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My timing was terrible. I downloaded the Navigon app less than 12 hours ago, right before I went to bed. Is there any hope for a refund?
Why?

To me i think Navigon have a better user interface and very user friendly then TomTom.
 
Can't wait to get a review on this. I've held off buying a GPS app until this one was out.
 
My timing was terrible. I downloaded the Navigon app less than 12 hours ago, right before I went to bed. Is there any hope for a refund?

Don't feel bad, I did the same thing. I agree that the UI of the Tom Tom isn't that great. Then again, I'm having trouble getting my Navigon to work. :)
 
As I am installing the Co-pilot app I downloaded last night, I am wondering if this is a move by Tom Tom to prevent all the people who have been waiting and waiting for TT from jumping ship and buying Co-pilot. I know I was waiting since last year, but finally the reviews and pricepoint of Co-pilot made me stop waiting for TT and go with the competition.

I've bought Co-Pilot (UK version), but I'm not having a very happy time with it. The user interface is quite nice, but it keeps losing track of where I am, and it's sent me on some fairly bizarre routes, so for me it's proving unusable.

It sounds like the Tom Tom cradle actually has it's own GPS unit in it, so I'm hoping it will be a lot more reliable. I'll pay the price if it actually works!
 
I've bought Co-Pilot (UK version), but I'm not having a very happy time with it. The user interface is quite nice, but it keeps losing track of where I am, and it's sent me on some fairly bizarre routes, so for me it's proving unusable.

It sounds like the Tom Tom cradle actually has it's own GPS unit in it, so I'm hoping it will be a lot more reliable. I'll pay the price if it actually works!

Why not just get an in car GPS unit then?
 
Why not just get an in car GPS unit then?

A new TomTom Go 540 costs just over £200, so the iPhone App and cradle will hopefully be a bit cheaper here in the UK. Plus it gives me just one thing to carry around instead of two.

The big issue for me is whether the iPhone App also has the TomTom Live service. If it doesn't, then I probably will just buy the car unit instead.
 
A new TomTom Go 540 costs just over £200, so the iPhone App and cradle will hopefully be a bit cheaper here in the UK. Plus it gives me just one thing to carry around instead of two.

The big issue for me is whether the iPhone App also has the TomTom Live service. If it doesn't, then I probably will just buy the car unit instead.

It's highly doubtful that the functionality of this application will come close to matching one of TomTom's top models. Better to compare it to TomTom One, which currently retails for around £120.
 
It's highly doubtful that the functionality of this application will come close to matching one of TomTom's top models. Better to compare it to TomTom One, which currently retails for around £120.

Yes, I've already wondered if that will be the case. If so, I think it will be a bit of a missed opportunity for TomTom, as they could differentiate themselves from the other products already on the market and justify a higher price if they made the premium services available (although I would expect to pay an extra monthly subscription for this).
 
Now I have a Garmin and an iPhone. I have made this work for me. I won't describe all the details here, but it ends up having a bunch of cables, mounts and I have to hide the Garmin under the seat when I park it.

Also, while the Garmin does play mp3s, it is a pain to load them (conversions from Apple's format) and the Garmin mp3 interface is not nearly as good as Apple's.

So, an all-in-one solution is great and the price is cheap. Don't understand the too-expensive rants.

Issues would be:

Does it work horizontally? All GPS systems do.

How does it switch from iTunes to GPS duty and back?

What provisions are there to hook it up through the car's stereo system? It had better not be just an awful and dangerous fm solution!

Is the screen size sufficient? I have written before that such a solution calls for an optional cheap video screen that would take the phone's input (bluetooth?) and also have provision to hook up a back-up camera or other devices.

There is always the issue of the actual quality of the TomTom GPS experience. It has to be a good app, not just an app...

There are mounts, charging cables and cables (I would guess) to hook it all up to the existing stereo system, and supposedly a GPS antenna. The success of this unit will depend on how all these extras hook up, how they look and function.

Adding an in-car GPS, which requires removing the existing radio and using adapters to mount an aftermarket unit that combines stereo and GPS functions is not a cheap thing to do. Nice, though.

Another problem with in-car GPS units is that all the programming has to be done in the car and that is tedious. It is much nicer to take your portable into the house and and enter addresses and phone numbers in comfort. This is especially nice if you are planning a trip and have all sorts of addresses to enter and are using info from your computer. It is also easier to download any updates.

Garmin will likely enter the field as well, so the competition should result in some nice solutions.
 
What about when you get phone calls or texts while using this application. You can't answer them without quitting tomtom I'm assuming? I'd rather buy a standalone unit cause this app would be more of an inconvenience than it is helpful IMO.

Plus it's way too expensive. Google Maps on the iPhone works well enough for me.
 
I already have a TomTom LIVE 740 in my car. I'm not interested in an in-car solution.

What I am interested in, is which iPhone turn-by-turn app offers the best functionality for pedestrian use. I often use GPS + Maps when trying to find my way round a strange city, but it can be an expensive business when roaming abroad. All the TomTom peripheral kit is of no concern to me; I'll never use it in-car. But I would be attracted to a TomTom to use on foot, familiar as I am with the TomTom UI.

Anyone else thinking the same way? Which app do people recommend for pedestrians?
 
but the gps basically stays in your car, mounted to your windsheild, so it seems more convenient to me just to be able to have it there and not have to dock an extra devise.

Good suggestion. It would get stolen in a heartbeat. My car has been broken open once already. I luckily took my TomTom out of the car and took the bracket from the window. They saw the mark of the suction cup on the windshield though and smashed the window.

It's all about convergence of technologies. I'm willing to bet that TomTom and other manufacturers will move to sole software production within a few years as all phones and other small portable gadgets will get GPS capability.
 
but the gps basically stays in your car, mounted to your windsheild, so it seems more convenient to me just to be able to have it there and not have to dock an extra devise.

Around here (Washington DC area), if you leave your GPS in your car mounted to your windshield, there is about a 99% chance that somebody will break into your car and steal it.
 
Maybe in AUS and NZ, but not in the US. You can pick up various Tom Tom ONE models for < $120. And that includes a mounting kit and charger.

I'm all for integration, but not at those prices.
I think CoPilot price point of $35 is closer to the mark, but eventual they will find a < $20 sweet-spot.

Taking into account this information, perhaps TomTom would realize the absurdity of selling a simple piece of software at a price comparable to a new GPS unit which would include that same software, and will decrease the prices in accordance to the rest of their offered products, and not as a direct currency conversion.
 
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