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Don't just mindlessly buy because it's an iPhone!

Not mindlessly buying.

  • It has LTE which was my biggest requirement. If it didn't add it this generation, I probably would have looked at other phones. I wouldn't have enjoyed it if they put it in the 4S using the previous gen chipsets as the battery life would have been less than 1 day.
  • I LOVE the aluminum unibody chassis. I think it's going to feel great in the hand.
  • I didn't even want them moving up to 4"...but I can live with it.
  • iOS could stand a refresh...perhaps some widgets, but it's not a deal breaker. But sure, let's complain to Apple to update it.
  • Apple puts out quality products. Even if they don't have feature parity, they are well made. The fit and finish blows away most competitors.
  • I'm very invested in the Apple ecosystem and really don't feel the desire to swtich. I use AirPlay a lot which is sooooo much better than DLNA. I know you'll hate this, but "it just works". I get the occasional error, but it's far easier and more reliable than any other data streaming I've tried.
  • They should add an LED alert. I'd like to complain about that.
  • Being a mail admin, not being able to attach something from the mail app is really annoying. They fixed that in iOS 6 finally....right?
 
The S3 has a better CPU, a bigger screen (a tad too big imo, but better than an elongated iPhone 4), extendible memory, removable battery, proper bluetooth.

For me personally, the only pro the iPhone has over the S3 is the app store and apples customer service. I want to access apps and know they're secure and virus/spyware free. If my phone or becomes faulty, I want to walk into a shop and walk out with a new/working phone.

To counter your points:
The S3 (and every other high end Android device) needs to have a very powerful processor because Android needs it. And plus, we don't actually know yet what the A6 has inside. Especially for North Americans, the A6 could be quad core (which I believe it is to get better battery life) where the S3 would still be a dual core chip. The S3 has been the only Android phone I've used other than the One X that is really smooth enough to compare to iOS. Of course, that could just be my experience, but then again a few of my friends that have the S3 have said the same thing, and one of them is a die hard Apple -> Android convert. Realistically, I've realized that what it comes down to is how well the phone works in your lifestyle, rather than what specs it has and the brute force it can produce.

The bigger screen issue is entirely subjective. For me, the 4" size is perfect. I first really liked that size when the Nexus S came out, and I thought that was the most comfortable phone to hold, and the screen was just perfectly sized. Overall, I've had 4 iPhones, 3 Android phones (All Samsung) and 1 Windows Phone (Also Samsung). The 4" size fits my hand better than anything else does. The S3, while I can definitely use it one handed, is still a bit too big for my taste.

The other three features you mentioned don't really affect me, since 32gb (my S3 is 32gb) is plenty for me now that I have my iPad for video, and I charge my phone every night and am always within reach of a charger (USB or wall).

What did you mean by proper Bluetooth? Do you mean being able to transfer files? If you need to transfer things phone to phone I guess it would be an important feature, but for me the only time I ever tested anything like that was with wifi direct (S3 to S3), not Bluetooth, which by the way, is much faster than Bluetooth. Bluetooth for me is only useful for music streaming and headsets.

Apple's App Store and general ecosystem is definitely more structured than Android's Play Store. Btut going beyond the apps, I think the actual hardware integration between other products is also important. The main reason I am switching back from Android to iOS is because of my other Apple products, and that I believe that the apps are better made on iOS. Also, software upgrades are done much better on iOS than on Android, at least for Samsung phones. I like being able to upgrade to the newest software when it is released rather than having to wait weeks to months after a major Android release to upgrade my software because the manufacturer has to reskin their version of the OS.

The customizability of the S3 is wonderful, but once I got my set up the way I wanted it (and I customized mine a lot), that aspect quickly went away and I'm back to operating my phone the same way as if it was stock again. This happened when I had my S2 as well, I went from loving the Android system to being indifferent about it and always missed iOS. In fact, I use much less of my apps on Android than I did with iOS, even if they are all the same apps.

Apple's customer service is second to none, so I agree with you there that the ability to just go into an actual retail store to get help and tech support is an awesome aspect.

Not wanting to start a fight or anything, just telling my experience with both sides and that ultimately the spec sheet of a phone, while fun to look at especially for us geeks, don't mean anything unless the apps that you want to run, run well and the way you want it to.

I was reading some of the comments on some tech blogs around the web about the iPhone 5, and the amount of Apple hate is just shocking and while Apple fans can do the same, I've found "phandroids" to be worse, and more insecure. Of course tech blogs are filled with people with spec sheets in hand armed with specs to shout out, but even then the final experience is what matters, and it differs per person.
 
Steve is turning in his grave right now. Apple is going to fall off a cliff.

all TIM has to do now is hang in their for another 9 more years to get his $400 million dollar paycheck. i think he'll still make it if they do small increments. he can drag it out..
 
Cool story bro.


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Name me one Android phone that can do 8 hrs of web browsing on LTE.

RAZR MAXX can, as can the RAZR HD and MAXX HD. RAZR MAXX is between 15-24 hours continuous, 4G LTE, regular usage. There are only two things that affect that, assuming you are in a strong signal area: streaming audio and hotspot. But even if you had hotspot running and using it with a tablet, or even streaming audio, you're still at the 12 hour mark. Under light usage you're at 36 hours possible. The phone's battery is insane and the benchmark to which all phones should aspire.

Galaxy Nexus is a poor example because even Samsung acknowledges it was a rushed device whose battery is inexcusable; thus the Galaxy SIII (which isn't perfect, but way better than the Nexus.)
 
I'm wondering this as well. People are always claiming that the gs3 and 2-3 other androids are so far ahead of iPhone in innovation and everything. I'm anxious to know what these "innovations" and features are that make it so much better.

And no a giant screen is not innovative.

Same here, I asked many people, but they never responded back to me in detail as to why and what makes S3 a better choice simply for the fact that Apple hasn't done anything new? What killer feature does S3 have that no other phone in this planet have?

And I mean the S3 specifically, because that's the only thing I hear people say.
And some Nokia, but that's still more understandable than an S3 to me. =/
 
I absolutely adored my iPhone 4. Was disappointed when the 4s was announced, and am disappointed now.

I upgraded to the 4s because I got a cheap deal and felt it would be worth more when I wanted to sell it to buy the 5.

I genuinely thought the 5 would be something new and exciting, something to (in my mind) put apple back ahead of the game, the phone that sets the standard all other phone makers chase, hence the term 'iPhone killer'.

This time I felt apple needed to produce a S3 killer, I know I'll get flamed and people wont agree, but that's just my opinion. For me, they needed to show Samsung how it's done, be the innovators apple are known to be. But they did no such thing. What we got is the iPhone 4 tall. If I upgrade, I'll have had the same phone for 3 years and shelled out almost £1500 for the privilege. More so, since apple added £30 to the price of a 16gb model.

The S3 has a better CPU, a bigger screen (a tad too big imo, but better than an elongated iPhone 4), extendible memory, removable battery, proper bluetooth.

For me personally, the only pro the iPhone has over the S3 is the app store and apples customer service. I want to access apps and know they're secure and virus/spyware free. If my phone or becomes faulty, I want to walk into a shop and walk out with a new/working phone.

So I'm torn, come upgrade time I have no idea what to do, I'm bored of the 4s, I want something new, I was hoping it would be the iPhone 5, but I'm not shelling out more money on what will feel like the exact same phone (quote specs all you like, but in the hand it will feel like the exact same phone). But the Samsung eco system just doesn't do it for me.
This is pretty much exactly how I feel.

If only the S3 had the Apple app store eh? :)
 
Well I bet you could find an exception to almost every opinion on the net if you looked hard enough but if you're happy with the design then fine, I'm disappointed personally and it appears quite a few are.

Millions are sold, so your "quite a few are disappointed" mean nothing. Apple will produce a solid smartphone, not caring one bit about the whiners on this forum because it does not look like the Samsungs. Whiners come and go on this forum each time a new iphone is introduced, and Apple stays the course.

I'm happy that Apple stays the course with a mature looking iPhone, not too wide as to be uncomfortable holding and using with one hand. The whiners can just leave pronto and buy your fancy plastic body wider Samsung or other manufactured phone because Apple will not cater to you, and thank goodness they won't. :p :p
 
It is a smartphone, not a piece of fashion. Do you pick up chicks with your iPhone or something?

there's an app on the iphone that i had, called "Funny pick up lines". i just dloaded it outta sheer boredom 1 day and then totally forgot about it. few months later i meet an amazing girl through a friend... incidently n weirdly i somehow remembered this app, open it up, grab a couple of lines i found funny... actually used them on her... good laugh.
she's my wife. :p;):D
it was the 1st & last time ive used that app. thank u iphone. :D prolly wud've found it on an android as well... but just saying.

anyways, bout the thread... im not too disappointed. i kinda welcome the 4 inch screen size. i think nfc is pretty useless right now, i dont think im missing anything by it not being on the i5. since im currently on an i4, im gonna be upgrading to the i5. i think its more of a phone to go to for ppl using the i4. LTE & the camera were sort of a no brainer anyway since LTE is old tech now. apple's played catch up with regard to LTE.
other than that, i dont really understand what MORE were ppl expecting? its a smart phone. it integrates beautifully well with the software. if u want more, there's always gonna be jailbreak... what can an android do that the i5 can't?? im yet to see...
 
About a week ago the weather man said it would rain today. Today I woke up and it was raining. I was so disappointed.... :confused:
 
put it in your bag, briefcase, car, desk, coat pocket, etc...the S3 batteries are so cheap ($2.99 each) that you can buy a bunch and leave one at every location.

I used to be a big proponent of removable batteries, and to a point I still am. But I've found the latest generation of external charging packs to be very useful. While they are not the instant 100% charge of swapping a battery, they are far more flexible in that I can use them to charge my iPad, iPod, iPhone, Garmin Forerunner, etc..... I travel a lot and this is far more useful to me than a second battery. The only device I have a second battery for these days is my DSLR.

So yeah, I think it's ok if we give the removable battery thing a rest and move on.
 
IDK brother. Take a look at the new iPod nano. Now take a look at the Nokia Lumia line of phones. They look about as similar as Samsung versus Apple products if you as me...

It does look like a mini lumia.. the nanos definitely strike the younger market nowadays. I had a nano in high school. Doubt many do now. But for that white plate with the color around it I guess it's easier than creating full color packages
 
The iphone 5 was a huge disappointment. they have used the same design for the 4,4s and 5. I figured they would have made it looked a bit different. also a little bit wider would have been nice. they improved upon the good things and left the bad alone. I could care less if it is thinner, that makes no difference when I use it. also changing the dock connector and being the only company to sell the attachment? seems kinda greedy. They could have made this phone so much better than what they did. Extremely disappointed
 
...and here comes the spin.

Gotta soften that blow somehow.

And people here call me crazy for suggesting Apple stock is going to be half next year at this time. lol

It's going to pass 700 by next Friday. As of writing it is already at 678, up a good amount from a so called "disappointing" keynote.

For those complaining about the design being a longer iPhone 4s, would you like it if Apple played catchup and released a hunk of plastic like other companies? :rolleyes:

People feel the need to beat down what they either cannot afford, upgrade to (4S owners), or are too caught up in other Eco systems to switch. The Internet needs something to complain about otherwise it would stop working.
 
Millions are sold, so your "quite a few are disappointed" mean nothing. Apple will produce a solid smartphone, not caring one bit about the whiners on this forum because it does not look like the Samsungs. Whiners come and go on this forum each time a new iphone is introduced, and Apple stays the course.

I'm happy that Apple stays the course with a mature looking iPhone, not too wide as to be uncomfortable holding and using with one hand. The whiners can just leave pronto and buy your fancy plastic body wider Samsung or other manufactured phone because Apple will not cater to you, and thank goodness they won't. :p :p

The reason millions are sold is because there is an Apple logo on it. 90% of buyers probably don't have a clue what 1/2 the features are/do they just want Apple cause it's the IT thing right now.
 
The reason millions are sold is because there is an Apple logo on it. 90% of buyers probably don't have a clue what 1/2 the features are/do they just want Apple cause it's the IT thing right now.

Such a stupid argument which has no basis in reality. I wasn't aware that the economy was so strong that the average consumer could throw between $200 to $650 on a device and not be bothered to even ask what it does. You clearly must be a much smarter consumer than the millions of people referenced in your post.
 
I am going to pass the 5 is no better then the 4s to me I want bigger then 4 like 4.5 view or like the Samsung 3 and 64 is small to me I wanted bigger on 5

Can Anyone make a Samsung 3 with os6 that should be better
 
Apple is a very wealthy company. They sold millions of their products, won the legal battle, has high stock price. Where all that profit going?
With money that much, customers and shareholders expect "more" from them.
Instead of clinging to the past with all those legal wars, they should actually doing more R&D and hiring more engineers, get new technology.
 
For the people who are totally disappointed, what could Apple have done with the iPhone 5 for you to change your mind?
I love iPhone 5, but here's what Apple could have done:

1. Wider aperture than the current f/2.4

2. Apple argues that in order to operate the phone single-handedly, the screen can not be wider, it can be taller. BS! It's so tall now that there's no freaking way you'll reach the top with just one hand. Might as well make it wider. Duh!

3. 8MP front camera, not just back

That's it really. I can't complain about the design/shape of the phone because I like it a lot.
 
no one wants to carry around an extra battery.

Spend 21 dollars on amazon/ebay and get a 4200 mah and you can go 36 hours without charging your device. Sure it makes your phone thicker, but I think it's a pretty even trade off, especially when that'll never be available on iPhones.
 
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