
I used to think the same thing until I realized that giant companies like Apple are seldom motivated to disrupt their existing cash cows. Besides, revoluntionary ideas or products take a long time to go mainstream (if at all). Apple’s customer base is mostly Joe Average and his family. Apple only needs incremental enhancements to keep Joe satisfied.

Instead of Apple finding another Steve Jobs, you and I should be searching for him.
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Look what I found *pulls rabbit out of hat*

You are of course right. Incremental progress is really nice for the most part and it is very important to keep Joe satisfied, but you don't get to where Apple is by iteration only. When Steve presented the iPhone, I could not believe how much better it was than existing phones.
 
Abazigal said:
Good for them, I guess.

Apple is rumoured to be overhauling the home screen next year, but I expect it to take inspiration from the Siri watch face on the Apple Watch by serving you contextual information as you need it, so I see Apple changing anything with regards to more versatile arrangement of app icons anytime soon, if ever.
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Great idea - with most of the (desktop-class) power sitting idle for millions and millions of users.
I’d favor you as a VP of UX
 
Bacillus said:
Great idea - with most of the (desktop-class) power sitting idle for millions and millions of users.
I’d favor you as a VP of UX
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To be fair, there's a lot going on in iOS that makes use of that powerful CPU, such as Machine learning, image recognition, AR, games, security and computational photography, even if you never see it. Don't think your phone is sitting idle just because you are.
 
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cyberslammer said:
Jobs wouldn't have released the watch the way it was, an unfinished product.

Jobs wouldn't have released an iPhone that was WAY out of people's price ranges with the EXCESS, much less having a store with 4 different versions of the iPhone for sale at the same time.
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Erm.. you might want revisit history.. wasn't there a 200 buck price drop very soon after launch...
 
Abazigal said:
To be fair, there's a lot going on in iOS that makes use of that powerful CPU, such as Machine learning, image recognition, AR, games, security and computational photography, even if you never see it. Don't think your phone is sitting idle just because you are.
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I know, lots of buzz mostly favoring commercial parties and info collectors.
Spying you without identifying you - in the name of modern “security”.
Serving the selfie-creating herds. While the more useful UX enhancements require a jailbreak.
 
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indyandy said:
Well, Steve was a great thinker and entrepreneur but I don’t think he was the humanitarian that Tim Cook is describing him.
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Neither is Tim Cook the humanitarian Apple propagandists want us to believe.
The rich and powerful want to serve humanity alright--
our bodies on a platter with apples in our mouths for them to carve up and feast upon. (sorry for the pun)
 
gwaizai said:
Neither is Tim Cook the humanitarian Apple propagandists want us to believe.
The rich and powerful want to serve humanity alright--
our bodies on a platter with apples in our mouths for them to carve up and feast upon. (sorry for the pun)
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Oops...a hard verdict on a great environmental activist
(polluting the planet with unnecessary electronics waste while depleting its lithium reserves to its max)
 
cyberslammer said:
Jobs wouldn't have released the watch the way it was, an unfinished product.

Jobs wouldn't have released an iPhone that was WAY out of people's price ranges with the EXCESS, much less having a store with 4 different versions of the iPhone for sale at the same time.
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What makes you so sure? The iPhone Jobs released was just as much ‘an unfinished product’ as was the watch.

But pay no attention to reality, continue with the mythologizing and deification of Steve Jobs.
 
Abazigal said:
Because that's not Tim Cook's job. The role of chief visionary has passed from Steve Jobs to Jony Ive, so it's only natural and understandable that Tim Cook himself is not actively involved in the creative design process.
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And Jobs, apparently, knew that the company should no longer be run by the ‘chief visionary’.
 
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StyxMaker said:
And Jobs, apparently, knew that the company should no longer be run by the ‘chief visionary’.
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I would argue that by putting Tim Cook in charge of running the company, it frees up Jony Ive to focus on what he does best - product design. This way, you don’t stretch him too thin (and reports do suggest that Ive has been overextended of late).

From what I see, starting a company and running it long term entail two completely different skill sets, and that is why founders really need to move on once the companies they start get big enough to be taken public. Being a “big idea man” doesn’t necessarily make you a great manager.

That’s why I can’t help but roll my eyes every time someone goes “Steve Jobs would never have done this”, considering that he would probably be ill-suited to manage an Apple of today’s size anyways.
 
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I7guy said:
Is there some selective memory going on, or is Elon Musk excepted because you deem him as a "visionary"?
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No, he simply wasn’t the subject (which might be new to him...)
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StyxMaker said:
Apparently iPhone users, as a whole, don’t care whether or not the iPhone has that feature.
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It merely is that Apple decided that they can’t decide what they don’t care about.
 
Building products does serve humanity, especially building new and better products. Otherwise, civilization would not advance. Do you want to be living with 1980’s technology? No of course not. Companies built better products and humanity moved forward and made progress.

rpat701 said:
"What it means to serve humanity."...? I would have chosen other words to remember him by. He did little to serve humanity. Building products and a business isn't serving humanity and the greater good...
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