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iphone1105 said:
Ha ok, fair point. No more name calling. For the record, I don't have the unlimited plan anymore. I had never gone over 1GB so when the 2GB plan came out and was $5 cheaper I went with that. I however don't like a big company changing the terms of an agreement. There has to be a better way for them to go about this.

And I agree with you that AT&T probably won't change their practices because of this. But if they did it wouldn't be the first time that a company changed their mind after they got slammed in the press.


Well of course, youre saving what $60/year. Good for your wallet and saving account, smart move. Hope the money saved goes towards good stuff.

And no doubt, yes news can chang the course of things, no denying that. But, and the one big "but" in this, is when these folks complaining of being throttled have it in contracts and amended ones, they really have no legs to stand on!

Anyway, fun banter, glad we can chat!

Maybe we won't get the throttling to stop, but we may be able to get AT&T to change their policy on enforcing the throttling. Instead of throttling for the entire remainder of the billing cycle they may only throttle during peak hours, or only on currently congested cell towers (like Verizon does). Anything would be better than the current policy.

And you continue to state that our complaining will have no effect. We complainers are at least getting some media attention. So follow YOUR OWN advice and stop bítching about us complaining. We understand your opinion and we don't care. When the AP writes a story about how you are fed up with our complaining then you may resume your tired rants. Until then, get stuffed.
 
Whoa, a couple articles on the internet out of the millions of articles everyday. tidal wave is approaching. Look out all! FYI, read 5 articles last week how kitty litter and cat fecies causes bacteria in humans brains to make humans less fearful. I suppose the kitty litter movememnt made those articles appear, kudos to them just like you all.
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basically, what you're all doing. really isn't doing much. And in the end, when things remain the same, all this talk and writing for nothing, 'tis a shame.

Seriously, why are you bothering to post here at all? We complain about #ATTfail. You complain about US. You are doing the exact same thing we are, but OPINING that we are wrong.

However, this will result in nothing happening. You do know that right? I mean really? A slow news monday, couple sites pick up on a AP story written by some NY Times reject writer, and suddenly the world is changing?

A) It's cell phone data you all are work up about CELL PHONE DATA!

It's cell phone data plan users you are worked up about. CELL PHONE DATA PLAN USERS!

ATT is fast when you get good signal and aren't throttled. Now that I'm on Verizon I can see the speed diffrence. :( I hope I get used to the difference. It won't be an issue once LTE arrives. :D

Wait, you think something is going to get BETTER with LTE??? Sooner or later Verizon/Sprint/whoever is going to drop all unlimited, or drop a throttling limit lower, or jack your tiered prices up for less data. If they know #ATTfail can do it, then they can get away with it too.

Like I said, don't see the need to get all worked up over something that has no effect on my day to day......nor do I have the urge to start online petitions or think by starting message board threads will change anything....but hey, to each his own. More power to you

Again, what are you trying to contribute to a thread you disagree with, and won't be affected by? I honestly don't understand why you are here.

And you continue to state that our complaining will have no effect. We complainers are at least getting some media attention. So follow YOUR OWN advice and stop bítching about us complaining. We understand your opinion and we don't care. When the AP writes a story about how you are fed up with our complaining then you may resume your tired rants. Until then, get stuffed.

Thank You.
 
Good bit on Fox News w/ Shepard Smith. he got the top 5% message lol. He seems pretty ticked off about it

http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/shepa.../1450582537001/catch-to-unlimited-data-plans/

This is good, hopefully AT&T will take some notice now that this is getting picked up by the media
I keep reading complaints, but it is usually "enthusiasts" on sites like this one. Hopefully attFAIL will take notice now that is being picked up by more media and more people realize what's happening and make their voices heard. Just a few links, but it is definitely getting some recent attention...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/02/13/att-unlimited-data-plan-limit_n_1272789.html
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2012/02/13/financial/f000808S96.DTL
 
Vz vs att

ATT is fast when you get good signal and aren't throttled. Now that I'm on Verizon I can see the speed diffrence. :( I hope I get used to the difference. It won't be an issue once LTE arrives. :D

I must admit, after doing a trial switch to sprint, I've realized how good Att was, as far as data (in Chicago) - I couldn't even check my email, downtown on sprint. And yes, not being able to talk and have your data at the same time sucks

But my buddy has a verizon 4g hotspot and those are 2-3x better when traveling on highways. Att usually goes edge, unless you're near a big city.

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Ps: BIG CONGTATS to all trolls here, with your help of buzzing about this issue, we (the pissed, loyal customers) have accomplished something fairly significant - reached main stream media
Keep on going!
 
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I must admit, after doing a trial switch to sprint, I've realized how good Att was, as far as data (in Chicago) - I couldn't even check my email, downtown on sprint. And yes, not being able to talk and have your data at the same time sucks

But my buddy has a verizon 4g hotspot and those are 2-3x better when traveling on highways. Att usually goes edge, unless you're near a big city.

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Ps: BIG CONGTATS to all trolls here, with your help of buzzing about this issue, we (the pissed, loyal customers) have accomplished something fairly significant - reached main stream media
Keep on going!


I've noticed that VZ tends to work better in buildings. In the basement and with ATT I would always be on edge signal. However with VZ I tend to have 1-2 bars of 3G. The signal was very steady unlike ATT which was bouncy more than a bunny.
 
The throttling story is starting to get some serious press. My Google Reader has been filled with stories from the obvious sources (tech blogs), but also mainstream news outlets.

Certain AT&T employees in this forum who shall not be named wish it wasn't so, but it is. Keep up the pressure everyone. :)
 
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i found this link

www.fcc.gov/complaints
 
This may be a bit of rambling text and some of it may be repeats of other comments:

I do not have an issue with AT&T throttling. My issue is with their selection process of who to throttle and that they are telling me I can spend on a tiered data plan, use more bandwidth than my monthly average, and not fear being limited in my speeds. In my opinion, they should not throttle anyone who uses under 5gb (I think that is the maximum package you can purchase?). If they throttled anyone over that, to edge speeds, I wouldn't have as much heartburn about it. Sure, unlimited means unlimited but I think there is a point where it is considered abuse. I think I read in other threads where people are bragging about using up words of 50-100GB a month on average. My first thought would be that those are users that have jailbroken their phones and are probably tethering. If I were AT&T, I would be upset about that too and would be looking for a way to mitigate that. IMO, those are the people they need to be targeting, not the people using between 2-5GB a month.

I got the message last month when I hit 2.3GB. That is the highest my data usage has ever been and was because I got a new stereo for my birthday and streamed through a lot of apps that I have not used before such as Sirius and iHeartradio as well as iTunes Match.

If AT&T forces me to a tiered plan, I will get one. I will go to Verizon to do it though. I live in Houston and have never had the kinds of connection issues that many here complain of, but, just as AT&T has a right to regulate their own network, I, as a consumer, have the right to take my business elsewhere. At the same time though, I should not have to be worried about which apps I use and when I use them.

I would rather not have to do that because I am in general a very loyal person and have been with AT&T for over 10 years.
 
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i found this link

www.fcc.gov/complaints

Seriously?

ggyeahh for real
 
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rhl said:
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i found this link

www.fcc.gov/complaints

i talked to a guy with the fcc

he said the number of complaints are over the top

party on wayne excellent
 
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Vaughn Logan said:
*** Must Read ***

I urge everybody to file a complaint with the FCC. They will examine if there is a policy violation on unlimited plans regarding bandwidth throttling. Every complaint has to be answered by AT&T in writing within 45 days. Phone 1-888-CALL-FCC (1-888-225-5322).


*** Example Text ***

I wish to file an informal complaint with the FCC against AT&T Wireless. I want to examine the possibility of “Policy Violations” and/or “Violations of Policy that are In Development” on the part of AT&T.

AT&T has determined that I am in the top 5% of monthly data consumption users, but has not clearly defined in specific terms (either in Kilobytes of Megabytes) how much monthly data usage they arbitrarily consider too much. And if this were a genuinely defined “Unlimited Data Plan”, it should not matter.

I am under a 2-year contract with AT&T’s grandfathered “Unlimited Data Plan”. I pay on time each and every month for this signed, committed, and contracted wireless service. I have also recently paid to upgrade my handset to an iPhone 4S for the express purpose optimizing my data speeds and enhancing my data performance.

AT&T banners itself as a “Network of Possibilities” offering 2 layers of network technology that deliver 4G or “Fourth-Generation Wireless” speeds that encompass HPSA+ (High Speed Packet Access Plus) and LTE (Long Term Evolution) wireless technologies. Yet, AT&T is limiting my data by invoking “Bandwidth Throttling” and/or “Bandwidth Capping” at rates that are considerably less than even accepted 3G speeds.

“Unlimited” is defined by Merriam-Webster as:

1. lacking any controls : unrestricted
2. boundless, infinite

I believe that AT&T has knowingly misled their customer base by falsely offering an “Unlimited Data Plan” to capture early market-share. To now compensate, AT&T is now imposing intentional and substantial data limits. I believe that AT&T has oversubscribed their network capabilities while failing to upgrade their network capacities to support current market demand. We the customers are left holding-the-bag because AT&T has failed in the proper “Capacity Planning” and “Capacity Execution” of their network.


*** Additionally ***

(1) Be Sure To File An "Informal Complaint" vs. a "Formal Complaint". An Informal Complaints Insures That There Is No Cost To You. A Formal Complaint Is Used To Lay The Groundwork For A Law Suit ... Big $$$.


(2) Be Sure To Use The Term "Violations of Policies That Are In Development". This Covers Grey Areas Which Are Yet To Be Defined Under Current Laws.


The FCC Is Taking Notice ... We Need To Get The Number Of Complaints To A Level Where It Becomes One Of Their Top Issues.



dude your my new hero

can i use your words
 
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now its a contest to see how much data i can rack up per month

party on garth
 
Thanks Vaughn

I am going to call the FCC later today.

I hope we can rattle the cages at at&t
 
how to fight att on throttling

disclaimer: dear trolls, this forum is intended for those of us, unlimited data customers (17 million), who believe throttling is wrong and are willing to fight back (as in stand up to the #attFail bully). we are not interested in your opinions or love for this greedy corporation, who doesn't appreciate its' loyal customers. so, please (respectfully) move along.

now ... dear fellow, unlimited data "planners". we are 17 million strong, we have the right to fight back and we have already managed to bring this issue up to main stream media.
the goal of this fight is to raise or remove the ridiculously low 2gb data limit (i believe 5gb would be a fair data cap) and make our $650+ iPhones usable once again.

here are my findings and suggestions on how to win this battle:
(you won't even have to leave the comfort of your office chair :) )

- ask for a written proof of the 5% claim - from my conversations with customer support and reading every single thread on the issue here; att is accusing us of abusing their network. however, i find it hard to believe that using 2gb of data is indeed abuse, especially since they recently changed their data plans to: 300mb, 3gb & 5gb ... implying that 2 out of 3 options new customers have - use more then 3gb of data (66%).
you have to ask in writing - since asking customer support for proof will be met with ... nonsense responses red of a computer screen:
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- how is 5% determined?
- what is the average data usage for all smartphone users on your entire US ATT network, per month, on average? (please provide a monthly report for the past year)
- what is the average data usage for all smartphone users in my network, per month, on average? (please provide a monthly report for the past year)​
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(if any of you would be kind enough to write up such letter, so we can all use as example, that would be wonderful - as you can clearly see i'm no english major)

Here's the address (certified mail of course):
AT&T Service,
PO Box 204089,
Austin, Texas 78720-4089.


- obtain a copy of your contract signed by ATT & you - you'll have to contact the original ATT store you have made the purchase from. of course easiest would be to find it in your files (i'm still looking)


you can also
- call customer "service" - while this might seems obvious, but it will just waist 1/2 h of your time. you will be transferred to a "data consultant", who will read a legal response of a computer screen.
att decided they do not want us, loyal customers to be entitled to the same benefits as their, shiny, new Data Pro 5GB plan customers. they want you out. we are an inconvenience to them, and they treat you as such (even though they didn't mind us paying every, expensive bill for over 5 years).

- sign this petition on change org - 700+ people have signed already, at a rate of 300 / month
- submit a complaint to FCC - be ready to receive a call back from att, when you do
- you can also: better business bureau, consumer watchdog, fox is on your side, consumerist, etc

- attempt to raise the 2gb, 5% average by using as much data as you can, once you do get throttled - while some consider this immature, unfortunately is the only proactive option (ATT will not negotiate or reason with you otherwise).
here are my tips on how to use up to 1GB of data a day over the Edge
- switch your market - submit your data usage / market. there's a theory that only big cities get throttled & CT, TX, OH, UT do not or have much higher data cap (5gb +). if true, technically you can switch to one of those markets & receive the benefit of a higher data cap (any anyone tries this, please let us know if it works).


good luck to you all!

ps: while the premise of this thread is to "fight" - to be fair, i will state that of course you have an option to give up and cancel the service with att.
be warned that they will try to extort $375 cancellation free from you in the process. see links in my signature: alternative providers (e.g. $60 - 2gb of data & all else unlimited), how not to pay ETF
 
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This is getting rediculous, if you don't like it, take your business elsewhere...

But of courswe you won't, because the funny thing is you won't get better either way...

Sprint is unlimited but awfully slow all the time
Verizion only gives you 2gigs for $30
So you're best bet is either pay $30 for 3gb or suck it up and keep unlimited.

/thread
 
AT&T, throttling and unlimited data plans.... something you can do

I just signed this petition at change.org and I would suggest that anyone else who is pissed about AT&T and their throttling practices lately sign it too and get the word out. As someone wrote in a blog I just read, "If there aren't enough seats at the table, don't invite more people!".

http://www.change.org/petitions/att-data-throttle
 
I find it interesting how the mods have closed some ATT throttling threads when they were still going strong.

I realize they said that there were to many, but it is a users forum and if thats what people want to talk about then why shut down threads with over 15 pages and still going?

Do you think ATT placed some pressure on MR to stop the chatter?

Like I said in a post on one of those threads, even ATT trolls were helping the issue, because they kept the threads alive, now the next day and the threads are killed even though obviously people are interested in them.

I also saw an article on fox about throttling yesterday.

Seems very odd to me, or at the very least extremely coincidental:rolleyes:
 
I find it interesting how the mods have closed some ATT throttling threads when they were still going strong.

I realize they said that there were to many, but it is a users forum and if thats what people want to talk about then why shut down threads with over 15 pages and still going?

Do you think ATT placed some pressure on MR to stop the chatter?

Like I said in a post on one of those threads, even ATT trolls were helping the issue, because they kept the threads alive, now the next day and the threads are killed even though obviously people are interested in them.

I also saw an article on fox about throttling yesterday.

Seems very odd to me, or at the very least extremely coincidental:rolleyes:

Then we just keep it going here. If you had some good points and strong arguments then repeat them. Keep the issue up front and fresh in everyones minds.
 
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