Don't ever compare your pointless drivel with the creativity and innovation that Jobs is responsible for. Making a stupid comment on the internet has no place anywhere near actual creativity.
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Tim Cooke:"Ladies n Gents we have One more thing, Mr.Steve Jobs"
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Don't ever compare your pointless drivel with the creativity and innovation that Jobs is responsible for. Making a stupid comment on the internet has no place anywhere near actual creativity.
There is a possibility Steve will present the iPhone 5, but there is a equal possibility that he won't.
I can compare whatever I wish to, seriously who are you to put restrictions on my thoughts or opinion. This thread has been created in a non-serious manner as I thought it would reflect the gut-feeling that some my have or wish to see happen. Nothing harmless and serious, if you do take yourself constantly that serious and important, you are free to. But also respect others who think otherwise.
I never compared my creativity directly with Jobs's. If you can read further then my actual words you would have figured out I put the emphesis on Creativity in general. Man these people, is your narrowmindness causing you to be this ignorant or your personal life, speaking of which....get one!
(One more thing! The Gestapotrain left town quite a while ago if you still sitting their waiting on it,move a long before you turn into an angry and bitter old fossil)
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He has every right to say what he said, and you have none to put him down for it. He can express his opinion in whatever form he wants. I, for one, enjoyed his post.
Moving on, I agree with most of you that Steve won't probably play a major role in the keynote. If it were a perfect world, Tim would come up on stage, deliver the majority of the keynote, and then he would say "But I have one more thing...here's Steve." Steve would come up. Steve would say his goodbyes, then as a farewell he would be the first one to show us the iPhone 5. But then he would pass it to Tim to show off the features - kind of a symbolic passing of the reins.
However, I don't think that would happen. I think the most likely thing is Tim and Phil and maybe a few other execs will run the keynote, introduce the iPhone with no help from Jobs. Maybe an appearance from him at the end to say goodbye, shake Tim's hand.
Thanks;-) Your scenario is certainly more realistic. Ah we shall see what happens eventually but knowing Apple they likely will use or do something nice with the Jobs situation.
Just because you value creativity so highly doesn't mean everyone does, maybe don't try to cram it down everyone's throat. People who aren't creative aren't zombies. On taking oneself too seriously, going back to edit an insult into your post 45 mins later against someone who disagreed with you pretty much puts you at the top of the list of people who take them selves too seriously... just a thought.
steve job make company rich . then company kick him out , what a joke , is this how american way
I really hope to see Steve Jobs do one last presentation, the announcement of the iPhone 5, and maybe a farewell note?
But i do believe that the resignation of Steve Jobs is the worst thing for Apple to conquer, and that if they can get over this massive bump, they'll be good for a very long time.
But i do believe that the resignation of Steve Jobs is the worst thing for Apple to conquer, and that if they can get over this massive bump, they'll be good for a very long time.
No I am sure Steve Jobs would be present at the keynote. He may not present but he WILL be there. He presented the iPad 2 although he was officially on leave and not acting CEO at the time.
Steve Jobs resigned from CEO and took on the position of chairman because he is unwell. He was not kicked out, well he was kicked out like 20 years ago but came back. I see the thread you made before which got wastelanded. Don't get so worked up about Jobs, it was not unexpected for him to resign it was a bit of a shock though.
HE WAS NOT KICKED OUT.
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Yes, something did change. Jobs is no longer CEO and Tim Cook is.
Yes, he was the CEO and it was appropriate for him to present. He's too smart a salesmen to have his presence overshadow Cook and the new products.
You must know something the entire world doesn't.
Why would he present? There is no point.
Creativity is within each and everyone of us, also in you. I do indeed think it's one of the important qualities one can have besides knowledge. Creativity has nothing to do with being Artsy or painting pictures and such. It's the foundation of a person to think and speak out his opinion on a personalized basis which reflects you as a unique person. To think and see things from a different perspective. If people wouldn't do this, everyone would have the same opinion and come up with the same ideas. Do you want to life in such a world?! It's also the basis of progression and innovation as new ideas and point of views are triggered by things we dream of or actually see in this world and give our own twist to it.
Therefor I do believe creativity is very valuable but I never shove it up someones throat, can you point out when and where I did that. I just speaked out my opinion. If you reffer to my quote, it's a metaphor or do you actually believe in zombies?! Einstein also valued imagination/creativity higher then knowledge. Knowledge is nice, everyone can learn, memorize or read up a line. Those who actually use it to bring it to another level or give it their own twist often tend to excel in their field or in this world.
I edited the text due to some misspellings and indeed wrote the last line in between. I got interrupted, I do also have other things to do you know, and came back maybe indeed 45 minutes later to save the edit. I do tend to write a bit sarcastic once in a while but what's wrong with that. As I think Sarcasm is a good and fun springboard to trigger ones creativiy. It's never done to damage anyone. Sometimes more serious and sometime a bit lighter, my threads and posts are made from the perspective to stimulate, to think further and deeper.
As we live in a free world I do not like to be restricted or being followed in each step of my handlings. I'm not also doing this to others.
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Well for a start:
I'm aware you were using a metaphor, I was continuing the use og the metaphor. Was that really difficult to understand? I also value creativity, but the point is that not everyone does. We're not in a dreamland though, creativity is nothing if there's no real work going on behind the scenes.
I don't really buy the whole editing story but that doesn't really matter. It's very difficult to convey sarcasm through text, maybe in future try make it more clear when your are trying to be sarcastic, as some people may take offence to it if they think you mean it in a literal sense.
You telling, you don't buy the editing story, is like telling I'm a liar. Why the hell would I lie about such a minor thing, to get my point? That would be so childish, believe me I may bazzle a lot but I never ever lie. Now that's quite an insult to me. If you don't have facts or good arguments and you only assume, it's probably better not to make such statements. Especially given the fact I was disturbed for something really important. Dude the reason why I am writing so much the last week is that I take care of my mother on her sickbed, which also means I do get interrupted a lot. I am telling this not look pathetic or feeled sorry for but because I value honesty and integrity even higher as creativity. Therefor I want to give you clear and good arguments on why I never ever should lie and the editing story was true.
The rest of your arguments I have no problem with and aren't quite relevant to me.
Can we now be friends and continue the actual discussion on why I started this thread
If Jobs keeps coming on stage for every keynote no one will pay attention to Tim Cook ever. I don't think they would like this to keep up forever. Sometimes you just have to let go and have the new guys run the show.
That image is pretty photoshopped. TMZ is a crappy news source.
They've to give Cook some time to be more prominent, especially since he's Apple's new CEO. He definitely needs to earn brownie points without being seen as the 'shadow' of Steve. In the future? Maybe. In the present? I doubt so. Give Cook more time to handle the ropes...
I think Muro's idea would be great to see at a keynote. It'll be a huge standing ovation, even a bigger one than the one we saw when the first iPhone was revealed at WWDC 2007.
Who says the CEO has to present all of the Keynote? No doubt it'll be the usual break up of the presentation with Phil and Scott taking equal parts.
I think Steve will come on during the Keynote, talk about how much faith he has in Tim Cook and the rest of Apple to continue doing the amazing job they are doing, and then he'll pass the baton to Tim again and say, "I'll hand it over to Tim who's going to unveil a really cool new product".
I think Steve will come on during the Keynote, talk about how much faith he has in Tim Cook and the rest of Apple to continue doing the amazing job they are doing, and then he'll pass the baton to Tim again and say, "I'll hand it over to Tim who's going to unveil a really cool new product".
True but he almost looked and sounded like he was going to faint on stage..
I hate to say this but I think it's almost the end for old stevie...
As far as I can remember Steve is just a man like you or I. Steve is not god and people still treat him like one..
I highly doubt TMZ is a crappy news source.. They knew about the Lindsey Lohan sentencing before the judge even said it on live TV. I remember the judge saying something about it how the judge can read about it on the internet during a recess when it was only between the lawyers and the judge what was going to happen.. Seems pretty good to me..
James
9to5mac says Steve will still be doing keynotes even though he isn't the CEO anymore.
http://9to5mac.com/2011/08/24/steve-jobs-resigns-as-ceo-of-apple/
http://9to5mac.com/2011/08/24/steve-jobs-resigns-as-ceo-of-apple/