Folks who post things like "more over processed photos!" just need to learn to hold the iPhone camera still in adequate light and to shoot RAW. Voila, no more over processed photos!
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Indeed. The good news is that the useless screen captures are easily deleted.If there is a new button hopefully it can be programmed for the screen capture buttons to make it harder to accidentally capture the screen.📱📸👇
If the phone over processes anything but RAW images taken in perfect lighting, that's pretty bad and probably something that warrants complaining about/fixing.
First off, no one said perfect lighting was necessary; the word adequate was used. Choosing RAW is recommended as a very simple choice if one wants to help minimize processing, since JPEG captures by definition mean heavier computer processing and much less image data captured. So no, it is not "pretty bad and probably something that warrants complaining about/fixing."
Poor technique (and it is often in my observation very poor technique) forces an iPhone's computational photography to correct for the poor technique as it attempts to provide a viewable image capture. The totally logical result is an image that looks over processed. The solution is for users to learn how to hold the phone still and pay attention to having adequate light, not "something that warrants complaining about/fixing."
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The second camera control rumor is hilarious to me because that would mean another year of case makers having to have trouble with cases again, it'll be cut outs on top with the buttons on the side.
My mistake, although I've noticed over processing in more-than-adequate lighting, so that's not really true in my experience.
Not great for non-Pro models, where RAW isn't an option. It also shouldn't be necessary though. Older iPhones (eg iPhone 7 Plus) could take photos in similar conditions and far more usable and less over-processed results. This is, in fact, a problem to be fixed.
I disagree.
I'm a fairly competent hobbyist photographer, and have experience working on shoots with professional photographers and videographers. In understand how to use lighting, etc. I've also taken a ton of great shots on a range of different setups, from iPhones to Androids to Windows phones, Sony, Canon, Nikon, etc. I'm not saying this to say I'm a great photographer, just that I'm more competent than an average person, and on modern iPhones, the processing is heavy-handed and bad.
You can see the AI schmultz when you zoom in on signs, you can see fur and hair looking weird and unnatural, etc. I've compared photos between my 7 Plus and 13 and noticed that in many ways the 13 was better, but has brutal processing that can often ruin a shot that the 7 Plus captured no problem. (and yes, before you mention it, I've also taken RAW shots on Pro phones. The bad processing is still there.)
It absolutely needs fixing.
I shoot in RAW on my 16PM (people, signs, buildings, beaches, cars, dogs, etc, etc), process in Lightroom, and don't see what you're describing.
From what I've read,almost nobody uses it. I certainly don't. I feel like I read something that Apple can tell that people aren't using it at all.
Seems like they want to double down on a bad decision, but what do I know.
For the love of God I'm hoping for 2TB as much as anything else. Mostly just because of the way iCloud Photos works. Specifically the "Optimize" for storage option. iCloud either lets you keep all or nothing. Now my photo library has grown so big that on my 1TB phone with all the other things I have 10gb of space. If they don't come out with a 2TB option, I'm just getting the base Pro storage option as there wouldn't be any advantage to a 1TB phone once I have to turn on "Optimize iCloud Photos"
Switch to heic or joeg and you'll see the overprocessing...
Why would I do that when RAW is available and I've been using Adobe Lightroom since 2007?
The person I responded to stated: "and yes, before you mention it, I've also taken RAW shots on Pro phones. The bad processing is still there."
Well, most people do not use raw, so the complaint of over processing is real. And proraw does some processing too.
I believe Halide has a "true" raw option.
Are you using the stock camera app or 3rd party?
It is ridiculous the space that iphone raw files require. My R5 II shoots raw with much higher quality and they occupy only around 18MB.
The phone should be able to take natural looking jpgs, without the horrible fake HDR look and the over sharpening.
Project Indigo shoots very nice looking jpg, and it has tons of computational photography, but its done in the right, natural way, not trying to artificially extend the dynamic range and make everything look flat and overexposed fake skintones.
The phone should be able to take natural looking jpgs, without the horrible fake HDR look and the over sharpening.
Project Indigo shoots very nice looking jpg, and it has tons of computational photography, but its done in the right, natural way, not trying to artificially extend the dynamic range and make everything look flat and overexposed fake skintones.
I hope the rumored "second camera control button" was just added to troll MR readers. 🤣
I’m sorry could you please go into much more detail here? Fascinating post. I’m on a 500 gig 16 PM and am trying to use my phone/iCloud storage best. I USE 2 tb I cloud btw..
I like the Action button (which I use solely for the flashlight). The 16 camera button not so much - since it's touch-sensitive, it can't be covered by the case like the volume or action buttons. Instead, the case is dished out around the button and the tip of one's index finger must curl over the case edge and down into "button valley". It's not a comfortable UE. While I admit it's not Apple's fault that my case hinders use their button, they know, darn well, that naked iPhones are in the minority.
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Cool, I guess? That doesn't mean the issue doesn't exist. And it still completely ignores that RAW isn't an option on a huge number of iPhones.
What it means is I get superb results and make outstanding prints. As do my photographer friends. If you’re not getting the same you might consider digging a little deeper to understand why that is.
Regarding not all phones having RAW capability, well, that’s a personal choice. If you’re willing to accept less image quantity, by all means save some money and get a less expensive phone.
I understand why it is — harsh over-processing on Apple's part — I've been quite clear so I'm not sure why that's not getting through to you.
I get great shots with my camera and with older iPhones, and can occasionally still get great shots on my 13. But the post-processing is still pretty harsh and can mess up shots in unrecoverable ways. This is a processing issue, not a skill issue. It's not something a user should have to pay their way out of, Apple should just work of dialling back the aggressive processing they do so that their phones can take good photos more reliably.
As I said earlier… I don’t see that at all. Guess I’m doing something right.
You’re using the Apple Camera app, shooting in RAW, and using Lightroom for post, right?
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