Ha, get wrecked Android. Again, fine with this - if you disagree, there's the big aluminum and glass door... Sideload at your own risk.
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Tim Cook: Users Who Want to Sideload Apps Can Use Android, While the iPhone Experience Maximizes 'Security and Privacy'
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In the Epic vs. Apple trial, Craig testified that he thinks macOS is less secure than iOS due to this very reason.Quick question: Why would it be unsafe on phones but not for computers?
Take a guessiOS basically is a variant of MacOS, they claimed so at least (LOL). Does that mean that they do sub-par security for iOS, maybe get some devs from the MacOS team over to help? LMAO
I can imagine the entire Apple board of directory having dreamt of forbidding software installs on Mac computers just as much as they did on iOS for years now.
In the end, it's just common law. Everybody is used on it on iOS, so most people believe this makes sense and must remain like it is.... think again!
I predict, Apple will lose this argument in court and will have to change their stance on this within the next few years.
Opening the OS in this way, even if you never (intentionally) utilize the option to side load, opens up an attack vector. The surface of ways to attack a user is significantly increased by this one attack vector, and many users will be negatively affected.
I don't want my phone less secure just because people want iOS to be Android -- I hope they don't lose this argument in court.
And what about sideloading on macOS Tim Apple?
If I buy a Volvo or a Porsche, I can use the tires and the fuel that I want. I can customize it the way I want. I'm the owner of the car once I bought it.
Apple never was/is a privacy minded company.
Why does nobody ever call Apple out on this bogus argument by simply countering that people "side-load" apps on Mac computers every day. Everybody is fine.
"Side-loading" apps has been the norm ever since computers have existed. It was only in 2007 that Apple came up with this ridiculous idea to want to control exactly which apps can and cannot be installed on their operating system.
"Side-loading" apps has been the norm ever since computers have existed. It was only in 2007 that Apple came up with this ridiculous idea to want to control exactly which apps can and cannot be installed on their operating system.
Except macOS and iOS are very different experiences with different use cases. People generally carry their most sensitive information on their phones (and is with them at all times!), whereas a computer doesn't typically have every detail about their lives, and doesn't go with them everywhere they walk.
This is why macOS is both more open (don't need windows to side load) and less secure than iOS.
Timmy already admitted under oath that it's about $$. He isn't under oath speaking to the public, so he can say whatever he wants.
Cook, under oath:
"If we allowed developers to link out like that, we would give up our monetization."
He was specifically referring to subscription links, but same effect. If side loading is allowed, they're giving up monetization as well.
Apple won't decide it, others will for them and force them to do whatever they think is right.
There's sideloading on macOS as well, if it's such a security risk, please lock down macOS!
If the security risk is so high when sideloading, can we also expect Apple to fix the countless security holes in iOS that exists without sideloading enabled? Here's a incomplete list of recently closed issues: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-49/product_id-15556/Apple-Iphone-Os.html
Would be more interested in the open issues.
Would also like to know if Apple has done a security study of iOS vs something like GrapheneOS, which is considered safer than iOS.
And for the shareholders it would be interesting if lack of sideloading has anything to do with the drop in marketshare for iPhones. The iPhone is sitting at under 14% global marketshare right now (and Apple dropped to #4 of smartphone manufacturers). People leaving iPhones to sideload?
There's sideloading on macOS as well, if it's such a security risk, please lock down macOS!
If the security risk is so high when sideloading, can we also expect Apple to fix the countless security holes in iOS that exists without sideloading enabled? Here's a incomplete list of recently closed issues: https://www.cvedetails.com/vulnerability-list/vendor_id-49/product_id-15556/Apple-Iphone-Os.html
Would be more interested in the open issues.
Would also like to know if Apple has done a security study of iOS vs something like GrapheneOS, which is considered safer than iOS.
And for the shareholders it would be interesting if lack of sideloading has anything to do with the drop in marketshare for iPhones. The iPhone is sitting at under 14% global marketshare right now (and Apple dropped to #4 of smartphone manufacturers). People leaving iPhones to sideload?
FOSS apps can be, and I would argue typically are, more secure. But, there's no guarantee that comes along with it, and the average user isn't going to side load FOSS apps, but if iOS opens up side loading, then the average user will have a huge attack vector opened up against them.
To continue Tim's analogy, why doesn't he put airbags and seat belts in macOS then?
MacRumors, this isn’t accurate and you should modify the article to reflect this. The rules aren’t the same in the PRC or in Russia as they are in the U.S.
Sure, and subsequently void the warranty due to using non-OEM parts. They also don't open up the cars electronics to you.
Believe what you want, I don't particularly care. But I suggest you buy Android if this is what you want. I'll continue enjoying the privacy and security of the walled garden.
Sideloading is already a thing on the Mac. Apple could make the sideloading optional with a warning, most noobs won't activate the toggle.
Really? So Facebook, Instagram, and all the other social network apps abandoned the Google Play store?
No? Huh. That doesn’t really seem to compute, does it?
Sure, the "secure" App Store is such a beautiful tool for extortion and censorship that Cook will rather sacrifice his ... whatever, than allow iOS or iPadOS to become user-controlled systems. He would make iOS of macOS, if the customers allow it. And he will always happily refer to Android (as well as some lemmings do here) and "security", exploiting to the max the ugly duopoly which has devoured the mobile OS market. Go use Android yourself, Tim. We want an OS that is not a spyware or ad platform and which is administered by users. Neither you nor Google will ever make it for sure.
Huh? Do you not sync your devices? What about your taxes, financials, job applications, legal letters to your lawyer, documents from your doctor/hospitals and so on. Do you actually have all of that on your iPhone only? I have that on my Macs, some on my iPhone/iPads, but not all. I don't know anyone who doesn't use a computer for these things.
Do you take your mac with you to the store? To the bathroom? To the gym? To everywhere you go everyday of your life?
Do you take all your private photos with your mac?
I understand about security aspect of this. But Apple has allowed side load apps on Mac. You can argue all you want about Mac is different than iOS, but you also have lots of personal sensitive stuffs on your Mac.
I understands cars restrict you mess around their self-driving or smart car solution for safety reasons, but I will never like this trends, especially on EV where you petty much loss all the freedom of traditional gasoline cars.
I don’t know, I guess this is how it will go. As we more integrated into digital staff, company has more control over their products. This might be just how it will end up with.
Can you cite examples of the flood gates opening on Android? What Social Networks have abandoned the Google Play store?
