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Apple main website should honor him, no matter what he said while alive - full stop.

Apple's forever achievement summed up in one word - PodCast. :apple::)
 
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Not veganism really... but rejection of the ‘Western medicine’ treatment for a highly treatable and curable type of cancer, in favour of made-up nonsense dietary cures. Sad.
Agree with you that veganism didn't kill him; but pancreatic cancer has a horrible prognosis...one of the worst, even with treatment.
 
Jobs never really invented anything. He slapped a bunch of things together... even then, it wasn't his own doing. He had vision, but it's not like you ever saw him writing code or soldering anything or trying to figure out how to fit 5,000 mp3s into a pocketable device.
From what I know of him he was a lot more technical than it appears you are giving him credit for. While he wasn't as technical as Steve Wozniak he wasn't limited to being a great visionary / marketer.
 
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Agree with you that veganism didn't kill him; but pancreatic cancer has a horrible prognosis...one of the worst, even with treatment.

True, but he didn't have pancreatic cancer, in the medical sense.
He had a neuroendocrine tumour involving the pancreas. A whole different beast. A treatable and curable beast. Unlike primary pancreatic adenocarcinoma, which is devastatingly horrible, and pretty much kills within weeks.
Do a quick search.. there's quite lot out there all about it, and his refusal to conventional treatment until it was too late.
It's spectacularly sad, and frustrating.
 
True, but he didn't have pancreatic cancer, in the medical sense.
He had a neuroendocrine tumour involving the pancreas. A whole different beast. A treatable and curable beast. Unlike primary pancreatic adenocarcinoma, which is devastatingly horrible, and pretty much kills within weeks.
Do a quick search.. there's quite lot out there all about it, and his refusal to conventional treatment until it was too late.
It's spectacularly sad, and frustrating.

It was sad, but why do people always bring this up anytime there's an article on Jobs? Simply to make him look like some kind of accidental success or to try and diminish his accomplishments. I hope this doesn't get deleted! I guess its ok for haters to posts stuff but not actual Apple fans.
 
Let's light virtual candle to person who is not amongst us any more and let's not speculate about could've-should've-would've. Maybe if he would cure completely hadn't it been for alternative medicine or maybe the cancer would return some years later. Noone can ever tell with this senseless sickness.

And happy birthday to MR as well!
 



Former Apple CEO and co-founder Steve Jobs was born on February 24, 1955 and if he were still alive, today would mark his 64th birthday.

Jobs not only founded Apple alongside Steve Wozniak in 1976 and directed the development of some of the first personal computers, but he also brought Apple back from the brink of failure even after being ousted from the company he created.

In the 2000-2010s, Jobs was responsible for not only saving Apple, but then building it into one of the largest companies in the world. The introduction of the iPod in 2001 and iPhone in 2007 represented industry changing products that have sold hundreds of millions of units.

steve-jobs-iphone.jpg

Steve Jobs passed away on October 5th, 2011 at the age of 56. Jobs had been suffering with complications related to pancreatic cancer in the years leading up to his death. Jobs has obviously affected the world with his contributions to Apple, and his death impacted us all. The article of his passing cites many reactions and photos from around the world.

Coincidentally, MacRumors shares the same birthday as Steve Jobs and was created on February 24, 2000. Today, the site turns 19 years sold, and we are grateful for our dedicated readers, community members, and volunteers.

Article Link: Today Marks Steve Jobs' 64th Birthday as MacRumors turns 19
Happy Birthday Mr. Jobs and thank you for all your technology R.I.P
 
It was sad, but why do people always bring this up anytime there's an article on Jobs? Simply to make him look like some kind of accidental success or to try and diminish his accomplishments. I hope this doesn't get deleted! I guess its ok for haters to posts stuff but not actual Apple fans.
I think it might be frustration - that he could still be here, leading the company he created.
It's that conflict - a genius in one domain of life, and yet flawed in another.

No, not an accidental success in any way... just a genius with a flaw. And guttingly, that flaw cost him his life. His obstinate refusal to listen to health advice. It doesn't diminish his achievements or status in any way.. it just echoes many fans' frustration, that he could still be with us today.
 
True, but he didn't have pancreatic cancer, in the medical sense.
He had a neuroendocrine tumour involving the pancreas. A whole different beast. A treatable and curable beast. Unlike primary pancreatic adenocarcinoma, which is devastatingly horrible, and pretty much kills within weeks.
Do a quick search.. there's quite lot out there all about it, and his refusal to conventional treatment until it was too late.
It's spectacularly sad, and frustrating.
You’re right, He didn’t have adeno, but he did undergo both a Whipple and a liver transplant...prognosis is poor if it returns after those procedures, which it did. I’ll have to read more if he “refused conventional treatment until it was too late” but it sounds like he was doing everything he could. Sad indeed.
 
Also veganism. Sugar is cancers best friend and he ate a lot of it.
And what has sugar to do with veganism? Nothing. I guess you’re mixing things up.

He tried a lot of new age nonsense, and went way too late to the real doctors. He could be alive today (or at least live some more years) if he wouldn’t have trusted some quack.
 
You’re right, He didn’t have adeno, but he did undergo both a Whipple and a liver transplant...prognosis is poor if it returns after those procedures, which it did. I’ll have to read more if he “refused conventional treatment until it was too late” but it sounds like he was doing everything he could. Sad indeed.

just google "steve jobs cancer". Lots of stuff about it.

Or read the Isaacson biography, with more personal info.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technol...er-with-alternative-medicine-for-so-long.html

"In spite of pleas from family and friends, he tried to cure himself through acupuncture sessions, drinking special fruit juices, visiting "spiritualists" and using other treatments he found on the internet.

Some cancer experts have said that Mr Jobs may have extended his life or even survived if he had promptly tackled his cancer aggressively with scientifically proven medical treatments."
 
And what has sugar to do with veganism? Nothing. I guess you’re mixing things up.

He tried a lot of new age nonsense, and went way too late to the real doctors. He could’ve been alive today if he wouldn’t have trusted some quack.
Because he was basically fruitarian. Which is a death sentence on its own. There is a story how he came to work all orange because he didn't have enough fat to deal with carotenoids. "A diet for a small planet?" is where he got many of his "genius" ideas when it comes to food. Where do you think company name comes from.
 
Bottom line: He wasn't perfect. Sad he's gone. Wish he was still here.
 
Thank you Steve Jobs and thank you MacRumors.

I don't come here very often anymore to comment on things or to read a lot about Apple, I simply don't care as deeply anymore as I used to (about Apple that is), but I love that this is a community of fans that welcomes criticism towards Apple these days and it's still a good resource for rumors when I do feel the urge to satisfy that.

I wish Steve's Apple magic would come back someday, probably never will, but at least just a fraction of it would go a long way. Unfortunately there's little news coming from Cupertino beyond privacy, health and spec bumps that feel like improvements anymore.

Not saying these things aren't important, but when that is practically the only things save for a few bones here and there and cutbacks in other ways it's hard to feel very positive anymore.

Glassed Silver:mac
 
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It was sad, but why do people always bring this up anytime there's an article on Jobs? Simply to diminish his accomplishments. I hope this doesn't get deleted! I guess its ok for haters to posts stuff but not actual Apple fans.

They are life's wet blankets; no situation is too positive or vibrant that they can't/won't wet blanket it. The very definition of haters - no positive strain left alive.
 
Because he was basically fruitarian. Which is a death sentence on its own. There is a story how he came to work all orange because he didn't have enough fat to deal with carotenoids. "A diet for a small planet?" is where he got many of his "genius" ideas when it comes to food. Where do you think company name comes from.
I know that. But fruitarism is a niche form of a vegan lifestyle, so I just wanted to point out that veganism has nothing to do with it.
 
I know that. But fruitarism is a niche form of a vegan lifestyle, so I just wanted to point out that veganism has nothing to do with it.
It's still veganism and it's not compatible with life in the long term.

Fruitarianism (/fruːˈtɛəriənɪzəm/) is a diet that consists entirely or primarily of fruits in the botanical sense, and possibly nuts and seeds, but without animal products. Fruitarianism is a subset of dietary veganism.

Fruitarianism may be adopted for different reasons, including ethical, religious, environmental, cultural, economic, and health. There are several varieties of the diet. Some people with a diet consisting of 75% or more fruit consider themselves fruitarians.[1]
 
Too many aspire to "change the world". Most in a negative way for selfish reasons (e.g. greed).
That is what made Steve so special, for him it was NEVER about money. He DID change the world in a positive way and Apple made billions making products that people chose to buy.
His legacy can never be refuted.
R.I.P. Steve - and thank you again!!!
 
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