Screw the bars, I just care whether or not I can still get voice and data. Fact is, no matter how I hold my iPhone I never have problems with either. So what if I lose a bit of signal strength? If the call stays connected and everyone can hear each other clear, it's no different from any other cellphone I've owned. My blackberry (work phone -- company is still on BES exclusively) drops signal routinely in my own office building. Talk about a crappy phone.
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To everyone who thinks they dont have a reception problem
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Screw the bars, I just care whether or not I can still get voice and data. Fact is, no matter how I hold my iPhone I never have problems with either. So what if I lose a bit of signal strength? If the call stays connected and everyone can hear each other clear, it's no different from any other cellphone I've owned. My blackberry (work phone -- company is still on BES exclusively) drops signal routinely in my own office building. Talk about a crappy phone.
Those of us with consistently dropped calls are just tired of posting about it and are waiting for Apple to get off their "hold it different" position.
Yes, there is a problem, it affects some more than others. My guess is Apple will offer everyone a bumper. If that doesn't please them, they get their money back.
It's not a problem unless it inhibits one's ability to use the phone normally. I've been all over places in the 2 weeks I've had my iPhone 4 and even in rural places my signal nor service have been impeded by me holding the phone in the "death grip".
Your argument that all phones are affected by the attenuation issue is flawed. My friend got his on the 23rd in the mail, and it had the issue. We put our phones side by side, and guess what? Mine doesn't drop bars when held. He got a replacement from the Genius bar that doesn't have the issue.
Your argument that all phones are affected by the attenuation issue is flawed. My friend got his on the 23rd in the mail, and it had the issue. We put our phones side by side, and guess what? Mine doesn't drop bars when held. He got a replacement from the Genius bar that doesn't have the issue.
And guess what guys, NEWS FLASH!!!
You still have time to return your iPhone 4 for a full refund, with NO restocking fee, and a reset in your 2-year upgrade eligibility from AT&T.
Oh yes, you can still return your precious iPhone. It is NOT too late!
You have like another 1.5 weeks to decide, assuming you bought on launch date.
I see no issue here.
You still have time to return your iPhone 4 for a full refund, with NO restocking fee, and a reset in your 2-year upgrade eligibility from AT&T.
Oh yes, you can still return your precious iPhone. It is NOT too late!
You have like another 1.5 weeks to decide, assuming you bought on launch date.
I see no issue here.
Aww, sweet. Thanks so much for sharing. It is really cute that you think anyone cares.
Burn him at the "STEAK," huh? Awesome. You win the crown for best speller EVER!
Nope, just sharing my opinion like everyone else whose ever posted in a forum. And thanks for proving my point that you lack the skill to make a single intelligent response about the topic at hand.
The best your weak attempts at sounding smart can do is find a word that's spelled wrong, because that makes the entire post it was in completely wrong right?
The problem is that the level of discourse on this message board has degraded to the point that once someone mentions their phone works perfectly, they are quickly dismissed as a "fanboi" and are told to "stop swinging on Jobz nutz". Honestly I can't see why people even bother anymore. It seems that this place only deals in absolutes, and everyone is an rf expert with doctorates in antennae design.
That's true. I guess it's just that too many of them are packed into this forum so it makes it feel that way.
I see your point OP, but I don't think it holds...
If people are telling you their phone works, why are you arguing with them? There is no need for them to do anything, they have no data to even give to Apple.
Basically, you are suggesting people complain for no reason.
If people are telling you their phone works, why are you arguing with them? There is no need for them to do anything, they have no data to even give to Apple.
Basically, you are suggesting people complain for no reason.
i honestly dont have this problem.
but just for the sake of this topic, lets pretend i do
I don't have a reception problem, sorry.
I have yet to have a dropped call. I'm sure I won't get one of those until I reach an area that has absolutely no service.
I don't get why people rely on the display.
If it works, GOOD and if it doesn't well then there is your notification of the kind of signal you have.
ROFLMAO - This is getting as bad as the pixel peeping that goes on over at dpreview in regards to noise and such.
I have an iPhone 4. It has no more, in fact, it has less, reception issues than any previous phone I have owned. I love it. (Well, at least as much as one can love an inanimate object).
I have an iPhone 4. It has no more, in fact, it has less, reception issues than any previous phone I have owned. I love it. (Well, at least as much as one can love an inanimate object).
Actually, the fanboys are the ones who cry and whine like 8 year olds. They are the ones who cannot give up their iPhone. They love it so much they would rather keep it, but still complain complain complain.
If this was such a big issue for me, I wouldn't think twice about getting an Android phone on Verizon. It was my decision to choose an iPhone, knowing that it was on AT&T's ********* network. I can live with it.
These guys make it sound like they are absolutely stuck with their iPhone 4 on AT&T's shiitya$$ network. They can still return it for a full refund.
The problem is not Apple, the problem is YOU.
No, he's saying that the problem is there, even though you don't see it represented as bars dropping.
It may work for a lot of people, including me, but for a lot of other people, it doesn't work. If we stay quiet, or say there's no problem, that makes it easier for Apple to ignore it. If everyone steps up and says something, they'll eventually have to do something about it.
Once again, you may be in an area where it doesn't drop the signal enough to drop your calls at all, but why are you basically just going to give the finger to everyone who lives in areas where it does?
Also, I know that a product should be fine on it's own without having to purchase additional accessories, but I for one have never personally known an iphone owner through all four generations of the phone choose NOT to use a case. I understand the frustration if you NEED a case to stop the issue from happening, but (based merely on personal observation), when people actually have a choice whether or not to use a case with their iPhone, they seem to generally choose to use one.
I guess my point is that (again, purely personal opinion based on observation) most people who bought the iPhone 4 probably would have chosen to use a case anyways, whether or not it helped mitigate against reception issues.
I guess my point is that (again, purely personal opinion based on observation) most people who bought the iPhone 4 probably would have chosen to use a case anyways, whether or not it helped mitigate against reception issues.
I don't have a reception problem, sorry.
I have yet to have a dropped call. I'm sure I won't get one of those until I reach an area that has absolutely no service.
I don't get why people rely on the display.
If it works, GOOD and if it doesn't well then there is your notification of the kind of signal you have.
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Did I say that? Don't believe I did. But again, I really want to thank you for sharing.
I agree with you that we do know what is causing the problem and how to fix it. I have the problem but I am getting a case which will fix the issue so it will be a "non-issue" at least for me. I like having a case anyway so the problem does not affect me.
There are just some people here that think they have "Magic Phones" and they can not replicate the problem. Many of them have the attitude (and have posted as such) of "Mine Works, I don't need to prove it to you, go suck it".
I and most others on here would agree that they really don't have "Magic Phones" but just happen to be in an area where the signal is very strong so they can not replicate the problem.
The question remains if every single phone suffers from the "Death-Grip". Are there really phones out there that don't have the problem? If they don't, what makes them different.
Inquiring Minds Want To Know.
I had an iPhone 1st Gen, a 3GS, and now an iPhone 4. I have perfect reception and no dropped calls(I had more on my 3GS.). My camera works well. My proximity sensor works perfectly. I guess I just don't understand why this makes me a fangirl?
I think the best solution for all of those who are unhappy is to return the phone and get something else. Your eligibility will be reset. You'll get your money back. Problem solved. Why is this such a complicated concept?
You see, this is the logic I don't understand.
If you are in an area where it does drop the signal enough to drop your calls, don't you think any other phone on AT&T's ********* network will drop too? With the iPhone 4, it is only caused by touching that exact spot. With all the other phones, most ppl won't have a clue where that "death-grip" spot is. Since everyone and their mother now knows "the spot" on the iPhone4, they will be conscious enough not to touch it if the call is that important to not drop.
Or are you ppl that stubborn that you will still hold it in your awkward way and blame Apple.
The problem is not Apple, the problem is You.
No. Your phone not working doesn't affect me.
Just kidding...
But seriously, I feel sad for the people who do have the problem. This is the best phone I have ever owned. I get better reception with this than the 3GS.
It sucks this issue is causing a negative experience for people, cause when it works properly it really is a great device.
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