True iCloud push email in iOS 7

Discussion in 'iOS 7' started by MacDevil7334, Jul 25, 2013.

  1. MacDevil7334 macrumors 6502a


    Oct 15, 2011
    Austin TX
    Since the death of exchange gmail, I have been thinking of switching back to iCloud email. I miss having push email on my iOS devices and don't want to use the gmail app since I also have a work email account on my phone. I tried using iCloud email back when it first came out with iOS 5 but stopped using it because it wasn't true push. By that, I mean new emails push to all my devices fine. But, if I read my email on my iPhone it still showed as unread on my iPad until I opened the mail app. This got very annoying very quickly so I stuck with gmail since you could get true push through exchange at the time.

    My question is has this been fixed in iOS 7? I know that iOS 7 introduces synced app notifications across devices and I'm hoping this applies to iCloud email as well. Can anyone tell me if this is the case? Thanks!
  2. boshii macrumors 68040


    Jul 6, 2008
    Atlanta, GA
    I don't have the answer to your question but have you tried the Mailbox app?

    I was disappointed as well when exchange gmail died, but this app replaces it perfectly for me.
  3. gr8tfly, Jul 25, 2013
    Last edited: Jul 25, 2013

    gr8tfly macrumors 603


    Oct 29, 2006
    ~119W 34N
    It works fine in iOS 6.

    Read an email on Mac, it shows as read on the iPad - and vice-versa. Delete works across devices as well. It happens almost instantly, for instance I was watching Mail on the Mac, while on the iPad, I marked a previously read email as un-read. The status changed on to unread on the Mac almost before my finger left the iPad button. Same behavior between iPad and iPhone.

    edit: I see what you're talking about now - it's the badge that doesn't get updated on iOS.
  4. MacDevil7334 thread starter macrumors 6502a


    Oct 15, 2011
    Austin TX
    IIRC Mailbox is gmail only at the moment. I'm trying to avoid a second mail app as I also have an exchange account for work on my phone and would like all my mailboxes in one place.
  5. ntrigue macrumors 68040


    Jul 30, 2007
    Maybe I'm not as discerning but:

    a) Check email at set times per day for better productivity by opening Mail with Push off.
    b) Even though GMail is Fetch when Push is on it only takes 30-90 seconds to come in.
  6. MoparShaha macrumors 68000


    May 15, 2003
    San Francisco
    OP, the behavior you're describing still exists in iOS 7. It bothers me too. I ended up paying for Google Apps and taking out my own domain name.
  7. ravenvii macrumors 604


    Mar 17, 2004
    Melenkurion Skyweir
    If you're NOT in the Mail app, and read an email on another device, the badge with the number of unread mail remains. You have to open the app to get it to update.

    That's what he is talking about.
  8. BroadcastDoc macrumors 6502


    Nov 22, 2008
    Milwaukee, WI
    That doesn't qualify it as not "true push email" however.
  9. dictoresno macrumors 601


    Apr 30, 2012
    i switched over to icloud from gmail. its push function works perfectly fine for me, and i even like the icloud UI over gmail on the website. i have zero issues with it and im glad i switched.
  10. SanjeevRana macrumors 6502a


    Aug 2, 2011
    The same behaviour exists and I suspect Apple may change it with next update to iCloud Web Services (backend)... Dont see it happening in GM as well :(
  11. fortheus macrumors regular

    Jul 11, 2012
    If I remember correctly, they mentioned about notification sync for iOS7, but since this also requires backend update, we'll what it looks like once it's fully released.

    Why no one tries It's fully EAS.

    I switched to once gmail kill their active sync.

    Not a fan of Microsoft, but they deserve good credit for their
  12. SanjeevRana macrumors 6502a


    Aug 2, 2011
    Are you able to add contact pic from the web interface now ? It has been some time for me now but it was the biggest flaw IMO
  13. fortheus macrumors regular

    Jul 11, 2012
    I agree for the grieve of adding photo limitation in outlook contact, but I always managed my contact with mac/icloud.

    Apple contact management are much better (custom label, notes, relationship, etc).

    The one that I recommend only their mail (as per topic)
  14. keviny macrumors newbie

    Dec 6, 2012
    Forgive my ignorance but when did the exchange for gmail stop working?

    I'm using exchange for gmail all the time, and it pushed very well.;)
  15. SanjeevRana macrumors 6502a


    Aug 2, 2011
    Jan sometime I think .... only works if you kept using the account ever since before its decomission or you have Google Apps Account
  16. whsbuss macrumors 68040


    May 4, 2010
    SE Penna.
    #16 works great on iOS devices. However its only POP on the Mac.


    Support for gmail exchange stopped on Jan. 31 this year. As long as you use devices registered before that date exchange will continue to work.
  17. MacDevil7334 thread starter macrumors 6502a


    Oct 15, 2011
    Austin TX
    This is true with one caveat: Google considers major OS upgrades to be the same as registering a new device. When I upgraded to iOS 7, I could no longer set up exchange gmail on my iPhone even though I had it with iOS 6.
  18. megalaser macrumors 6502


    Nov 17, 2009
    Switching from iCloud to Gmail is not easy if you have a lot of mail already in iCloud, there is no import tool in Gmail that supports importing iCloud messages (and folders ect) - I have tried many times manually in the desktop mail app by dragging mail from iCloud to Gmail and it hangs every time. I have something like 200k emails in iCloud and I can't find any way to get them into Gmail so i can migrate over.
  19. Daveoc64 macrumors 601

    Jan 16, 2008
    Bristol, UK
    The reason that this happens is because iCloud Mail just uses IMAP with some proprietary extensions.

    IMAP has no concept of "push mail" built in, so it's not possible for device X to be notified when device Y has "read" a message.

    That's not going to change unless Apple radically overhauls how iCloud Mail works.
  20. joshforman macrumors regular

    Aug 11, 2012
    I'm pretty sure you could still use gmail push if you have been. It's my understanding that only new gmail accounts cannot be configured as exchange. I'm still using mine on my devices.
  21. charlituna macrumors G3


    Jun 11, 2008
    Los Angeles, CA
    I'm confused about something

    You keep talking about iCloud email and gmail.
    So are you talking about an email or a gmail through the iOS mail app. Because they aren't the same thing.

    If the latter, it's because of gmail's settings. They have hobbled other apps because they want you to use their gmail app. It's even that way for ages
  22. stoney05 macrumors regular

    Sep 26, 2011
    I made a new hotmail account and told gmail to forward my emails to the new account.

    And now I have exchange again.
  23. hobsgrg macrumors 6502


    Jun 26, 2010
    Only existing DEVICES not accounts, so although it got turned off in Jan for new devices you can continue using it on all your current devices. However once you upgrade to a new phone you won't be able to configure it for exchange.
  24. saberahul macrumors 68040

    Nov 6, 2008
    Was in same boat - switched to Outlook and it works perfectly.
  25. SpyderBite macrumors 65816


    Oct 4, 2011
    I have my own domains and mail servers so I run imap on all my accounts so that they're all synchronized real-time. Not really push, but meh, my stored mail in folders is organized on all my devices apple and otherwise.

    iCloud also has an imap option btw for people looking for server side storage and organization of their email.

    Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 2

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