cocoua
macrumors 65816
don`t surprise given how markets works…
Today Marks the One Year Anniversary of the First Apple Silicon Macs
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Well there new desktop chips outclass the M1 chips including Max, so if Apple keep the M1 chips as they are in the laptops and puts them in its Pro iMac and Mac Pro, then I suspect Intel will de smiling gleefully. Only problem with Intels new chips is you need a power station in your back garden to run them and turn all your heating off, cause the computer will heat your home up. But apart from that they are good.
Technology doesn't stand still and either will Intel or AMD, we await to see what Apple does for its more pro desktop computers. But Intel as part of Microsoft's package has legacy support that beats Apples hands down and that's for sure, and I think appeal to the wider market too.
The current iMac design will be locked in for several years to come. Constantly repeating “I hope for a chinless iMac” is an exercise in wishful thinking if you say it often enough it will happen.
Given all indications it won’t happen. Best to make peace with it and focus on the new device’s features and capabilities.
mjtomlin71
macrumors 6502
Hmmm...not exactly true. The A6 was Apple's first to use custom CPU core designs. Apple had been designing their SoC's from the beginning, basically cobbling together "off the shelf" IP. Samsung was involved with the A4 in-so-much that they partnered with Intrinsity to enhance the ARM CPU cores. Apple would soon after buy Intrinsity to beef up their silicon design talent, which ultimately led to the A6.
Whatever comes out, comes out, obviously will have to live with it but it's a free world to express dislike. But one can hope.
Just this form factor, just doesn't sit right more I look at it vs cost and the only thing that is keeping me on Apple at the mo is life has been good with it till now.
And I do not like windows os.
My opinion and all that.
anshuvorty
macrumors 68040
The new MacBook Pro's are incredible. The keyboards, especially, IMHO...even better than Magic Keyboard 2 on the M1 MacBook Pro/Air.
mjtomlin71
macrumors 6502
I think we'll see the new iMac at WWDC.
30" ProMotion, miniLED Display, optional anti-glare coating
Much smaller bezels/no notch. Chin same size as it is now.
50% thicker than the current iMac.
M1 Max/Ultra(Max x2)
Starting at $2499
They will also debut the Mac mini "pro" with M1 Pro/Max starting at $999
Maybe but they do lack support for older programmes, you have to find workarounds for some things. It's a lot to think off when your spending that much money.
You are seriously dreaming if you think a Mac Mini with those specs will start from a grand. Add at least another 600 to that price. And if they rename the iMac to the iMac Pro it'll probably start closer to 3 grand and that's still a lot cheaper then the Intel iMac Pro starting price.
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Tagbert
macrumors 604
Not a problem. I already got rid of the few 32-bit apps I had. Just recently deleted the Windows VM that I had not used in over a year. Almost all app I use now are already AS native. No real workarounds needed.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
Ideas here are generally good, but your guesses at prices make it look like you don't know Apple. Profit margin comes first.
I think "starting at..." targets MIGHT fit but not those specs. Starting at is the weakling (under-specced) model to get them a low price to show in all of the "big reveal" press coverage. Then you BTO it to get the specs you actually want and it can be 1.5X-3X more than that.
My guess is that a Mac Mini PRO/MAX config is going to be priced oddly high so as to not discourage the old "so why wouldn't I just pay the "little more" and get the iMac PRO/MAX equivalent and also get the screen?"
My guess is that bigger iMac won't wait until a June reveal. I bet they have it all pinned down now but did not roll it out due to chip constraints. I very much would bet on a Spring event for updated MB Air and bigger iMac. If anything at WWDC, I bet they show prototype Mac Pro M2 that doesn't actually launch until the Fall. I bet that's also where they roll out the DUO/QUAD concept with maybe some kind of "Grand Central Extreme" spin to get developers thinking about coding for that kind of platform too.
But, that shared, I'll hope right with you. Bargain Mac Mini MAX is immediate buy.
I have a base model M1 MBA and I absolutely love this thing. Best laptop I have ever used and I used a lot of 15" MBP models in the past as a UX designer, video editor, and software developer. It does pretty much everything I throw at it and its 100% silent and lasts a very long time.
I love it so much I may even skip moving to a 14" MBP. It is really that good and as of right now there is nothing it cannot do for me. I'm editing Canon R6 4k HEVC 10 bit video on it without a hiccup.
Only reason I will consider moving to the 14" is for that sweet XDR Display. I have a 13" XDR iPad Pro and its stunning. I'm grading HDR video now using an external monitor but its nowhere near as good as the XDR displays. That display is a real game changer that is going to open up the world of HDR video.
Considering the MBA M1 is already so good for me however if I do upgrade it will be to the base model 14".
I love it so much I may even skip moving to a 14" MBP. It is really that good and as of right now there is nothing it cannot do for me. I'm editing Canon R6 4k HEVC 10 bit video on it without a hiccup.
Only reason I will consider moving to the 14" is for that sweet XDR Display. I have a 13" XDR iPad Pro and its stunning. I'm grading HDR video now using an external monitor but its nowhere near as good as the XDR displays. That display is a real game changer that is going to open up the world of HDR video.
Considering the MBA M1 is already so good for me however if I do upgrade it will be to the base model 14".
Good for you, now for some of the rest of us it's a problem.
Tagbert
macrumors 604
Yes, I would expect a Mini Pro with M1 Pro to start between $1500 and $1700. Less than the MBP 14” but not so much cheaper that the MBP looks like a bad deal.
anshuvorty
macrumors 68040
I would also like to put this out there:
- the display on the new MacBook Pros: I don't think Windows laptops are even comparable to these displays! Sure, on paper, Apple may say that these emit 500 nits of brightness during regular use, but these displays are vivid, sharp, and a pleasure to look at. Windows laptops don't even come close, IMHO. I have always believed, that in the computer space, Apple's secret sauce was their display and audio technologies, and both make a return to greatness in these new laptops.
I have bought MBP 14” for display and have bigger monitor.
I will buy 16” next time probably… The screen is so amazing that I wish it was bigger.
sideshowuniqueuser
macrumors 68040
Highly likely to be well on track. Considering the rumours are for it to more or less simply have the M1 Max 10/32 chip in 2x and 4x configs, giving it 20/64 and 40/128 cores. Presumably the only other major complication will be plug in off-SOC extra RAM to add to the max 256GB on-SOC, but I'm sure that option is already in the M1 Max design. The bottleneck is probably more manufacturing capacity than design.
SurferPup
macrumors 6502a
I love ❤️ my 2020 Silicone MacBook ? Air. I have owned MBAs and more so MacBook Pros. Always miss the extra ports to some degree in the MBAs however the lightness compensates. I can easily manipulate the 1 kilogramme device with only one hand as it is akin to handling a frisbee ?. 2+ kilogramme MBPs can be held in one hand with some risk of dropping. Previous laptop was an Intel 2018 MBP (16 Gb RAM). My M1 MBA has 8 Gb of RAM with all the same processes running and I have the same performance. Restarting my Intel 2017 iMac ? took forever last night. I plan to have whole house rid of Intel powered devices within 2 - 3 years. Apple’s Silicone blows everything else on the market away. Silicone is more than clever marketing - it exceeds my expectations.
sideshowuniqueuser
macrumors 68040
Well if the rumours are correct, then we already know it will be a 4x M1 Max 40/128 core machine w up to 256GB/32T SOC, presumably w off-SOC plug-in RAM options.
It will be interesting where they have taken it in 5 years with more tweaking of specialised accelerators to suit pro industries, and who knows what else.
CarAnalogy
macrumors 603
Already a year that I’ve felt ripped off buying this Intel MacBook Air released one year and seven months ago.
Shirasaki
macrumors P6
People are not underestimating them. Even PC centric channels are covering them. If you talk about Intel maybe right, but not really for other people.
chrisdazzo
macrumors 65816
RIP the best 32-bit Mac game, Halo. I still keep the app in my Applications folder to this day, to remember the good times.
sideshowuniqueuser
macrumors 68040
And a notch please. Ha, just kidding
