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Tim Cook Would Have Preferred to Announce the New iMac in January

You learn by doing Timmy, you learn by doing indeed.

I'm sure Jobs would have learned from this as well, just not have admitted it publicly.
 
eric/ said:
How long ago was Maps released? Why are people still complaining about Maps? It's not even a big deal. Don't like it, download one of the other billion map applications.
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I'm not complaining. I like Maps. It just didn't start off on the right foot.
 
GREEN4U said:
Wow, so he would've delayed a product that was perfectly fine and ready to go? Somebody please get rid of this guy for good.
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You missed the point entirely, didn't you? The product wasn't ready, which is why they had such severe manufacturing and supply issues. So no, the product wasn't "perfectly fine" and I give Cook props for admitting it.

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A Hebrew said:
First thing I thought of was how big of a slap in the face this is to Mac Pro users when he said "We felt customers had to wait too long for that specific product."
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What is it that Mac Pro customers are waiting for? I have a 2009 Mac Pro quad core w/ 16 GB of RAM, SSD and it runs at 3.3 GHz and still eats anything I throw at it. For many, performance is adequate and does not require an upgrade. Mac Pros are not like iPhones - they don't need to be updated each year.

How many of you with Mac Pros that are 2-3 years old feel that performance is inadequate? I mean, if you need USB 3.0 then you have a slot for that - there are slots for a reason. But if you feel that you need to drop $3,000 on a new computer just so you can have built-in USB 3.0...
 
AZREOSpecialist said:
What is it that Mac Pro customers are waiting for?
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I have a 2006 Mac Pro which still runs great, I'd like a new one but there's no way I'm forking out £2500 for a machine that's got essentially the same design as it did 10 years ago (geez has it been that long?!) and has specs that yes are good, but are grossly overpriced compared to other similarly-specced machines.
 
komodrone said:
Wow I called it:
https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=17179037#post17179037
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You got the prediction right, but that may not have been the reasoning. They definitely didn't want a stale product lineup for the holiday season. That much is obvious. The cpus and most of the gpu options had been out for nearly 6 months at that point. The 680MX may not have been ready, but that was about it.

GREEN4U said:
Wow, so he would've delayed a product that was perfectly fine and ready to go? Somebody please get rid of this guy for good.
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It wasn't really ready. Some people on here were claiming they would skip an ivy bridge update entirely, which was absolutely asinine. They could have delayed the redesign though to push out an earlier Ivy Bridge version. The event was in September. Without the design updates, they probably could have launched at that time. It may have been that spacing from Intel on the next hardware generation simply wasn't favorable to such a strategy.
 
GREEN4U said:
Wow, so he would've delayed a product that was perfectly fine and ready to go? Somebody please get rid of this guy for good.
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How was it ready to go if there weren't enough parts to fulfill orders? 😕 Stop being ignorant as if you'd do better.
 
Elijahg said:
I completely agree with you, Apple seems to be getting rather OCD about shaving off another 0.Xmm just for the sake of it, which is completely unnecessary on a desktop. When was the last time you heard anyone say "I wish my iMac was thinner"...?

It's pretty ridiculous too that they have to use an expensive and slower mobile CPU and GPU just so they can save a few millimetres... I'm pretty sure they wouldn't loose any sales by having perhaps an internal PCI slot with the GPU in, which would have fitted in the older aluminium design no problem. How about user-upgradable RAM too? What happened to that?
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Actually Apple has always been ultra obsessed with thin devices, it's just that in the last year there wasn't much room to go thinner.

Luckily to satisfy their intrinsic need to keep making their goal of thinner, we have super adhesives that allow apple to toss the fasteners and bind it all with glue.

Whatever challenges that presents, such as some broken or damaged components in the attempt to repair faulty units, only makes more money for Apple. They have always been good at selling hardware.

2014 ought to be quite a year. Thinner glue perhaps? 🙂
 
One thing is for certain. If Tim cook is ever ousted, apple has their pick of capable future ceos right here on macrumors. Amazing how so many capable people have found themselves here, huh?
 
GREEN4U said:
Wow, so he would've delayed a product that was perfectly fine and ready to go? Somebody please get rid of this guy for good.
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I think he was saying it wasn't perfectly fine and definitely wasn't ready to go at the time it was announced.

Announcing products too far before they can ship hurts everybody. Consumers idle without their purchase, companies see revenues from existing products crimped (a phenomenon that killed Osborne), suppliers are stressed, quality issues arise, costs skyrocket, competitors make hay... it's a bad thing all around.

In your comment, you're assuming you know the whole story. You don't.
 
pirg said:
One thing is for certain. If Tim cook is ever ousted, apple has their pick of capable future ceos right here on macrumors. Amazing how so many capable people have found themselves here, huh?
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Haha, that made me laugh. I always thought this was Tim Cook's biggest mistake as CEO so I'm glad he admitted it and learned from it and Apple should be better off because of it.
 
Orlandoech.com said:
He is a joke and a pathetic CEO. I'm thinking of jumping ship to S4 because the iPhone is a joke now.
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Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[apu]Thank you, Come Again[/apu]

And just so MR admins don't delete my snarky post yet again...

Cook shouldn't have let the iMac out too early like what happened. Obviously, being an inventory guy, he saw the problems but the others did not. Cook may not be the best CEO Apple has had, but he does make good decisions (and apologizes) when needed.
 
Wow! Back in November I said here --> https://forums.macrumors.com/showthread.php?p=16301490#post16301490

that prematurely announcing the iMac would come back to bite Cook and Apple in the arse.

And so many told me I was an idiot for saying as much. I may be dumb in some ways, but not when it comes to business decisions, especially painfully obvious goofs like Cook getting ahead of the iMac for zero reason.

I'm elated that I've been officially vindicated by Cook himself, and hope his iMac decision is a teachable moment for him.
 
snebes said:
Don't let the door hit you on the way out.

[apu]Thank you, Come Again[/apu]

And just so MR admins don't delete my snarky post yet again...

Cook shouldn't have let the iMac out too early like what happened. Obviously, being an inventory guy, he saw the problems but the others did not. Cook may not be the best CEO Apple has had, but he does make good decisions (and apologizes) when needed.
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Tim Cook is a pathetic leader and an idiot.
 
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I think Apple's biggest mistake was to update every single of their products at the same time last fall.

Not only did this result in lower margins overall, but it created a predictable hole in Apple's product release schedule for the first half of 2013, which allowed some "analysts" to spread the idea that Apple stopped innovating, knowing well that Apple could not answer back with new products for many long months.
 
maxosx said:
Actually Apple has always been ultra obsessed with thin devices, it's just that in the last year there wasn't much room to go thinner.

Luckily to satisfy their intrinsic need to keep making their goal of thinner, we have super adhesives that allow apple to toss the fasteners and bind it all with glue.

Whatever challenges that presents, such as some broken or damaged components in the attempt to repair faulty units, only makes more money for Apple. They have always been good at selling hardware.

2014 ought to be quite a year. Thinner glue perhaps? 🙂
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Hah, they have for a long time been obsessed with trimming the fat, that is true, but not so much so they sacrificed features for it until the last 4-5 years (retina MBP is thin, great, but you need to carry a bag full of adapters)...

Let's hope the new Mac Pro hasn't been influenced by too much of Apple's "we think you should work like this", otherwise we'll have a 1" wide "pro" computer that has a 4200 RPM laptop drive, two laptop RAM slots and a integrated GPU. 😛
 
Elijahg said:
I have a 2006 Mac Pro which still runs great, I'd like a new one but there's no way I'm forking out £2500 for a machine that's got essentially the same design as it did 10 years ago (geez has it been that long?!) and has specs that yes are good, but are grossly overpriced compared to other similarly-specced machines.
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I finally gave up and built a Hackintosh this weekend. i7, Gigabyte MOBO, Nvidia 650ti 2gb, 8gb ram, two 1tb drives... it is incredible. I can tell you Windows sucks, running on the first drive, but using a boot loader... boom MacOSX...perfect so far. $1500. Even got an email from Apple recognizing it as a MacPro. I am full of shame, I have owned at at least 50 macs since 1988, but the MacPro is in terrible condition. I probably wouldn't do it for mission critical work, but just to see if i could, and it is terrific.

There is just sooo much space between and iMac and Mac Pro that could be filled with a product if Apple wanted. I love the iMac design, but I need more then mobile graphics, hd space, and i don't need another monitor...
 
xnu said:
I finally gave up and built a Hackintosh this weekend. i7, Gigabyte MOBO, Nvidia 650ti 2gb, 8gb ram, two 1tb drives... it is incredible.
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I've often thought about doing the same, an iMac just doesn't cut it for me. I often fix people's PCs and Macs and need a direct SATA connection to extract data from damaged hard drives as USB just isn't upto the task. I completely agree something between the Mac Pro and iMac is needed, I'm in the same boat as you, I don't need another screen. I've pretty much got a hackintosh now, as ML is unsupported on the '06 Pro. Works absolutely perfectly though.

Perhaps Greenpeace will latch on to Apple's disposable computer fad and make them add some upgradeability, as Greenpeace are the only ones that seem able to get Apple to change their ways.

I wonder what Apple's engineers use to write their software. You can bet its not an iMac.
 
Guess the April/May Mac Pro rumors won't pan out? Cut the prices on those - then you'd move existing stock, and work up hype/excitement for whatever new handcuffed design is in the works... Either way, the pros are looking for other solutions at this point.
 
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