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SeaChange

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Don't really know or care what Apple does with Macs, but is any one else moving on to other smartphones because Apple is determined to keep behind in technology? Of course the iPhone would be a full year behind on 4G just so they can "save" that as new feature for the 2012. That is all Apple does...release phones with outdated specs so then adding them later and calling it in upgrade when it has been other phones for ages. Just like the excuse of not having Flash...who cares if it will be obsolete soon if we still need it to browsing webpages today? /endrant
 

Goldinboy17

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Jun 21, 2010
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The flash arguement is getting really old. I have a few Android devices that run flash - it's NOT a big deal. I rarely come across a page webpage that requires it anyways. I can honestly say though that it hardly degrades performance, but I do prefer HTML5 and its seemless quality. I'm on AT&T so the 4G LTE wont' affect me. I can understand a Verizon users frustration though - I'd be pissed if the next iPhone didn't include HSPA+. If you want a phone that will be the best in the market for more than a few months you better keep dreaming. With the pace technology has been advancing a "better" phone is just around the corner. Personally though the iPhone is just too convenient for me to walk away from permanently. With it I'm guaranteed a phone that will be updated and simply work for at the very least a year and a half. Unless you're using a Nexus device it's a hit or miss with Android devices. You can always upgrade the ROM on your own but it can be a real pain the...
 

bruinsrme

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Oct 26, 2008
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Perhaps the lack of caring is apples desire to push to the post pc era.

There are several website (non-porn) that use flash and are inaccessible on the iPad or iPhone.

Apples reluctance to include levels the playing field as we will be open to chose a new service provider and phones in September .
 

SeaChange

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Nov 21, 2010
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I've read that the reason the are not looking at LTE is because the Qualcom chip does not meet the power requirements yet.


No LTE iPhone in 2011 Because There’s No LTE

Why No LTE iPhone For Now? “Design Compromises” Apple Would Not Make.

Do some research before you rant.

Still not an acceptable reason. It would be acceptable if Apple updated phones more often than once a year. And yes I know my phone will never be on top of technology scale for long, but the next iPhone will already be outdated before it is even released and that is unacceptable.

Oh yeah how about giving us a choice of larger screens as well. I'm tired of sub 4 inch screens as well.

I have owned every iPhone so far, but Apple is not keeping up with its competitors.
 

EvanLugh

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Still not an acceptable reason. It would be acceptable if Apple updated phones more often than once a year. And yes I know my phone will never be on top of technology scale for long, but the next iPhone will already be outdated before it is even released and that is unacceptable.

Oh yeah how about giving us a choice of larger screens as well. I'm tired of sub 4 inch screens as well.

I have owned every iPhone so far, but Apple is not keeping up with its competitors.

you know what to do then.. stop preaching and get moving ;)
 

mojohanna

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Not everyone wants to carry around a sub tablet phone in their pocket with a 4.5"screen. Just because it is your preference does not mean that Apple is behind in technology.

4G is in such limited areas that a good portion of the buying public won't be able to take advantage of it anyway.

So, your two main arguments, at least in my book, hold no water. Specifications, while they do make a difference, to some, don't guarantee a solid and seamless user experience. That is what you are getting in an iphone, regardless of its specs.

My wife has a 4 and I a 3gs. Sure, I am jealous of the camera flash and the higher quality pictures as well as her ability to face time from the phone. But at the end of the day, we can accomplish 90% of the same tasks with phones that are not "up to spec" as you claim.

You don't have to have the best specs to have the best market share. You have to appeal to the largest number of consumers to do so. Regardless of what you think, Apple is doing just that.
 

RafaelT

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Jun 9, 2010
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Not everyone wants to carry around a sub tablet phone in their pocket with a 4.5"screen. Just because it is your preference does not mean that Apple is behind in technology.

4G is in such limited areas that a good portion of the buying public won't be able to take advantage of it anyway.

So, your two main arguments, at least in my book, hold no water. Specifications, while they do make a difference, to some, don't guarantee a solid and seamless user experience. That is what you are getting in an iphone, regardless of its specs.

My wife has a 4 and I a 3gs. Sure, I am jealous of the camera flash and the higher quality pictures as well as her ability to face time from the phone. But at the end of the day, we can accomplish 90% of the same tasks with phones that are not "up to spec" as you claim.

You don't have to have the best specs to have the best market share. You have to appeal to the largest number of consumers to do so. Regardless of what you think, Apple is doing just that.

Agreed!

Welcome to the world of yesterday, worrying about specs. A few years ago specs were everything, from computers to phones. The software was ahead of the hardware and the speed of the processor, etc, really mattered, it actually determined how fast things ran. Hardware has outpaced software. You don't need to have the latest specs (you still need decent specs, but not the latest) anymore to run software and have an awesome user experience.

My iPhone provides me with an awesome experience, a fantastic screen and really good battery life, especially compared to some of the competition. I don't care what is inside that case as long as it works.

As for LTE... Other phone makers have been putting LTE chips in their phones for a while now so why can't Apple? Apple can't because they are not going to put out a phone that has 4 hour battery life. Verizon is also not a representation of the entire world and most of the world really is not very far into the roll out of LTE. Waiting a year before putting LTE into the phone.. if they even end up doing that... is really not going to hold too many people back from using a technology available to them.

Huge screens suck. That is my opinion. Everyone likes different screen sizes and if you don't like the size that the iPhone has obviously it's not the right phone for you so why are you even complaining about it, go find the right phone. The only increase in size I would be ok with is one that does not make the form factor any bigger.

Flash is a mess. I have used Windows and Mac for many years. Flash has always been one of the buggiest most annoying part of that experience. Adobe is just now starting to get things to a point where it seems like maybe it has moved out of beta. I don't want it on my phone and I would love to see it go away forever.

You pay more for Apple products because for the most part it gives you a much better user experience then the competition. In terms of the hardware part of that experience Apple does this by picking the best hardware for the job and the best hardware is not always the newest hardware.

If you are not happy about the iPhone you can do to productive things. 1. Submit your feedback to Apple. 2. Get a new phone.
 

itsmemuffins

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Jun 23, 2010
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Don't really know or care what Apple does with Macs, but is any one else moving on to other smartphones because Apple is determined to keep behind in technology? Of course the iPhone would be a full year behind on 4G just so they can "save" that as new feature for the 2012. That is all Apple does...release phones with outdated specs so then adding them later and calling it in upgrade when it has been other phones for ages. Just like the excuse of not having Flash...who cares if it will be obsolete soon if we still need it to browsing webpages today? /endrant


so long farewell auf wiedersehen goodbye
 

BlindMellon

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Apr 4, 2011
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And yes I know my phone will never be on top of technology scale for long, but the next iPhone will already be outdated before it is even released and that is unacceptable.

The man speaks the truth. If Apple doesn't step up their game this year, the iPhone will be seen as the Volkswagon of cell phones. "it just works" can only carry you so far.
 

nizmoz

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Jul 7, 2008
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The iPhone just works and works great. I went to an EVO and hated it after 3 months especially how bad many of the apps ran. I wanted a phone that worked well and also worked well for multitasking with good battery life. I went back to the iPhone and probably will stay with them for a while again. Even though apple is behind in some things their stuff works better.


Sent from my AT&T iPhone 4 using Tapatalk
 

nizmoz

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Jul 7, 2008
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The man speaks the truth. If Apple doesn't step up their game this year, the iPhone will be seen as the Volkswagon of cell phones. "it just works" can only carry you so far.

VW is not behind so not sure why you would say that?


Sent from my AT&T iPhone 4 using Tapatalk
 

SeaChange

macrumors regular
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Nov 21, 2010
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Not everyone wants to carry around a sub tablet phone in their pocket with a 4.5"screen. Just because it is your preference does not mean that Apple is behind in technology.

4G is in such limited areas that a good portion of the buying public won't be able to take advantage of it anyway.

So, your two main arguments, at least in my book, hold no water. Specifications, while they do make a difference, to some, don't guarantee a solid and seamless user experience. That is what you are getting in an iphone, regardless of its specs.

My wife has a 4 and I a 3gs. Sure, I am jealous of the camera flash and the higher quality pictures as well as her ability to face time from the phone. But at the end of the day, we can accomplish 90% of the same tasks with phones that are not "up to spec" as you claim.

You don't have to have the best specs to have the best market share. You have to appeal to the largest number of consumers to do so. Regardless of what you think, Apple is doing just that.

Yes. Apple is doing a great job of appealing to the lowest common denominator. iPhone...the new Razr.
 

SeaChange

macrumors regular
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Nov 21, 2010
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It is good to have choices
Seems like you have made yours

Yep, there is absolutley no way I'm sticking with Apple in 2011...maybe I'll come after back after a year of giving Android a try. We'll see how that goes.

Hey when did you graduate from UGA? I went there too.
 

erayser

macrumors 65816
Apr 9, 2011
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1,184
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I use a 4G LTE mifi device, and I think it's to early for a 4G iPhone. Last night, my wife and I was driving around, looking for a scenic spot that had a 4G signal, so we can enjoy dessert with a view, and stream a movie on my iPad 2. The only signal we could get is 3G, and since it was Verizon 3G, Netfilix was unusable for some reason last night. Browsing was fine, but streaming wasn't working out. We ended up watching the movie on my iPhone with AT&T 3G. I really like my 4G LTE mifi, but I can't always depend on getting a 4G LTE signal everywhere I go. If a 4G iPhone came ou this year... with my personal experience with 4G, I would most likely skip it.
 

QuarterSwede

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Oct 1, 2005
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The man speaks the truth. If Apple doesn't step up their game this year, the iPhone will be seen as the Volkswagon of cell phones. "it just works" can only carry you so far.
You two are forgetting the biggest selling point of the iPhone, the App Store. That's why the iPhone is so popular, not because of it's specs.
 

iApples

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Still not an acceptable reason. It would be acceptable if Apple updated phones more often than once a year. And yes I know my phone will never be on top of technology scale for long, but the next iPhone will already be outdated before it is even released and that is unacceptable.

Oh yeah how about giving us a choice of larger screens as well. I'm tired of sub 4 inch screens as well.

I have owned every iPhone so far, but Apple is not keeping up with its competitors.

Go buy an Android device... You'll get everything you want. Different choices, new phones every 3 days... Oh and don't forget the 4G network that will destroy your battery.

Enjoy.
 

dudeabiding

macrumors 6502
Aug 24, 2009
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Consumer choice is just that- a personal choice. If an iPhone doesn't meet your needs, don't use one. But I see no reason to try to convince anyone else that THEIR choice is bad just because it is not YOUR choice. It's an opinion, and like art or music or films or favorite body type, it is just an opinion that someone (in this case, you) has. There is no "best," because each person has different needs, uses, and preferences. If the iPhone only came in fuschia, it wouldn't be "best" for me. But as things stand, I like its color and its functions- they suit MY needs, uses and preferences.

Oh, and I really liked my RAZR. In some ways, it was a better phone (PHONE!) than my i4. Again, opinion. Everyone has got one, and everyone thinks theirs is right (that is the less colorful version).
 
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