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Because it's a bad metric to use. All Apple products are in limbo under him. Where is that passion for good products and experience? I only see obsession with thinness and making of unreasonable sacrifices in products.
How is it a bad metric to use? If people weren't buying and using Apple products the company wouldn't be generating the insane revenue and profits it is. How else do you measure? The things you mention are subjective. The only thing that's not subjective is profit and loss statements. Of course one can argue that financial statements are lagging indicators but I don't think you can base ones compensation on what you think the future might hold. Especially in the world of technology. I mean my god last year everyone and their mother was on the "bot" bandwagon and any company that wasn't all about bots was doomed. Now we hear hardly anything about bots because voice assistants are the new hot thing and the tech world has already declared Amazon the winner. Pretty soon the tech world will get bored with voice and move on to something else that every tech company has to be involved in or they're doomed. That's no way to determine an executives compensaion.
 
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"Apple noted it did not meet its target performance goals for both net sales and operating income in 2016,"

Jobs from 1995:

"They didn't have a clue about how to do it and they didn't take any time to find out because that's not what they cared about. They cared about making a lot of money. So they had this wonderful thing that a lot of brilliant people made called the Macintosh and they got very greedy. And instead of following the original trajectory of the original vision -- which was to make this thing an appliance, to get this out there to as many people as possible -- they went for profits and they made outlandish profits for about four years. Apple was one of the most profitable companies in America for about four years.

What that cost them was the future. What they should have been doing was making reasonable profits and going for market share, which was what we always tried to do.

Macintosh would have had a 33% market share right now, maybe even higher, maybe it would have even been Microsoft, but we'll never know. Now it's got a single-digit market share and falling. There's no way to ever get that moment in time back. The Macintosh will die in another few years and it's really sad."
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Great example.
 
Question: Were these product updates already somewhere in the pipeline when he took the reigns? Would Apple have performed BETTER under the leadership of someone else? How has he DIRECTLY influenced all of the above? How is the company situated for the long-term?

We will never know. Could have been better, could have been worse. No point arguing over a moot point that can never be proven or disputed.

Point is, Apple is doing well and Tim Cook deserves the credit, even if people are loathe to admit it.
 
I've grown weary of this smug, pontificating buffoon. I hope this salary is the last he'll get, and Apple will promptly change management.

Yup. Only made 8 MILLION dollars this year. That'll make him cram a USB A port onto the next MacBook Pro!
 
Yes it is. There is a tipping point he will soon reach.

Apple is making money now not because they have great products, but because of brand recognition and everything that comes with it. They should be making money because they have greatest products.


And I stopped having that feeling about Apple long time ago.
That's not a statement of fact that's your opinion.
 
I've never been a director level position at a huge corporation such as Apple. Would it be safe to say directors generally present their case/agenda to the CEO to decide?

I wonder if some of the unpopular hardware decisions/upgrades should fall on the shoulders of Dan Riccio.
Of course Cook has the final say, but I suspect he looks to each director for guidance and counsel.
 
But he didn't do any of that. He just gets to take the credit because he is a ceo.
It's fun to say that, but there's nothing to show that things would be the same or better if someone else was in charge, and it's possible they could be worse. So seems like he has in fact had something to do with a lot of it all.
 
All kinds of potential/probable reasons that don't have anything to do with gender or anything related to it.

Thanks for the complete non-answer.

I think she got some kind of bonus when they bought her out from Burberry. What I don't get is why the other execs get paid so much more than Tim Cook. Does Tim Cook get paid in stocks?

That’s a reasonable explanation. Although, I would expect a signing bonus to be much larger than a paltry $95,000.

Tim has a pretty nice stock option package. $378MM, awarded in 2011. Half vested in 2016, the othe half to be vested in 2021.

But at this level, it’s not about the salary and bonuses. It’s not about the money at all. When you have this much, you have all that you “need.” It’s about the game. The game of running the company.
 
It's fun to say that, but there's nothing to show that things would be the same or better if someone else was in charge, and it's possible they could be worse. So seems like he has in fact had something to do with a lot of it all.

I don't care about what didn't happen or what would have happened. I care about what is happening and what is happening has nothing to do with him. It has been set in motion long before that.
 
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But he didn't do any of that. He just gets to take the credit because he is a ceo.
Same as he gets "credit" for the lack of ports on the new MBP, no headphone jack on the new iPhone, and a myriad of other "Jobs is turning in his grave" scenarios. Ultimately, people need to realize that this is not a one man show.
 
But he didn't do any of that. He just gets to take the credit because he is a ceo.

Sure. Every year there's just someone pressing the "new phone" button, and out pops a phone from a non-descript rectangular machine in a corner. The phone, if left alone, then slowly turns to solid gold over time.

God, being CEO must be so easy. No wonder they don't hand out these positions along with free candy to everybody.
 
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You guys are so cringe. Apple doesn't meet goals, "Tim Cook has GOT to go!!!" Apple surpasses goals, "How do we know Tim Cook had anything to do with those successes, they could have been in the pipeline before he took over."
 
They've been incredibly profitable under his leadership, why would they fire a successful CEO who has increased profits, marketshare?

I may not be a fan of him, but using the metrics that business people use to measure success/failure. He's been an unabashed success.

He essentially has solved the "big company" problem for Apple, which in a nutshell is that large companies can't achieve the same growth as smaller companies, all else being equal. Thus, and especially in the tech sector, companies that grow very quickly as Apple did often plummet after that. So Cook should get credit for restructuring Apple and its finances to sustain the business legacy that Jobs left. He also brings tremendous supply-chain expertise (a huge thing for Apple, which routinely must acquire components in insanely high numbers, from all corners of the world, in near secrecy and extremely quickly) and has pushed into emerging and difficult markets very successfully. And it's not insignificant that Apple under his leadership has championed data secrecy and human rights in ways that have made a difference. All of this supports your point that Cook has been successful in many ways related to Apple's business.

But is that enough? I would argue that for Apple, it is not. First and most importantly, Apple's legacy is one of innovation, technically and culturally. Although Cook's Apple has innovated to a certain extent with the Apple Watch and the AirPods, none of this is "disruptive" in the way that Jobs achieved multiple times. Worse, Apple is squandering obvious advantages nearly everywhere one looks. Given how many people viewed the MacBook Air as a near-perfect consumer laptop, it's rather astonishing how Apple failed to realize many of that product's strengths when it created the MacBook. The same is true of the MacBook Pro line: the new computers are quite nice in many ways but they simply failed to deliver what the target audience wanted and expected to see. Software like Aperture (Apple's best software product ever, in my opinion), which could have served as a foundation for making Apple a truly dominant imaging/photography platform (including for consumers), was clumsily abandoned. Long-awaited products like the Apple TV were released with glaring issues, many of which ignored real-world concerns and some remain to this day. I of course could go on.

In addition, Apple's product lines are becoming increasingly confused and confusing -- one of the issues that nearly destroyed Apple just before Jobs returned. Who are the computers in Apple's laptop line targeted toward? It's increasingly unclear. What standards is Apple pushing? Lightning, one might have thought after the iPhone 7, only to see the laptops include a headphone jack and appear to advance other ports. Also, contrary to much popular mythology, Jobs was a proponent of industry-standard technology (particularly ports) where Apple's "invented here" offerings didn't offer a clear advantage. It was Jobs' Apple, after all, that championed USB as the replacement for several legacy ports when Apple released the original iMac. Cook could have done the same thing by using USB-C instead of Lightning on the iPhone, and this would have eased much of the headphone jack concern (because any new headphones people had to buy would at least rely on what Apple was advancing as an industry standard, available to all). Jobs also priced Apple's products fairly -- there were many instances in which the market was favorably impressed by a product priced lower than expected (the original iPad was the best example of this) and even where an "Apple Tax" existed, users understood why they were paying more. Not so now. And those things that Jobs didn't do well -- the cloud, for example -- have fared no better under Cook.

In my view, Cook probably was the right person for the job when he was hired. Apple needed someone who knew how to balance stability with structural change while positioning Apple for a sustained "big company" future. Cook did that. Now, what Apple needs is quite different: it needs a restoration of its "startup" ethos and it needs excitement. And it needs these things quickly: a widespread defection from a significant part of the "ecosystem" is now possible and would be extremely damaging. I believe Apple should celebrate what Cook has accomplished and respectfully show him the door.
 
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