Your mad that apple recommended shareholders vote against the proposal to scrap it?… did you read that properly before posting this?
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Trump Responds to Apple Keeping Diversity Policies
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But none of that happened when Biden was president, or Obama, or Bush, or Clinton. they strictly hired people who weren’t loyal to them. 🙄 I can’t believe people use that argument with a straight face.
Wow, couldn’t even bother to discuss what I said. Instead you have to make things up. Enjoy your Apple products. For now I will enjoy mine. Prior to that I enjoyed my Handspring products. Before that Palm. Before that U.S Robotics, and so on. All were untouchable at the time.I'm very happy with my Apple products, despite the occasional annoyance. And so is the market. But keep trying to argue that Apple = Blackberry
I give you modern Apple. Spend some time in these message boards. You’ll learn a lot.
It’s Apple proudly proclaiming how awesome DEI is. Not any of us. We only have the software and hardware failures to show for it. You want proof? The burden is on you to show how DEI had no part in any of it.
I just want to remind everyone on this thread who somehow think racism (even ignoring all the other aspects of DEI policies, like the ADA for instance) is a historic issue, that we are passed it in present day somehow, and that doesnt need further work:
Ruby Bridges is all of 70 years old. You know, this ruby bridges:
With these protestors:
This is her today
Segregation is living memory. A great many folks today grew up, went to school, etc under segregation. And those protestors? A lot of them are still around and voting (I’ll leave which party they tend to vote for these days up to the reader to figure out, it shouldnt be hard).
Sundown towns are living memory
Going to the back of the bus is living memory
Interracial marriage being illegal in much of this country is living memory, Loving v Virginia was all of 58 years ago.
This isnt ancient history, it’s your parents and grandparents, folks
Ruby Bridges is all of 70 years old. You know, this ruby bridges:
With these protestors:
This is her today
Segregation is living memory. A great many folks today grew up, went to school, etc under segregation. And those protestors? A lot of them are still around and voting (I’ll leave which party they tend to vote for these days up to the reader to figure out, it shouldnt be hard).
Sundown towns are living memory
Going to the back of the bus is living memory
Interracial marriage being illegal in much of this country is living memory, Loving v Virginia was all of 58 years ago.
This isnt ancient history, it’s your parents and grandparents, folks
Right because history has always looked favorably on the times when race and social categories were prioritized over a person's qualities... Same shoe, different foot now. Personally, I'll be glad when future generations are asking wtf we were thinking in the late 2010s/2020s with such insane terminology as "pregnant men", "chest feeders", "menstruating person", or how expert engineers weren't hired to build planes because the manufacturers wanted more gIrL pOwEr on the factory floor or whatever, I'll be able to confidently tell them that I never went along with such obvious stupidity.
Agreed that it is a setback of decades. Not sure how average I am since my city only gave Trump 16% of the vote. It is surreal and just like during his first term, I wake up in the morning to check the news, wondering 'what did he say/do now?'. Now I feel the same way about Elon. I thought his first term was chaotic, but it is looking tame compared to just this first month. Thankfully, in California, our governor is doing everything he can to 'Trump Proof' our state laws. You will hear Trump and other republicans say they want less federal government interference, and more letting states decide for themselves. But that's only when it's convenient to them. One of my worries is that he'll probably withhold federal funds and ask for something in return when we need it for the next large wildfire, earthquake or other state of emergency to punish our state (despite California contributing more to federal funds than received back).
Ah, if it isn’t dismissiveness, whataboutism, cherry-picking, and false equivalencies to grossly misrepresent reality. One will always find all 4 as the common threads that unites takes like these.
It’s almost like, “Oh dear lord…” isn’t an argument, or evidence of anything.
This is what happens when people think “well, my relative drank 100oz of soda every day and lived to 100!” is on an equal footing to studying hundreds of thousands—if not millions—of humans for decades.
Says it all, really.
It'd be amazing if people critical of DEI actually took the time to understand, in good faith, what it is and is trying to accomplish.
Providing women and minorities with similar qualifications the same opportunities isn't prioritizing them.
I do.
Hilarious, and convenient!
I’m sure I don’t need to tell you about proving a negative.
You—again—have zero evidence that any DEI-like initiatives have any more impact on the decline of software and hardware quality than the opening of Apple Park, or Jony Ive leaving, or Luca Maestri retiring, or Craig Federighi doing more keynotes, or Steve Jobs dying, or anything else.
These alone are disqualifying—and that’s not limited to DEI, either.
I agree! Too bad that often isn't the case though and they're hired because they look good in PR marketing campaigns on TikTok 🤷♂️
Very loud and clear. Thank you President Trump ! You are the best. 🇺🇸
Thanks for sharing your story and concerns. Good to hear the governor is trying to make your state Trump proof.
I hope the rational people will stay strong and wait for the moment this dictator is put where he belongs.
I once admired Elon Musk for Tesla, spacex and all the other innovative companies he has. But he has transformed into a creepy person too.
Let’s hope this period won’t take too long so the damage stays controllable.
Take care for your friends and family!
Great! That's the focus of most modern DEI programs.
The data disagrees with you. Women and minorities are paid less than white men with similar qualifications, even at companies with DEI programs.
Why should we ignore the fact that racist hiring practices continue to favor white men?
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About the video: regardless, Asian Americans (especially men) often don’t benefit with or without diversity policies
I think the US should have Native American presidents for a change.
Actual Native Americans.
Then maybe we will see a president who loves the soil under their feet and wants to protect their land and all the people on it.
Actual Native Americans.
Then maybe we will see a president who loves the soil under their feet and wants to protect their land and all the people on it.
This has been debunked but keep up the good fight against..nothing. Smash the patriarchy, er..something! Yeah!
Should it be illegal to have unspoken and hidden policies that discriminate on the basis of skin color and gender?
When people start claiming "the right side of history" is when I head for the hills. It's so alarming and un-American.
Totalitarian and communist regimes have frequently justified their actions by claiming to be on the "right side of history," portraying their policies as necessary steps in an inevitable historical process. The Soviet Union under Stalin, for example, used this argument to rationalize purges, collectivization, and censorship, asserting that these measures were essential for building socialism. Similarly, Mao Zedong’s China framed brutal campaigns like the Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution as vital to advancing communism, branding dissenters as obstacles to progress. North Korea continues to use this rhetoric to justify its dictatorship, presenting its policies as part of an unavoidable revolutionary path. The Khmer Rouge in Cambodia took this to an extreme, committing mass killings in pursuit of an agrarian utopia they deemed historically inevitable.
While this argument is strongly associated with Marxist regimes, non-communist totalitarian governments have also invoked historical inevitability to suppress dissent. Fascist Italy and Nazi Germany, for instance, framed their ideologies as part of a national or racial destiny, justifying oppressive policies in the name of progress. More broadly, authoritarian regimes that claim their rule aligns with the course of history often prioritize ideology over governance, leading to disastrous consequences such as mass famine, genocide, and economic collapse. The danger of this mindset lies in its denial of pluralism and alternative viewpoints, allowing leaders to justify oppression under the guise of an unavoidable future.
So Republicans aren’t hiding behind the farce that they’re for “small government”?
And Trump is just a disgusting person. I’m glad shareholders had the balls to disregard his racist administration’s push to end inclusive policies.
And Trump is just a disgusting person. I’m glad shareholders had the balls to disregard his racist administration’s push to end inclusive policies.
Meanwhile, while you are all discussing nominal issues that have much, much less impact than you've been led to believe, Trump and Musk are cutting taxation for the wealthy and dismantling safety nets for the poor and middle class, which will continue the ongoing trend of increasing Wealth Inequality. Which is bad for market economics. It's all meant as a distraction, and you've fallen into the trap, both Left and Right.
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