Tim Cook: Users Who Want to Sideload Apps Can Use Android, While the iPhone Experience Maximizes 'Security and Privacy'

[Mockletoy]

The iOS App Store works the way it does because the current arrangement

- maximizes Apple’s control
- ensures Apple has to face zero competition in the iOS app marketplace
- maximizes Apple’s profits

Remember, this is the same company that cares so very deeply about our privacy that it was planning to treat us all like suspected child molesters and run local scans on our devices to make sure we didn’t have any kiddie porn laying around.

If Apple believed their own “security and privacy” BS they’d be morally and ethically obligated to lock down the Mac. By their own admission and logic, to do anything less would be literally criminal, since sideloading is, as they claim, the scammers’ and cybercriminals’ best friend.

 

[TheYayAreaLiving 🎗️]

“Privacy”


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Privacy seems to be Tim Cook’s favorite subject.

 

[Aoligei]

Do you take your mac with you to the store? To the bathroom? To the gym? To everywhere you go everyday of your life?
Do you take all your private photos with your mac?

I store all my private photo on my computers… I take my laptop with me when I am out for trip.

People store way more private staff on computer than phones….what a world right m?

 

[ACHD]

Sideloading already occurs via the MDM exploit/MDM method………

 

[canadianreader]

Yeah, and macs are less secure than iPhones.

No! For example I can't install a firewall on the iPhone or can't block an app from calling home and sending whatever data to the dev. On the Mac I can do that and even more.

 

[ksec]

Can you imagine having a product, that your company sells, and a whole bunch of people are telling you what you allowed and not allowed to put on it?
Am I allowed to tell LG to use android instead Web OS? Can I ask Samsung to not allow sideloading? Can I ask Toyota to install CarPlay access? WTF is going on here

These over simplistic explanation again?

You can once you hold a substantial market power, using it against local companies as moat or competition, and the government of that market will decide whether that should be or should not be the case.

And of course, as per MR comments Apple should pull out of those country that force them on anything. ( Except US )

 

[falkon-engine]

Apple is just trying to hold on to its 30 percent cut. All this smoke and mirrors about airbags and seatbelts and safety is just the reality distortion field doing its thing.

 

[lowendlinux]

I really don't care whether people side load or not, but this was the expected response.

 

[spainbran]

Sure, and subsequently void the warranty due to using non-OEM parts. They also don't open up the cars electronics to you.

Believe what you want, I don't particularly care. But I suggest you buy Android if this is what you want. I'll continue enjoying the privacy and security of the walled garden.

Did you read me talking about Android anywhere?
Fake privacy concerns of Apple which calls home every 5 seconds with your private data to an US server and not allowing secure apps which don't send anything ....

 

[Mockletoy]

Sideloading already occurs via the MDM exploit/MDM method………

As usual, Apple’s security theater hardly slow the scammers and criminals down, but they do a bang-up job of keeping the rest of us from being able to load up an emulator for a quick and harmless nostalgia fix, so, mission accomplished, I guess?

 

[mox358]

They are different use cases. Social engineering is the big concern here. If I hose my Mac downloading something, it likely won’t threaten my life. I just restore at a convenient time from Time Machine. If I do that same thing with my iPhone and I’m in a situation where I depend on being able to make a call or send a text (think broken down car, medical emergency) and my phone doesn’t work, that’s a big issue. Even though they are both just computers, we use them very differently.

 

[DelayedGratificationGene]

Side-loading is not going to remove Developers financial cost. Apple will still be getting paid. I hope they all realize this.

 

[Puppuccino]

This is such nonsense. Security in iOS would still exist even with app side loading. This is just another poor attempt from Cook to try and sway people into thinking Apple isn't doing anything wrong.

What about macOS? Cook is inherently saying macOS is not private or secure because you don't need to use the App Store to download and use apps.

It's so stupid, even for him.

 

[Acidsplat]

It's okay to run any program you want on macOS but not iOS?

 

[Mockletoy]

They are different use cases. Social engineering is the big concern here. If I hose my Mac downloading something, it likely won’t threaten my life. I just restore at a convenient time from Time Machine. If I do that same thing with my iPhone and I’m in a situation where I depend on being able to make a call or send a text (think broken down car, medical emergency) and my phone doesn’t work, that’s a big issue. Even though they are both just computers, we use them very differently.

If you’re that scared sideloading will end up literally killing you and leaving you laying dead in a ditch somewhere, don’t do it.

Problem solved.

 

[Darth Tulhu]

Tim: "If you don't like the way we do things, feel free to buy something else".

Hardcore Apple. And true.

This has ALWAYS been Apple's philosophy, so why the fuss now?

I mean, there's ALWAYS been some of us that wanted something Apple didn't offer and they had us go pound sand.

Then again, they did bring a few things back, so...

 

[Mockletoy]

It's okay to run any program you want on macOS but not iOS?

Apple says sideloading is the cybercriminal’s best friend.

Apple allows sideloading on the Mac.

Apple is the cybercriminal’s best friend.

By their own logic.

 

[v3rlon]

100% agree with him.

100%

Same. I enjoy the walled garden for my phone. Note I am not asking for this on my computer, but I am fine having it on my phone.

 

[Mockletoy]

Tim: "If you don't like the way we do things, feel free to buy something else".

Hardcore Apple. And true.

This has ALWAYS been Apple's philosophy, so why the fuss now?

I mean, there's ALWAYS been some of us that wanted something Apple didn't offer and they had us go pound sand.

Then again, they did bring a few things back, so...

Because Apple used to be the outlier, the scrappy underdog. The things it did didn’t have much impact beyond its relatively tiny customer base.

Now it’s the 800-lb gorilla.

Being the biggest means you have to play by different rules.

 

[SigEp265]

I would just like to sideload the apps that I have previously purchased, but have been removed from the app store. Is that too much to ask for ? Luckily I have jumped through hoops to get it done. I don't care to pirate apps, etc.

 

[v3rlon]

Or you can use Safari for Facebook, Instagram and twitter…

I noticed NFL.com won't let me see scores since I denied sharing my location, even in Edge on Win10.

 

[DelayedGratificationGene]

What a great argument. If sideloading is important to you then by all means buy an Android and good luck with your purchase. Our product does not offer that but we wish you well. That is Awesome!

 

[GrumpyCoder]

Do you take your mac with you to the store? To the bathroom? To the gym? To everywhere you go everyday of your life?
Do you take all your private photos with your mac?

Not following... what does that have to do with sideloading apps? I don't take my iPhone with me to the bathroom or gym either. I would primarily be worried about anyone accessing data on my phone. And if they do that while it's in a bathroom or in my office doesn't matter. In the end, someone is accessing my data if an exploit happens. And again, iOS is full of security bugs that allow for these things to happen.

I take photos with my mirrorless camera, occasionally with my iPhone. But anything I take with my iPhone, ends up on my Mac as well. So I don't see the difference there.

 

[Techwatcher]

Is this not word for word what I said in the other article? Just use Android. Who cares lol.

 

[mox358]

If you’re that scared sideloading will end up literally killing you and leaving you laying dead in a ditch somewhere, don’t do it.

Problem solved.

You do realize that won’t be an option for people. Apps will leave the store if this is allowed. Why are you so excited to sacrifice your security to make giant companies like Microsoft, Epic, Facebook, Spotify, etc.. more money? Aren’t they rich enough? Unless you are a major shareholder in these companies it doesn’t add up.