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1$ a ringtone.. that's innovation :p


Anyways did you laugh at the 5 MP camera. I mean the 2 MP one in iPhone is so much more impressive. Had a good laugh about the 3G chip which doesn't exist in iPhone? What about the GPS chip, I'm sure that gave you a good laugh! Flash and Java in web browser? Surely that gave you the giggles? TV out? The 3,5mm jack that you can use with any headphones?


I've been laughing at this and this a lot lately ;)

Yeah, I laughed of it all because N95 is a piece of poorly constructed ***** with even worse software and the worst UI of any mobile manufacturer. Tech geeks can quote spec sheets all day long, I don't care. Unlike tech geeks I don't get off by what I read off of a piece of paper, rather I like to have the device in my hand and make up my mind by using it.

I tested the N95 and tried all of its "touted" functions, though it sure did make a fine effort of preventing me by crashing on me more than a PC running Windows ME. But the verdict was in pretty early on, Nokia might have 40% of the market now but if they don't shape up in a major way they will only see that number grow slimmer and slimmer. Apple I imagine could easily get the lions share of whatever Nokia looses if they wanted to.
 
Yeah, I laughed of it all because N95 is a piece of poorly constructed ***** with even worse software and the worst UI of any mobile manufacturer.

Worst UI of all mobile manufacturer? Please be a little bit more informative. What did you like? Nothing? What did you dislike? Everything? Have you tried out all UIs of all manufacturers? Give examples of what sucked..

Tech geeks can quote spec sheets all day long, I don't care. Unlike tech geeks I don't get off by what I read off of a piece of paper, rather I like to have the device in my hand and make up my mind by using it.

Yeah it's just that there's not that much to use in iPhone when compared with N95.


I tested the N95 and tried all of its "touted" functions, though it sure did make a fine effort of preventing me by crashing on me more than a PC running Windows ME.

So what firmware version was it running on? N95 has never crashed on me and I've had mine since April or something.


But the verdict was in pretty early on, Nokia might have 40% of the market now but if they don't shape up in a major way they will only see that number grow slimmer and slimmer.

Actually Nokia's market share is increasing all the time..


Apple I imagine could easily get the lions share of whatever Nokia looses if they wanted to.

Not. You know N95 has sold more than iPhone and sure it was sold all around the world instead of USA alone but still.. especially when you consider that it's more expensive than the iPhone and just one out of 100s of phones in Nokia's portfolio.

But yeah, dream on fanboy. I'm guessing you've never even touched N95..
 
Worst UI of all mobile manufacturer? Please be a little bit more informative. What did you like? Nothing? What did you dislike? Everything? Have you tried out all UIs of all manufacturers? Give examples of what sucked..

Sorry to butt in... but I could let this pass without casting my vote for worst UI, a few years back my wife had a Motorola, boy was that terrible!!!:eek: Once you had typed out a text message you had to press about 17 buttons just to send the damn thing!
 
I love it!!!!!

Why? Because WE ALL WIN. This makes Nokia work harder, which makes Apple work harder. So from both camps, this is a very good thing. I'm glad another cell co. took notice of Apple. Thank you.
 
I love it!!!!!

Why? Because WE ALL WIN. This makes Nokia work harder, which makes Apple work harder. So from both camps, this is a very good thing. I'm glad another cell co. took notice of Apple. Thank you.

Fair point, they must feel fairly intimidated by apple's product to take this sort of action. I have owned a few nokia's but switched to sony erricsson as I thought all nokia's phones were getting a bit samey. The N95 is probably the first nokia since the 7110 to really make me look again.
 
I love it!!!!!

Why? Because WE ALL WIN. This makes Nokia work harder, which makes Apple work harder. So from both camps, this is a very good thing. I'm glad another cell co. took notice of Apple. Thank you.
Now that is the most sensible thing I've heard anyone say in this thread. We can argue all day long about N95 vs. iPhone features and UI, but as you say, any good features or innovation from any side will end up benefitting everyone eventually, no matter what phone they get. Hopefully manufacturers will take the best bits from everything and fold them into their new products.

But I do have to say, let's remember the iPhone is a brand new platform with a lot of room to grow and though it's closed now, that doesn't mean it always will be. Perhaps Apple just wants to get started with an easier to maintain closed system before jumping in all the way, since they are a brand new player starting from scratch in this vicious market of mobile phones.
 
Worst UI of all mobile manufacturer? Please be a little bit more informative. What did you like? Nothing? What did you dislike? Everything? Have you tried out all UIs of all manufacturers? Give examples of what sucked..



Yeah it's just that there's not that much to use in iPhone when compared with N95.




So what firmware version was it running on? N95 has never crashed on me and I've had mine since April or something.




Actually Nokia's market share is increasing all the time..




Not. You know N95 has sold more than iPhone and sure it was sold all around the world instead of USA alone but still.. especially when you consider that it's more expensive than the iPhone and just one out of 100s of phones in Nokia's portfolio.

But yeah, dream on fanboy. I'm guessing you've never even touched N95..

You bore me. I make games for mobile phones for a living, here at the office we have somewhere between 50-100 mobile phones, all thrown together in boxes. Although we write games for Java, which theoretically should mean that one jar should work on all handsets the reality is that differences in performance and screen resolution and most of all buggy Java implementations force us to test on each and every device.

I have tried more mobile phones that you could ever dream of, that is if the dream was not more of a nightmare. Who makes the best handsets? SONY-Ericsson hands down, among the normal handset manufacturers (anyone not Apple) they do everything right. Who has the worst UI and platform, well the poo award will have to go to Nokia with the their S60 platform. Ask anyone at the office, they will tell you the same and throw in LG and Samsung for buggy software.

I am not going to give you a point for point list of bad things with the Nokia S60 UI. Why? Because if you have truly had an iPhone and a N95 in your hand and used them each for 10 minutes and still think the N95 is da shizzle then you are beyond help. You are one of those techgeeks that have a certain fetish for high technology that you have long lost all touch with the reality that ordinary consumers are faced with when they struggle with bad design in electronics.

Like the people who love Linux or work at Microsoft you are impervious to bad design, congratulations. I however put design above anything else, everything from the cheap flimsy plastic feel of the N95 to the horribly bad menu, performance and UI of the the device irks me.

I don't give a flying monkey fart how many handsets Nokia has sold, if volume alone was the merit by which we measured quality then by god, Microsoft would surely be the pantheon of all things great. We all know how false that statement is, nuff said.
 
You bore me. I make games for mobile phones for a living, here at the office we have somewhere between 50-100 mobile phones, all thrown together in boxes. Although we write games for Java, which theoretically should mean that one jar should work on all handsets the reality is that differences in performance and screen resolution and most of all buggy Java implementations force us to test on each and every device.

Yet you had your first experiences with the N95 just a while back. I call ********. I bet you're just some highschool kiddy.


I have tried more mobile phones that you could ever dream of, that is if the dream was not more of a nightmare. Who makes the best handsets? SONY-Ericsson hands down, among the normal handset manufacturers (anyone not Apple) they do everything right. Who has the worst UI and platform, well the poo award will have to go to Nokia with the their S60 platform. Ask anyone at the office, they will tell you the same and throw in LG and Samsung for buggy software.

Once again you throw in incredible details.. besides the OS shouldn't really matter a flying **** if you do Java games.


Like the people who love Linux or work at Microsoft you are impervious to bad design, congratulations. I however put design above anything else, everything from the cheap flimsy plastic feel of the N95 to the horribly bad menu, performance and UI of the the device irks me.

And the details just keep on coming. If you really were a programmer you would appreciate Linux. Just goes to show your background if nothing else..
 
Hmmm... I heard Nokia were deciding on what to do about the iPhone. At least they listen to what the customers want. Most Nokia N Series devices are still as expensive as the iPhone though, although you do get a better deal network/minutes/offers-wize.
 
If I was Nokia, I'd probably try to exploit this mess too. I don't blame them for trying.

I don't think it matters to the majority thought, because the "real majority" wants an iPhone that does what APPLE designed it to do.
 
I've always liked my Nokia phones. Those N95's are $749 though (ouch)... :(

Or completely free in the UK from Apple's favourite Carphone Warehouse :)
It's a popular phone; how many customers will be willing to sacrifice features they already have to "upgrade" to the iPhone, which costs them more? N95 for free and UKP35 call package, or iPhone for UKP 269 and UKP35 call package?
 
Sorry to butt in... but I could let this pass without casting my vote for worst UI, a few years back my wife had a Motorola, boy was that terrible!!!:eek: Once you had typed out a text message you had to press about 17 buttons just to send the damn thing!

My dad also has a Motorola (one of the cheap ones) and I used to have one and I can tall you exclusively that they suck. They are good fashion accessorys but thats just about it really. Nokia phones, especially the N Series and Series 60 platform smartphones, they rock! I used to use my 6600 until recently. Nokia phones are also very strong. I drop mine all the time and its fine, im sending a text on it now. Samsung phones really suck though, I dropped my D500 twice on a carpet and it broke. Half the buttons dont work and the screen displays upside down and reflected, with messed up colours. So if I turn it upside down and look at it in a mirror and dont use the middle blue button, the C key, the green phone key or the left and right scroll buttons, I can still use it!
 
I always liked Nokias...those Finns are some smart people.

Nothing wrong with Nokia filling one niche and Apple filling another.
 
Yet you had your first experiences with the N95 just a while back. I call ********. I bet you're just some highschool kiddy.




Once again you throw in incredible details.. besides the OS shouldn't really matter a flying **** if you do Java games.




And the details just keep on coming. If you really were a programmer you would appreciate Linux. Just goes to show your background if nothing else..

Jesus, the morons one meets on the internet. I mean really. You deserve a N95, damn frigtard.
 
Jesus, the morons one meets on the internet. I mean really.

Tell me about it. Now go play school kiddo :p

Tell me what this very simple class does and I give you a little credit:

import java.util.Scanner;

public class Something {
private static Scanner zzz = new Scanner(System.in);

public static void main(String[] args) {
System.out.println("What is this, zero does what?");
int i = zzz.nextInt();
while (i != 0) {
System.out.println("WOOT: "+i*2);
i = zzz.nextInt();
}
System.out.println("So that's that.");
}
}

;)


edit.

It's been about a day now.. even if you answer it's suspicious. So consider yourself caught kiddo :eek:
 
Nokia & touch screens

I don't really get your point considering that Nokia has lots of experience with touch screens (Nokia 7700, 7710, N770 and N800 - and their GPS navigator N300). Even Nokia's S60 user interface for Symbian has supported touch screens for some years although Nokia hasn't yet used touch screens in their S60 smartphones.

If we forget the design of iPhone, it's nothing more but a mediocre mobile phone with a "cool" UI and touchscreen. A high-end S60 smartphone (with or without a touch screen) is a completely different story.

It's true that the current S60 UI is optimised for "normal" keypad and non-touch screen - but this will be changing in the future... ;)
 
Nope...nothing I've seen to date match up with safari on iPhone....and iTunes support is a must for me!

Then you haven't seen much :D

What goes for iTunes. It's okay on Macs.. on Windows it's plain ****, even worse than Quicktime and Real.
 
S60: browsers & iTunes support

Nope...nothing I've seen to date match up with safari on iPhone....and iTunes support is a must for me!
S60 smartphones have a wide range of mobile browsers available: e.g. Nokia's S60 Browser, Opera Mobile, Opera Mini (Java program). Opera Mini's coming 4th version will offer a Safari/S60 Browser like user experience for non-touch screen (and non-smartphones). BTW, the native S60 browsers support Flash. (Windows Mobile version of Opera Mobile even supports touch screens.)

Nokia's N and E series smartphones (i.e. most of their smartphones) are able to sync DRM-free songs with iTunes. There's even a Mac version!
 
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