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Expanding government healthcare seems to have been more successful in every other first world country. The US is different, fine but why?
Greed. Plain and simple. Health care used to be affordable in the US, back in the 50's-60's.
The income gap which encourages crime should be looked at, especially as those that have money don't pay their fair share and actively collude with the rule makers to keep the money amongst themselves.
Ah the System. People keep saying the System is broken. No, it's working exactly how the rich wants it to work. It keeps the poor poor. It has exhausted the poor. Now it's targeting the once robust middle class. The extinction of the middle class will happen in our lifetime if we don't do something about the System.
What happens when Joe Public avoids taxes? He gets hammered but Rich Joe Public scams, delays and obfuscates.
The IRS knows how much taxes we owe. They could just bill us at the beginning of the year, but NOoooOOOooo...the Rich don't want a fair and equitable tax code. They want what we have so they can hide their wealth.

There is a building in the Cayman Island that uses the Doctor's Tardis technology to house 40,000 businesses.🤭
 
Yeah, why should anyone complain about a felon, an adjudicated rapist with a long history of abusing women, and long history of racism, and a long history of stiffing creditors, and with ideations of being a dictator?
Pure delusion!
 
That happens when stupidity and evil unite and start ruling a country. People should get angry and afraid. I can only hope for more TDS.
Except ofcourse when your definition of TDS is that of unwavering, uncritical support for Trump policies. In that case that should disappear totally.
It’s difficult to fight stupidity.
US society has become very polarized. I don’t consider that a good thing but this didn’t just fall from the sky. There’s a reason for it…MAGA policies by Trump.
It’s the far left liberals full of delusion that are the issue. Wake up!
 
I challenge you to prove this with facts. If you cannot, then I consider this a childish, meaningless cry from kindergarten.
The fact is, he is not any of such labels you said that he is. You just suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome and feed your mind with the mainstream biased media with their hysteria.
 
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The fact is, he is not any of such labels you said that he is. You just suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome and feed your mind with the mainstream biased media with their hysteria.
Pfff Again a trump voter who cannot explain himself, not prove what he said, doesn't know, etc. It sure is a pattern.
I asked you for proving your statement. You clearly cannot.
No surprise I guess.
Have a good life and byebye.
 
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Well, to be fair, while the Dems by and large are a center left and practical party they do have a few delusional leftists in their ranks. The MAGAs simply ignore the main theme and pretend that the entire D party wants to "defund the police", for instance. While nothing could be further from the truth. Meanwhile the GOP ceased being a center right party a couple of decades ago and has gone off the deep end towards the radical right and now fascism. And not just a few of them. But all except for a few of them.

I know…that’s why I asked him to explain who he means by “delusional left”. He didn’t mean the Democratic Party (or so he said). (read above in comments)
He can not explain who he means.
 
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DOES ANYONE REMEMBER WHEN THIS WAS A APPLE WEBSITE? All this political BS. I dont care..i cant afford too. All i want to know is how much is a damn Ipad going to cost me next month when i SHOULD be able to afford one when i save up enough money and not cost me twice the price cause King Trump the Orange doesnt know what the hell a tariff is anymore then i do!

I mean common people, life is too damn short fighting over this jerk and yes hes a jerk. Hes a moron who thinks he's a genius and is dividing everyone over him because hes a shallow egotistical jerk who has to be the center of attention at any cost.

I miss the good ole days when we would just argue over which was better...Mac or PC! Now we cant afford either one and instead of focusing on that we are at each others throats over a Orange idiot with a bad combover who thought he could change the course of a hurricane with a damn sharpie!

To me its not a political thing. Never was. I still dont know for sure what the hell the difference is between a republican or a democrat! I never really even herd of a tariff until a few years ago and im still not quite sure what the hell it even is despite the countless videos and articles ive read of people trying to explain it to me.

All i know is im not a rich man, i wasnt born into a wealthy family, i live on a fixed income and it takes me months to save up to buy apple products and the only reason im even really loyal to apple is because they are reliable computers that usually last for years and you get a quality machine for what you pay for.

If i was a wealthy man id own both a PC and mac. An Android and a Iphone. I like all technology but i feel apple gives me the most value for my money, but the problem is i dont even know if my money is worth what they say it is or if it will be enough in 2 weeks to afford what i want!

Trump doing this and that is horrible. I dont like the guy. I never will. Hes a liar and a con man and an idiot pure and simple and that has nothing to do with Republican vs Democrat. It has nothing to do with left wing or right wing..it has to do with morals and values and truths and lies. Nothing more.

The guy gives me severe anxiety and yes i have a medically diagnosed anxiety disorder thats hard to manage some days, and apple products are the one thing that still brings me some joy and excitement in my life even if i cant afford most of them without saving for a while and i just want the prices on them, AND EVERYTHING stable and i dont think im asking too much.

Its not fair to me or you that we have to be "Punished" for lack of a better word because we elected a rich idiot who has no comprehension or compassion what so ever about living a normal non wealthy life. He was born rich. He never once ever had to worry about how to pay the rent or how to put food on the table or make sure the light and heat stay on durring the winter or god forbid how to afford medication if he gets sick.

To him, everything was handed to him and he was always protected or bailed out when he screwed up and never once went hungry or wasnt able to get what he wanted because he couldn't afford it no matter how hard he worked or tried to save.

And here we are all tribalistic over this jerk who could care less about any of us personally what so ever. He got what he wanted from us...our votes (for those who voted for him) and now its all about what he wants regardless of who it hurts in the process.

And we are going to argue over this guy? Be tribal over someone who dispises us and has used us to benifit himself? are you all kidding me?

Its one thing to playfully joke about which computer or gaming system or what ever we like. Thats the internet and human nature sadly.

But chances are we can say these things in good humor because we can afford them and use these products daily and most of us had to work hard for them, but we defend these items because on some level they serve us and bring us some level of genuine joy. Sure there are flaws with them or they should do this or that or what ever and those are valid points.

But those things can and often do improve because we speak our mind on forums like this and maybe an Apple Engineer or designer hears us and takes the ideas we offer and hopefully makes a better product.

But fighting over someone who could care less about us who we gave so much power, is pointless cause hes going to do what hes going to do as long as it benefits him.

So i dont see the point in fighting and attacking one another over someone who could care less if we can afford a product without his name on it, let alone cares if we live or die based off his idiotic choices.

Cant we all see that and try to just get along and see the forrest for the trees whats going on here?
 
DOES ANYONE REMEMBER WHEN THIS WAS A APPLE WEBSITE? All this political BS. I dont care..i cant afford too.
It's tedious for the rest of the world, too, believe me, but politics is exactly why you don't know how much your prospective Apple purchases are going to cost from one day to the next. Burying your head in the sand and pretending not to care is exactly why the US has got into the state it has.
 
It's tedious for the rest of the world, too, believe me, but politics is exactly why you don't know how much your prospective Apple purchases are going to cost from one day to the next. Burying your head in the sand and pretending not to care is exactly why the US has got into the state it has.
I do care but its hard to understand something when its so confusing and changes constantly.
 
It isn't being "tribal" and this isn't really political. Trump is literally destroying the world economy, bringing on a recession and disadvantaging the US economically, intellectually, and reputationally for the long term over misguided policies that simply won't and can't work.


And we are going to argue over this guy? Be tribal over someone who dispises us and has used us to benifit himself? are you all kidding me?


Cant we all see that and try to just get along and see the forrest for the trees whats going on here?
 
It isn't being "tribal" and this isn't really political. Trump is literally destroying the world economy, bringing on a recession and disadvantaging the US economically, intellectually, and reputationally for the long term over misguided policies that simply won't and can't work.
oh i totally agree with you there. Its sad we live in an age where one person can have that much power to do it...out of spite too!
 
DOES ANYONE REMEMBER WHEN THIS WAS A APPLE WEBSITE? All this political BS. I dont care..i cant afford too. All i want to know is how much is a damn Ipad going to cost me next month when i SHOULD be able to afford one when i save up enough money and not cost me twice the price cause King Trump the Orange doesnt know what the hell a tariff is anymore then i do!

I mean common people, life is too damn short fighting over this jerk and yes hes a jerk. Hes a moron who thinks he's a genius and is dividing everyone over him because hes a shallow egotistical jerk who has to be the center of attention at any cost.

I miss the good ole days when we would just argue over which was better...Mac or PC! Now we cant afford either one and instead of focusing on that we are at each others throats over a Orange idiot with a bad combover who thought he could change the course of a hurricane with a damn sharpie!

To me its not a political thing. Never was. I still dont know for sure what the hell the difference is between a republican or a democrat! I never really even herd of a tariff until a few years ago and im still not quite sure what the hell it even is despite the countless videos and articles ive read of people trying to explain it to me.

All i know is im not a rich man, i wasnt born into a wealthy family, i live on a fixed income and it takes me months to save up to buy apple products and the only reason im even really loyal to apple is because they are reliable computers that usually last for years and you get a quality machine for what you pay for.

If i was a wealthy man id own both a PC and mac. An Android and a Iphone. I like all technology but i feel apple gives me the most value for my money, but the problem is i dont even know if my money is worth what they say it is or if it will be enough in 2 weeks to afford what i want!

Trump doing this and that is horrible. I dont like the guy. I never will. Hes a liar and a con man and an idiot pure and simple and that has nothing to do with Republican vs Democrat. It has nothing to do with left wing or right wing..it has to do with morals and values and truths and lies. Nothing more.

The guy gives me severe anxiety and yes i have a medically diagnosed anxiety disorder thats hard to manage some days, and apple products are the one thing that still brings me some joy and excitement in my life even if i cant afford most of them without saving for a while and i just want the prices on them, AND EVERYTHING stable and i dont think im asking too much.

Its not fair to me or you that we have to be "Punished" for lack of a better word because we elected a rich idiot who has no comprehension or compassion what so ever about living a normal non wealthy life. He was born rich. He never once ever had to worry about how to pay the rent or how to put food on the table or make sure the light and heat stay on durring the winter or god forbid how to afford medication if he gets sick.

To him, everything was handed to him and he was always protected or bailed out when he screwed up and never once went hungry or wasnt able to get what he wanted because he couldn't afford it no matter how hard he worked or tried to save.

And here we are all tribalistic over this jerk who could care less about any of us personally what so ever. He got what he wanted from us...our votes (for those who voted for him) and now its all about what he wants regardless of who it hurts in the process.

And we are going to argue over this guy? Be tribal over someone who dispises us and has used us to benifit himself? are you all kidding me?

Its one thing to playfully joke about which computer or gaming system or what ever we like. Thats the internet and human nature sadly.

But chances are we can say these things in good humor because we can afford them and use these products daily and most of us had to work hard for them, but we defend these items because on some level they serve us and bring us some level of genuine joy. Sure there are flaws with them or they should do this or that or what ever and those are valid points.

But those things can and often do improve because we speak our mind on forums like this and maybe an Apple Engineer or designer hears us and takes the ideas we offer and hopefully makes a better product.

But fighting over someone who could care less about us who we gave so much power, is pointless cause hes going to do what hes going to do as long as it benefits him.

So i dont see the point in fighting and attacking one another over someone who could care less if we can afford a product without his name on it, let alone cares if we live or die based off his idiotic choices.

Cant we all see that and try to just get along and see the forrest for the trees whats going on here?
This is supposed to be a political thread. I'm sure most of us here would get along but, as is becoming clear, there seem to be just a few issues being thrown our way.
 
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