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Not gonna lie, but the only people who will buy a phone that measures more than 4" are the people who have never owned one.

I OWN the Galaxy S2. I can tell you right now that I will never buy a phone bigger than 4" again. You CAN'T hold it properly. Again I will say this - if the iPhone 4S appears with no redesign, I wouldn't be any less than happy at the thought the screen size has been kept constant.

Feel free to downvote - you'll realize how wrong you are when you buy your Nexus Prime and you can't even slide down the Notifications Bar from the top with your thumb because you can't reach it.

I bet you didn't own it. Initially I thought it was OK, but then I realized it's far too big and has a lot of inconveniences, the biggest one being the inability to easily slide down the notifications bar from the top with one hand.

Your hands must be extremely small. I have a DroidX and love the screen size. My wife has an iphone4 and I cant stand using it because the screen is so small. I will go back to iphone as long as the new one has a 4" screen. If not I will probably go with the GSII.
 
Try sliding down the notifications bar on your HD2, then try sliding down iOS 5's Notification Center on the iPhone 4. Tell me which one is more comfortable. :rolleyes:

Neither is 'more comfortable' because i don't have the hands of a 12 year old boy.
 
I'm not a developer here, but how often does Apple "leak" products via iTunes beta strings?

I've read the rumors about different model numbers appearing in various iOS strings and such, but I didn't take any of them so seriously. But why is it that the these 4S strings are being taken so seriously? Is it not possible that Apple decided not to include any iPhone 5 strings for iTunes and to keep the whole thing a secret?
 
While the aforementioned specs that arn posted just about make the new iphone worthwhile, I'm going to be extremely surprised if there is not a new form factor. If there is both a 4s and a 5, then even better. I for one would like a bigger screen but not bigger than 4". *If* there is a new form factor, I can't see Apple making it bigger than 4". They aren't going to want to blur the form factor lines between the iPhone and iPad.

We will all find out in a few days.
 
I've owned an HD2, a ZTE Blade and an LG Optimus 2x. I didn't have a problem holding any of them. Just because YOU don't like it doesn't mean other people won't. It's all about personal preference.

I think that is a good point, but it is important to remember that it cuts both ways. iPhone is selling very well with a 3.5" screen, and it has a very high retention rate. So, a lot of people like (or are at least ok with) the current screen size.

That's not to say that a lot of people wouldn't want a 4" screen on iPhone. I'm sure there are plenty who would. I am certainly intrigued by it. I'm just saying that there are likely a lot of people that like the 3.5" screen just fine.
 
I think that is a good point, but it is important to remember that it cuts both ways. iPhone is selling very well with a 3.5" screen, and it has a very high retention rate. So, a lot of people like (or are at least ok with) the current screen size.

That's not to say that a lot of people wouldn't want a 4" screen on iPhone. I'm sure there are plenty who would. I am certainly intrigued by it. I'm just saying that there are likely a lot of people that like the 3.5" screen just fine.

Which would justify Apple releasing two phones. One for those happy with their current screen size, and the other seeking a larger screen.


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You have no idea how uncomfortable the SGS2 already is, and the Nexus Prime is even bigger than that. I will never buy it just because I can't even hold it properly.

I wouldn't even call it a phone anymore. It's like a min-tablet that can make calls.

I actually do know how "uncomfortable" the SG2 is to hold since I've been using it for quite some time now....and the answer is not much. It's honestly not as unwieldy as your making it out to be and upon getting it, I actually was shocked since it was around the same size as my previous Captivate. I keep seeing people refer to the Infuse and other phones that have large screens as mini tablet's and that's simply not the case. Especially for a lot of male users with larger hands that would like to comfortably type.

There are plenty of phones around the same size is the iPhone 4 that have larger screens and don't look or feel like a tablet....
 
Ask a developer. The strings are still there.

easily verifiable. TUAW is wrong here.

here's where to find them (AI found them too)

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Do u really think apple would be that STUPID?? After working so hard to keep it a secret they are just going to TOTALLY just blow any mystery (whatever mystery that is) surrounding Tuesday's event. Give apple a little more credit. Sorry to say it, but u are WAY, WAY off on this one...I'll save the "I told u so" until Tuesday.
 
Which would justify Apple releasing two phones. One for those happy with their current screen size, and the other seeking a larger screen.


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From a consumer's perspective, I'd agree. Choice is good and a lot of people would buy an iPhone with a 4" screen.

From Apple's perspective, it is a harder question to answer. It comes down to whether producing iPhones in two different screen sizes would make them more money. I certainly can't say whether they would make more money that way or not. I do feel pretty comfortable in saying that if Apple thinks they can make more money that way, they will do it.
 
Do u really think apple would be that STUPID?? After working so hard to keep it a secret they are just going to TOTALLY just blow any mystery (whatever mystery that is) surrounding Tuesday's event. Give apple a little more credit. Sorry to say it, but u are WAY, WAY off on this one...I'll save the "I told u so" until Tuesday.

You realize that it is relatively common for device info to show up like this and virtually always ends up being correct, right?
 
- iPhone 4S
- Same form factor as iPhone 4
- CDMA and GSM in one phone
- HSPA+ (at least 14.4mbps)
- 1GB RAM
- A5 Processor
- SGX 543MP2 (same as iPad)
- Assistant Voice Recognition

I agree; yes, there will be a 4S.

But there will also be one more thing ... and it will put a dagger in the competition.
 
Not gonna lie, but the only people who will buy a phone that measures more than 4" are the people who have never owned one.

That's opinion, not fact. I've owned an HD2 and the size was great. If your hands are too small to operate it properly then obviously it's not the right phone for you, but don't go making sweeping generalisations based on your own personal preference.
 
I just checked the latest Xcode (Beta 7) and these iPhone 4S references are not in the plist in CoreServices. So maybe the iTunes team messed up and slipped it early.
 
That's opinion, not fact. I've owned an HD2 and the size was great. If your hands are too small to operate it properly then obviously it's not the right phone for you, but don't go making sweeping generalisations based on your own personal preference.

I agree with you; it also would work nicely because the old, likely untrue, rumours pointed to the 4S being a reworked iPhone 4 with the A5 processor and the same screen size and the 5 having a larger screen. This would mean the customer could choose between a 4" screen and a 3.5" screen and have the newest processor either way. However, that was probably always a crazy pipe dream.
 
Try sliding down the notifications bar on your HD2, then try sliding down iOS 5's Notification Center on the iPhone 4. Tell me which one is more comfortable. :rolleyes:

The difference between a 3.5" and 4" screen is 1/2 inch. Factor in Apple's exceptional engineering prowess and that difference can be reduced to 1/4 inch.

I know women with small hands who can comfortably hold their iPhone 4 with cases that add about 1/8 inch. So total net difference between an iPhone 4 with certain cases and an iPhone with a 4" screen is about 1/8 inch.

That's about as negligible as it can get, and would have virtually zero impact on "comfort". I think it potentially starts to become an issue when you get into 4.3" and above ranges.
 
If you seriously think that we'll see an iPhone 4S, then you're sadly mistaken. There is no way Apple would release the same form factor on a model that is over a year old. That's just bad business.
 
If you seriously think that we'll see an iPhone 4S, then you're sadly mistaken. There is no way Apple would release the same form factor on a model that is over a year old. That's just bad business.

Yes, they would absolutely never, ever release an iPhone that looks the same as the previous year's model. Absolutely not.
 
If you seriously think that we'll see an iPhone 4S, then you're sadly mistaken. There is no way Apple would release the same form factor on a model that is over a year old. That's just bad business.

False. The have done it, and would happily do it again if they felt they had added enough to keep it relevant in the market. Apple doesn't care what people want, they care about what people would buy. If there was enough changed, they could sell a 4S to a lot of people.
 
Can anyone confirm if the strings have been there since iTunes Beta 6. If yes, then how come we see the leak today just 2 days before the keynote?
 
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So in essence what have we learned here?

1. There actually is .00001% of the fan base that actually doesn't want a redesign and is fine with the 3.5" screen. It's not a myth. (or is it? That might actually be Tim Cook's Mac rumors alias)

2. Some guys actually have hands the size of a 12 year old girls.
 
If there is only one new iPhone, it doesn't matter whether they call it the 4s or 5...the internals will be the best that they are willing to put in there this year. So basically you're deciding not to buy it because it will lack whatever slight modifications in form factor that people expected.

i'm totally with you, some people are just odd with their logic!

I concur. It is there. iPhone N94AP, But that is only listed for the CDMA phone.

N94 is the code for the newer iPhone, the CDMA is N92....

Do u really think apple would be that STUPID?? After working so hard to keep it a secret they are just going to TOTALLY just blow any mystery (whatever mystery that is) surrounding Tuesday's event. Give apple a little more credit. Sorry to say it, but u are WAY, WAY off on this one...I'll save the "I told u so" until Tuesday.

Denial much?

If you seriously think that we'll see an iPhone 4S, then you're sadly mistaken. There is no way Apple would release the same form factor on a model that is over a year old. That's just bad business.

been done before with the 3G to 3GS... you've got a very short memory obviously :p

There actually is .00001% of the fan base that actually doesn't want a redesign and is fine with the 3.5" screen.

you're partly wrong there, it's not that they don't wan't a redesign, just that a new look is not as important as improved internals. I'm happy with the current design, but much improved internals, it they release a new design and it's better, then great, but it's not an important issue. Only shallow people are bothered by looks.....
 
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