TrueDepth Camera System is Primary Reason for Slow iPhone X Production

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  1. MacRumors macrumors bot


    Apr 12, 2001

    Following a report claiming Apple's suppliers are shipping only about 40 percent of the components originally planned for initial production of the iPhone X, a new report suggests the TrueDepth camera is the primary bottleneck.


    The word comes from KGI Securities analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who said the facial recognition system is "far more complex" than those on competing devices, which is making it challenging for Apple to achieve mass production.

    An excerpt from Kuo's research note obtained by MacRumors:
    Kuo said shipments of iPhone X components will likely ramp up in mid to late October. Given pre-orders begin October 27, with in-store availability starting November 3, all signs point towards the iPhone X being in extremely short supply.

    Kuo believes iPhone X pre-orders have the potential to exceed 40-50 million units, so it's clear the device won't achieve supply-chain balance for quite awhile.

    Article Link: TrueDepth Camera System is Primary Reason for Slow iPhone X Production
  2. vertsix macrumors 65816


    Aug 12, 2015
    doesn't apple have like $200 billion in the bank? like jesus christ buy some factories, companies, or whatever to get production what it needs to be smh
  3. BulkSlash macrumors regular


    Aug 20, 2013
    Presumably if I pre-order early on the 17th I'll get one a few weeks before the iPhone 11 launches?
  4. vannibombonato macrumors 6502

    Jun 14, 2007
    40-50 million of PreOrders would honestly be just insane. We're talking 40-50 Billions of sales....

    It'll be a hell of fun this year to watch the launch day crazyness, scalpers, etc.
    --- Post Merged, Sep 25, 2017 ---
    That is like saying "hey, why Samsung can't just go out and buy someone who can make a phone better than the iPhone?"

    At the moment they are probably the only ones on earth who have the know-how to manufacture the thing. They are probably literally learning how the thing can be made, there's no manual for this type of stuff. They can't just hire an expert, they are the experts.
  5. jsmith189 macrumors 65816


    Jan 12, 2014
    Are we just gonna have a 30 minute production update cycle until release day? Lol
  6. pat500000, Sep 25, 2017
    Last edited: Sep 25, 2017

    pat500000 Suspended


    Jun 3, 2015
    I wonder what jeff williams have to say about this.

    edit: Forget it. Tim should fire him.
  7. questionmark32 macrumors regular

    Sep 23, 2013
    Something must have happened where they decided later than normal that they wanted to do Face ID over Touch ID. The fact that the couldn't get Touch ID underneath the screen forced them to use their backup technology that they may have been planning for future iPhones, but not for the X
  8. garethjs macrumors 6502a

    Nov 11, 2008
    This thing is going to be delayed till end of November by the looks of it.
  9. ghostface147 macrumors 68030


    May 28, 2008
    Makes sense. I guess it'll be in stock easily in the spring 2018.
  10. blahbrah macrumors 6502

    Nov 9, 2006
    November 2018
  11. Jetfire macrumors 6502

    Jul 10, 2008
    Cincinnati, Ohio, USA
    Ok this isn't TV you can't build a factory overnight. Apple is pushing tech to the limits here. It takes years of planning. Look at what happen with sapphire glass supplier a couple years back.
  12. Sunny1990 Suspended


    Feb 13, 2015
    I am getting iPhone X but I suspect the delays and supply will be so bad at launch that most likely no one will have get until next year
  13. Swazaloo macrumors regular

    Jan 3, 2014
    If Apple owned the factories, they wouldn't be able to get away with the slave labour that is Chinese manufacturing.
  14. Iconoclysm macrumors 68020


    May 13, 2010
    Washington, DC
    Aside from the ridiculousness of this statement, Apple has done these things.
  15. MistrSynistr macrumors 65816

    May 15, 2014
    So get this, the design model that should of been the choice for ALL the iPhones this year is delayed due to a "feature" literally no one wanted or asked for.
  16. Dades macrumors member


    May 24, 2010
    Dublin, Ireland
    And miss out on all the huge queues and hype around who has and hasn't got one? No, better to have short supply and drip feed the masses while they save up to pay for it.
  17. Iconoclysm macrumors 68020


    May 13, 2010
    Washington, DC
    This is my guess as well.
  18. bobob macrumors 68030


    Jan 11, 2008
    Only when it's bad news/rumors.

    (Good news doesn't generate clicks/$$$.)
  19. Fzang macrumors 65816


    Jun 15, 2013
    The workers assemble it, and spend another 20 minutes asking around, shuffling through manuals and calling their supervisors to see if their iPhone X also has a weird notch at the top, and if it’s supposed to be that way.

    My take on what’s causing the slowdown.
  20. Rogifan macrumors Core


    Nov 14, 2011
    What does Samsung have to do with the true depth camera?
  21. rGiskard macrumors 68000


    Aug 9, 2012

    Very likely. Honestly I'd have preferred an 8 Plus with OLED display and touch ID in the lower bezel. Minimize the top bezel for more display area. I don't care if it isn't symmetric.
  22. Rayban macrumors 6502


    Sep 5, 2008
    The more I think about this logic the more I don't believe it. If they wanted to keep touch ID they could have put in in the back for the time being then introduce the ID under the screen as a huge new feature. I believe that their intent is to make Face ID the norm.
  23. Gudi macrumors 68030


    May 3, 2013
    Berlin, Berlin
    iPhone X = Xpensive
    iPhone VX = Very Xpensive
    iPhone MMXVIII ...
  24. AlphaGuitarist macrumors 6502a


    Nov 12, 2014
    News like this makes me wonder if the iPhone X was ready for primetime. I will be preordering one, regardless, but this doesn't sound too promising.
  25. Rogifan macrumors Core


    Nov 14, 2011
    This isn’t true. Craig Federighi told John Gruber Touch ID under the display was plan B. Gruber also confirmed the same with Apple engineers who said they’ve been working on Face iD for over a year.

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