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Tim Cook Visits Mac Pro Factory 'Loaded with American Manufacturing Expertise' in Austin [Updated]
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All right. Buy a Mac Pro instead of that loaded 27" iMac, and you can pay an extra 250%, 25 times better!
I think you should go back and see that actual post that I quoted in the first place. I looked at the picture and immediately noticed they were using Windows. It didn't bother me one bit. My issue is when people make statements (not exactly you) that suggest that we as consumers should continue living in a Microsoft monopolized world. And it's so funny how people hate Apple for being just a "BIT" dominant in the tech world. It seems to be okay when Microsoft is monopolizing us with their software.
Honestly sometimes I can't believe I'm actually on an Apple-enthusiasts site.
Exactly, let's not bother creating more software that runs on Macs so Windows can remain the dominant OS...even for building Macs.
"We use Windows so you don't have to" ;-)
All of them? did you check? Cause I heard it's a hybrid, and some key compoents do come from the US even for iPhones assembled in China
I wonder if Tim Cook answered the call.
"Hello, this is Tim Cook with AppleCare. How are you today?"
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Honda - GA (transmissions at least)
Lots of CNC machines, waterjets, etc. run on XP, or otherwise connect to Windows.
500 million iPhone owners couldn't care
please reference that number...
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I remember when the President had a meeting with the tech honcho's a while back and he asked Steve Jobs this...
Pres: Steve, why can't you bring these jobs back to America?
Steve : I am sorry to say Mr.President, those jobs are not coming back.
And then Cook does the opposite of that! Love it.
Well done Sir, Well done.
Irrespective of what jobs they are or who they work for.. the point is.. its being done here. It's about time as at this rate of outsourcing we would have completely forgotten how to make anything!
Pres: Steve, why can't you bring these jobs back to America?
Steve : I am sorry to say Mr.President, those jobs are not coming back.
And then Cook does the opposite of that! Love it.
Well done Sir, Well done.
Irrespective of what jobs they are or who they work for.. the point is.. its being done here. It's about time as at this rate of outsourcing we would have completely forgotten how to make anything!
"Made in USA":
Thrice as long to manufacture thrice the MSRP.
Maybe, but I suspect, like much of what Apple does, they are laying the ground work for bringing back more manufacturing stateside. Pick a product with low volume to sort out manufacturing, components, suppliers, skillsets, build times, failure rates etc. I bet they'll get to a place they're happy with and bring a new product online. Might be a year, might be five. But I'd say it's in the works.
Or they run their own OS and load the file from a network'd server. I remember seeing an engineer write their own CNC program in notepad because his application kept crashing that writes the program file.
An Indian friend of mine hooked me up with the twitter account of the new Indian Primer Minister @narendrmodi I just realized his tweets are remarkably similar to Tim Cooks'!!
"We are blessed to be part of a culture where living in complete harmony with the environment is central to our ethos"
"Celebrating Earth Day With Jack Johnson at Apple with our great team"
"We are blessed to be part of a culture where living in complete harmony with the environment is central to our ethos"
"Celebrating Earth Day With Jack Johnson at Apple with our great team"
And reading comprehension isn't one of your strengths either. When you said there was no financial motivation for factories to create Mac software to make Macs, then my reply was Apple has over $100 billion in the bank. I wasn't referring to them "being rich". I was referring to Apple no longer being a small-time company.
You do know that they were named at one point not too long ago the second most valuable company right? Or did you think they are no bigger than the company who makes Circus Ponies Notebook?
Low volume, premium price product like the iMac could be manufactured here. Making the iPhones would be a different story from both the cost and volume perspective. I remember reading an old article in which Apple execs were defending Apple's outsourcing effort. In the article they highlighted the Asian manufacturer's ability to incorporate last minute changes (I think it was the iPhone's screen getting scratched and they switched to glass). I am not sure what expertise Cook is talking about, but Apple itself admitted that the US is behind.
I personally don't have a problem with outsourcing for some things, but if it was my choice I would have everything made in the USA. My issue with outsourcing is shipping, especially when it comes to bigger and heavier items such as the iMac. There has been enough issues with the iMac over the years since they started making them in China. I've had 4 iMacs and all of them have had issues until I got one made in the USA. Sure, it has overseas components but it was built and shipped from a city that I live under 2 hours away from. I have zero issues with it and it's been 2 years.
That article was regarding the original iPhone and the last minute decision to retool and go with the co-developed gorilla glass.
Frankly, if "being behind" means not having live-in city factories in which workers are woken up at midnight for a 12 hour shift (thats what happened in this story) to retool a manufacturing line, I'm fine with that. Manufacturing in China is inhumane given the demands in terms of time. These people live their lives in the factory cities (with some nice amenities mind you) so they can afford to buy what they need in the company stores, and send money to their relatives. It's harken to the mining towns at the turn of the 20th century in America, with some creature comforts. I don't want people to have to live in a factory for them to survive.
From the article:
"Apple executive described what happened after a midnight arrival of the rushed shipment of new Gorilla glass from US to the Chinese manufacturing plant:
A foreman immediately roused 8,000 workers inside the company’s dormitories, according to the executive. Each employee was given a biscuit and a cup of tea, guided to a workstation and within half an hour started a 12-hour shift fitting glass screens into beveled frames. Within 96 hours, the plant was producing over 10,000 iPhones a day.
“The speed and flexibility is breathtaking,” the executive said. “There’s no American plant that can match that.”
I think you should go back and see that actual post that I quoted in the first place. I looked at the picture and immediately noticed they were using Windows. It didn't bother me one bit. My issue is when people make statements (not exactly you) that suggest that we as consumers should continue living in a Microsoft monopolized world. And it's so funny how people hate Apple for being just a "BIT" dominant in the tech world. It seems to be okay when Microsoft is monopolizing us with their software.
Honestly sometimes I can't believe I'm actually on an Apple-enthusiasts site.
You're spinning things way out of proportion man. Relax. We'd all love to see Macs replace PCs in more and more industries. But manufacturing is a tough one. OSX only recently just got AutoCAD, after being absent for how many years?
Macs have always had a monopoly in the Arts, Windows on the boring stuff. Personally, I find that a much more attractive position for the Mac. Let boring Windows run boring industries. Macs have always attracted the creative arts personalities, and continues to dominate marketshare in those fields. Look at Microsofts ad agencies, they all use Macs. So it works both ways. Its not a big deal.
Apple has zero factories.
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A little help for you....
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Try not to hurt yourself.
I think you should go back and see that actual post that I quoted in the first place. I looked at the picture and immediately noticed they were using Windows. It didn't bother me one bit. My issue is when people make statements (not exactly you) that suggest that we as consumers should continue living in a Microsoft monopolized world. And it's so funny how people hate Apple for being just a "BIT" dominant in the tech world. It seems to be okay when Microsoft is monopolizing us with their software.
Honestly sometimes I can't believe I'm actually on an Apple-enthusiasts site.
As an engineer, I would love it if apple had software to all of the products I use everyday in the lab. But at the same time if you suggest apple do that, then it will need to keep a lot of extra code to make older computers still compatible. I run one machine that still uses dos. Could we replace it, sure but it would cost 250,000 us dollars. Once you buy these expensive pieces of equipment you are usually stuck with the operating system they came with. So apple could do this like microsoft does and make everything compatible, but then the operating system would not be as efficient and be forced to have many extra lines of code. Could apple do it? Yes. But the newer operating systems would suffer because of it.
