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Torn between Air M2 and Pro 14 - Any news on the horizon?
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Why not aim for the lighter phone then too?
What is that exactly? Lighter is lighter what ever the thing is that you carry with you, if the weight is an issue in the begin with.
Offtopic, Joan please giggle. I love to hear her giggling.
This is why I bought a good coffee machine, don't want to be that person lol
Same here. Did that already when I had my Air M1.
The idea that some who buys an iPhone Pro Max should buy a MacBook Pro or of you buy an MacBook Air you should buy a regular iPhone is an odd idea.
A phone is very different than a laptop. For some of us that are older we need a larger screen to see. Weight being an issue is less prominent on a small device than a laptop. So there seems to be a bit of conflation that if you buy a larger heavier phone you should be okay with a heavier and larger laptop. Those are also kind of marketing ideas in my opinion. Also there is a big difference between a 6.7" screen and 13"-16" and the difference between 13" and 16" are not as significant as a larger phone screen. Although now that the regular iPhone is 6.1" I could get away with it but the 6.4-6.7" is the sweet spot for me.
I use my phone in a very different way and sometimes it is the only device I have so speed and screen size are way more important on a phone.
However if I could get away with a cheaper phone I would.
Also in terms of cost. I hear a lot of people talking about if the Pro Model laptop costs as much as the air you should just get the Pro because it is "better".
This idea that the "Pro" model is better if cost is the same is something said a lot without much thought behind it. The Pro model might better depending on what a person's personal preferences are and their use case.
Generally speaking the Pro model is always more expensive when we are talking closer to the release. For example whenever the next MacBook Pros are announced they will have M2 chips just like the current M2 air and cost significantly more than the air and by the time the new Pros are released there will be more discounts on the M2 airs. And if you are comparing like for like the MacBook airs with M1 chip are considerably less expensive than the base Model M1 MBP 14". Today I saw the base model M1 air for $799 on Amazon which is half the price of the base model 14" MBA. So if cost is the major concern the M1 MBA is a sweet deal.
Personally I prioritize things like having a newer design, brighter screen, magsafe, and newer chip over cost alone. Also you can find discounts on the new M2 MBA on different configurations as well making the discounted M1 MBP slightly more expensive. If I was a type of user who prioritized power over footprint and weight and actually used and needed it and I was looking for a laptop now or in the next few months I would buy the new M2 MBP 16" and wait it out because I prioritize the better performance of the M2 in cpu and gpu over the M1. If I was someone coming from an Intel MBP I would probably just enjoy the savings and get a M1 16" MBP. I would never buy the base model because performance is something I prioritize.
A phone is very different than a laptop. For some of us that are older we need a larger screen to see. Weight being an issue is less prominent on a small device than a laptop. So there seems to be a bit of conflation that if you buy a larger heavier phone you should be okay with a heavier and larger laptop. Those are also kind of marketing ideas in my opinion. Also there is a big difference between a 6.7" screen and 13"-16" and the difference between 13" and 16" are not as significant as a larger phone screen. Although now that the regular iPhone is 6.1" I could get away with it but the 6.4-6.7" is the sweet spot for me.
I use my phone in a very different way and sometimes it is the only device I have so speed and screen size are way more important on a phone.
However if I could get away with a cheaper phone I would.
Also in terms of cost. I hear a lot of people talking about if the Pro Model laptop costs as much as the air you should just get the Pro because it is "better".
This idea that the "Pro" model is better if cost is the same is something said a lot without much thought behind it. The Pro model might better depending on what a person's personal preferences are and their use case.
Generally speaking the Pro model is always more expensive when we are talking closer to the release. For example whenever the next MacBook Pros are announced they will have M2 chips just like the current M2 air and cost significantly more than the air and by the time the new Pros are released there will be more discounts on the M2 airs. And if you are comparing like for like the MacBook airs with M1 chip are considerably less expensive than the base Model M1 MBP 14". Today I saw the base model M1 air for $799 on Amazon which is half the price of the base model 14" MBA. So if cost is the major concern the M1 MBA is a sweet deal.
Personally I prioritize things like having a newer design, brighter screen, magsafe, and newer chip over cost alone. Also you can find discounts on the new M2 MBA on different configurations as well making the discounted M1 MBP slightly more expensive. If I was a type of user who prioritized power over footprint and weight and actually used and needed it and I was looking for a laptop now or in the next few months I would buy the new M2 MBP 16" and wait it out because I prioritize the better performance of the M2 in cpu and gpu over the M1. If I was someone coming from an Intel MBP I would probably just enjoy the savings and get a M1 16" MBP. I would never buy the base model because performance is something I prioritize.
I find phone weight issue actually showing more than that of a laptop. Heavy phone makes shirt pocket hang badly. I have an iPhone Pro. Weight of the laptop does not matter to me (I actually prefer heavier due to more solid chassis over flexing flimsy ones), since I’m not putting it in my pocket and I have strenght to carry it if I need to take it with me.
Offtopic, Joan please giggle. I love to hear her giggling. ;D
Everybody has different priorities.
However the weight difference between the iPhone Pro Max and iPhone are not very large.
You would probably need an iPhone 13 se. Or an Android phone with aluminum and smaller screen and glasstic to get to a weight where it might not hang badly.
Personally I don't care what my phone looks like in my pocket. But that is me.
Very similar in relation to subject.
What is an Android phone?
Me neither but I care how my clothes look on me and hanging pocket on one side of the shirt looks dum.
I am a big guy so my pockets usually don't have an issue. I generally put the phone in my back pocket or a jacket if I am not using it.
Any phone would look out of place in a shirt pocket? Never even tried.
Android phones are great. I use a 13 pro max and s22 plus and enjoy them both for different reasons. You should try one someday?
Also I disagree that a 6.1" phone is very different from a 6.7" phone in terms of weight for daily use but again that is my experience and obviously not yours.
Any phone would look out of place in a shirt pocket? Never even tried.
Android phones are great. I use a 13 pro max and s22 plus and enjoy them both for different reasons. You should try one someday?
Also I disagree that a 6.1" phone is very different from a 6.7" phone in terms of weight for daily use but again that is my experience and obviously not yours.
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There’s no difference in chassis strength between the M2 air and M2 Pro.
I agree. Had a 14" and 16" MBP and now an M2 Air. They are all super solid but the air is much more manageable and light in comparison without feeling flimsy, creeking or flexing.
Buy the air.
The refresh rate is not the killer. It’s the hdr display. If you’ve never seen it and value portability and no fan my suggestion is do not under any circumstance look at hdr video on a pro, save the money and buy an air.
do you actually have data to back that claim up or is it just speculation.
lol it's not even that much money saved. in fact same spec wise in the states its the same price.
I was at a store that had both in stock yesterday. The screen on the MBP14 is great, but the low weight and form factor of the Air M2 is very compelling.
Rumors have it that new MBP's will be released in october, but I highly doubt that it will affect MBA M2 prices as those machines are still new on the market.
Rumors have it that new MBP's will be released in october, but I highly doubt that it will affect MBA M2 prices as those machines are still new on the market.
You actually had both machines side by side and how exactly you tried that to come up with that statement?
For me, the difference is obvious.
As I said, I was talking about shirt pocket (the one on the chest). I don't like keeping phone in back pocket and jacket is not good as I don't usually wear jacket inside house or similar places where you don't need jacket.
Really? Are you talking about those "Samsungs" and such? You can actually use them in Apple Ecosystem and I can pair my Apple Watch Ultra on it as well as all features Apple Ecosystem supports? I was not aware of that. Anyway, from what I have briefly touched those "Samsungs" I rather stick rusty nail in my "Johnson" than buy one of them.
Obviously one should compare different versions with same size displays against each other (6.1" vs 6.1" and so on).
But I prefer iPhone Pro's myself. My point for the whole thing this discussion started was that weight of a laptop is not an issue for me, as neither MBP or MBA fits in my pocket and I would carry them in a bag, and small difference in weight is meaningless then for me. However phone is something I carry in my pocket(s) and there weight would actually mean something. I would very much prefect lighter iPhone PRO myself.
I have had the M1 MBP 14", and two 16" and now the M2 MBA and the only difference is the M2 MBA is lighter but just as solid and rigid.
Well okay.
I am glad you are open minded about Android.
Samsung has a similar Ecosystem. Apple is better in a lot of ways but Android isn't as bad as you make it out to be. But to each his own.
And my opinion on the weight of different devices like phones and laptops is opposite of yours.
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Interesting. It would be interesting for me to test your MBA M2. I have tested several demo units myself and always found obvious difference between MBA M2 and MBP 14". Maybe you got a special golden sample.
Exactly how? From my experience if anything is different between my own and demo unit, is that demo units are usually the best ones in terms of production quality and similar things.
lol my collegue's m2 mba already has a bend on the corner. the smaller and thinner chassis of the m2 mba definitely isn't as rigid as the mbp chassis.