too bad nobody wants to develop on a nokia phone.![]()
Um, there is HUGE number of apps available for Nokia-phones, and comments like that reek of ignorance. Just to give you an idea:
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116 pages of apps....
too bad nobody wants to develop on a nokia phone.![]()
Needless to say I was laughing hysterically and pointing at the device in ridicule within the first minutes of using it. It has been a long time since I have had the displeasure of using such a steaming pile of crap.
Your post once again proves that a device is more than the simple sum of its parts.Anyways did you laugh at the 5 MP camera. I mean the 2 MP one in iPhone is so much more impressive. Had a good laugh about the 3G chip which doesn't exist in iPhone? What about the GPS chip, I'm sure that gave you a good laugh! Flash and Java in web browser? Surely that gave you the giggles? TV out? The 3,5mm jack that you can use with any headphones?
What I'm curious to know is how soon after they launched their first device Nokia and RIM had SDKs available.Um, there is HUGE number of apps available for Nokia-phones, and comments like that reek of ignorance. Just to give you an idea:[/url]
Your post once again proves that a device is more than the simple sum of its parts.
What's the point of using really great subcomponents if many people find the UI unintuitive and slow to use, the physical form factor to be bulky, and battery life that rapidly declines the more you use the additional features?![]()
Calling with the iPhone:
After pressing the button below the display or the power key, unlocking the device, moving fingers across the display, tapping the Phone icon, we get straight into… The place you end up in actually depends on your luck – the Phone application comes with 5 tabs – Favorites, Recent Calls, Contacts, Keyboard, Voice mail. This handset memorizes the last tab you were in and then upon re-entering the application calls up this tab. For other applications this approach can do some good, but in a mobile phone that has dumped all hardware keys, such a solution is more than just odd. The keypad is what all phones have in common, and normally we tend to call more often than do something else with our handsets. Probably, the fact that LG and Samsung have finally awoken to this has made for pick/hang up buttons in the Prada and the Armani. These Korean makers have not forgotten what the handset is all about – calls.
Anyway, in the iPhone that Phone application is three clicks away, and then you will usually need another tap to enable the keypad or some other apps, like the phonebook or favorites.
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Some of you guys crack me up. Apple can make whatever kind of device they want. Just because you buy it as it is, doesn't mean they then have to change it to suit your needs. Who are they controlling?
I just bought my shiny new iPhone. Thank God it hasn't ibricked yet. Yes, I installed a 3rd party app. The ONLY reason I did this is that the new iPhone doesn't have the simplest of applications: chat. For God's sake! Even my crappy Motorola flip phone had that! So, I resorted to installing an available 3rd party application. I haven't unlocked it to go on another network. Why bother? No other network has the technology for the phone. I just switched to AT&T for this phone and so far have been impressed with their support.
I can understand Apple not supporting hacked/unlocked iPhones, but to actively target and destroy someone's hardware through an update, that they have paid for is beyond reprehensible.
So, Clonenode, I want to know what makes you think ANYONE is expecting Apple to change the phone to suit their needs??? We just want Apple to leave it the hell alone. I can understand if we were putting software on the phone that was causing problems for Apple, but no one is doing that. In fact, those that are buying the iPhone are more than likely already fans of Apple and their products. Your ignorance in believing that people that buy a piece of hardware and actually want to do with it as they wish are somehow wrong is completely stupid. Look at it this way. How would you feel if you bought a computer from Dell and Dell told you you could only install applications made by or supplied by Dell? What a pile of crap that would be huh?
The company brought in 10 testers who had never used any of the three devices. It then asked the testers to perform a series of tasks on each device with quantifiable results, such as the time needed to find and use the on/off switch. Other tasks included setting the phone to vibrate, making a call, saving a phone number to the contact list, sending a brief e-mail, taking a photo and finding a Web site using the device's built-in browser.
I think this is what you're not taking into consideration when you knock the iPhones UI."People can eventually learn to use any device," Ballew said. "But that's not true usability. We wanted to see how long it took to figure out how to use the phones. That's the difference between learnability and usability."
Let's cut to the bottom line: In terms of usability, iPhone blew away its two competitors. Its overall score in the usability tests was 4.6 out of 5. The HTC Touch was a distant second at 3.4, and the Nokia N95 scored 3.2.
"Testers were [typically] about twice as fast doing specific tasks on the iPhone, which is pretty remarkable," Thornton said.
The Nokia N95, however, suffered from too much complexity, even for basic tasks.
"People had a hard time turning it on," Thornton said. "Only 30% of our sample group could turn it on right away."
Once turned on, navigation was confusing to some users.
"You can access different menus from different locations, which can be disorienting," Ballew said. "And common features are hard to find -- turning the sound down, putting it on vibrate, things like that."
Functionality refers to what some consider the meat and potatoes of the device -- its applications and how complex and customizable they are. It also refers to the quality of subsystems within the device, such as the camera. In this area, the Nokia was the clear leader.
"It has a really nice feature set," Ballew said. On the other hand, he stressed, its strong feature set contributed to its relatively poor usability scores in previous categories.
"It's right on the verge of feature bloat," he said. "I mean, I'm not sure when I'd ever use the bar-code scanner. And some of the features are hard to set up." In particular, Ballew said it took four hours to set up Wi-Fi on the N95, which was a fast, simple task on both the HTC Touch and the iPhone.
Sure if you can put up with Symbian...no thanks!!Um, there is HUGE number of apps available for Nokia-phones, and comments like that reek of ignorance.
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I think the problem is in characterizing their efforts the way you do.
Is it Apple's responsibility to contact the hackers, get their code and test it for compatability with their updates?
The people you should be reserving your ire for is the hackers who obviously didn't do proper testing on the software they distributed.
too bad nobody wants to develop on a nokia phone.![]()
Hi,
welcome to the internet!
just a tip: writing in all caps means you are yelling, and doesn't make people appreciate your points any better, and makes you seem abrasive, just like yelling in real life
That's the whole point. The review you link to is someone's personal review of the iPhone. The link I gave was to a usability survey conducted by research scientists (subsequently published by Computerworld).Check the review I posted a link to. They ask people to do very basic stuff with the N95 and iPhone. People do the things with the N95 about twice as fast..![]()
Or maybe they weren't quite sure which of the following clearly labeledAnd seriously, if 70% of people have a hard time turning the device on. Well their test group must consist of mentally retarded people.
yeah i believe to photoshop... good eye i zoomed in on the immage and you can see the pixels change around the letters and some of the images..
everyone email sjobs@apple.com and let them know that they broke the DMCA by not allowing unlocked phones to stay unlocked! Not only that but they made these iPhones completely useless! (at $4-600/phone, with 1% of people unlocking them, thats nearly $60,000,000 in damages!) LAWSUIT
This evening I went to Nokia's store in NYC to look for an iphone alternative. I'm fed up with the whole iphone/Apple/ATT BS crap and would like to get out all this.
I was going to check out the E61i but after playing with it for an hour there's NO way that I can ever move from my iphone to that User interface - it's a total mess, is slow to navigate, complicated to figure out and just plain user-hostile. The keyboard, which people have raved about, felt awful to me too. In terms of functionality, it beats the iphone in most respects, but without a sleek, smooth UI to take advantage, it's more trouble than it's worth.
Like I said, the N95 is one of the best pieces of equipment out there. That does *not* make it easy for the average person to use, and I think the article I linked to proves that point a lot better than your article does.
So where's the power button? Is it...
II can understand Apple not supporting hacked/unlocked iPhones, but to actively target and destroy someone's hardware through an update, that they have paid for is beyond reprehensible.
The link I gave was to a usability survey conducted by research scientists (subsequently published by Computerworld).
Like I said, the N95 is one of the best pieces of equipment out there. That does *not* make it easy for the average person to use, and I think the article I linked to proves that point a lot better than your article does.
everyone email sjobs@apple.com and let them know that they broke the DMCA by not allowing unlocked phones to stay unlocked! Not only that but they made these iPhones completely useless! (at $4-600/phone, with 1% of people unlocking them, thats nearly $60,000,000 in damages!) LAWSUIT
I read your posts, and all I can say is this!
SIMPLE:
IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD AT&T SERVICE AND NEED TO HACK YOUR IPHONE TOO BAD, GO TO ANOTHER CARRIER. TMOBILE WILL BE HAPPY TO TAKE YOU. GET YOUR NOKIA PHONE AND HAVE A GOOD LIFE.
IF YOU CAN'T AFFORD THE IPHONE OR WANT CUSTOM HACKS STOP COMPLAINING BUY A DIFFERENT PHONE.
IF YOU DON'T LIKE APPLE'S POLICIES....GO BY ANOTHER VENDORS
BASICS 101