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As long as it's rectangular shaped with flat top/bottom and a touch area, many of us will still need this. Amazing how one adapts to picking up a remote like a crab claw, so you don't hit any buttons/touch pad area and feel around for the rubber band to orient it correctly.

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Makes me wonder if folks could choose between the Apple TV 3 remote and the Apple TV 4 and 4K remotes at time of purchase. Bet a lot of folks would never complain.
Not really a solution, as there will be missing features and buttons.

No Siri.
No home button (needed to close apps).
No volume.
Must have line of sight.
 
Ok at this point it seems clear Apple will present the new Apple TV at the WWDC (as a secondary product) this year.
I'm actually kinda in a hard spot now, as I wanted to invest in an Apple TV 4K to watch my Amazon Prime/Apple TV+ and Netflix in 4K HDR (I have a 4K HDR display but not a smart TV)
 
As long as it's rectangular shaped with flat top/bottom and a touch area, many of us will still need this. Amazing how one adapts to picking up a remote like a crab claw, so you don't hit any buttons/touch pad area and feel around for the rubber band to orient it correctly.

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Had that problem with the version of the remote pictured. The current one with ring around the menu button, which is now also the only button that turns everything on, fixed that for me.
 
Ok at this point it seems clear Apple will present the new Apple TV at the WWDC (as a secondary product) this year.
I'm actually kinda in a hard spot now, as I wanted to invest in an Apple TV 4K to watch my Amazon Prime/Apple TV+ and Netflix in 4K HDR (I have a 4K HDR display but not a smart TV)
Roku and fire stick give you all that and far more beside for 20% of the costs, all with voice control and a real remote now?
 
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My programable remote that I use with my Bose surround system controls the ATV just fine. I am sure other third-party remotes can be used too, just not with Siri.
 
Please keep the touch surface. It would be a huge step backwards to have to spam click the down arrow to get down the page, instead of swiping with slow or fast gestures to immediately get to the right place.

Never really understood the hate. Unless maybe it’s the “picking it up upside down”... but how long does that really take to correct? .04 seconds to quickly spin around? Plus isn’t that what the raised “menu” button was for? If anything, make it look like the iPhone’s Apple TV remote interface like the article described. That way you wouldn’t pick it up the wrong way. Just please keep the touch pad, and volume buttons.
I agree - really don’t know what all the fuss is about. It’s a far better remote than most. Admittedly, buying one of these made it x100 better RE picking it up the wrong way.

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My only critique is it should have a little speaker and function to ping it if it’s lost from another Apple device, like the iPhone/watch.
 
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Please keep the touch surface. It would be a huge step backwards to have to spam click the down arrow to get down the page, instead of swiping with slow or fast gestures to immediately get to the right place.

Never really understood the hate. Unless maybe it’s the “picking it up upside down”... but how long does that really take to correct? .04 seconds to quickly spin around? Plus isn’t that what the raised “menu” button was for? If anything, make it look like the iPhone’s Apple TV remote interface like the article described. That way you wouldn’t pick it up the wrong way. Just please keep the touch pad, and volume buttons.

The problem is the touch surface is not good enough and it's not very well designed. I don't understand why they don't use LG like magic wand. It's way easier for a distance screen and it's not like they haven't nailed the 6 axis sensor.

Personally I just use my phone or Apple Watch remote. Which work perfectly.
 
Apple's laptop trackpads are some of the best-rated in the entire industry. And have been for a looong time.

But the trackpad on the Siri remote is hot garbage...

🔥🗑
 
I couldn’t go back to a traditional remote now, the simple Apple TV remote controlling everything along with the swipe gestures and edge click to skip is so good. Never had a problem with clicking the edge not skipping, I guess not everyone’s hands are suited to it or something.
 
FWIW - I believe the remote app can control volume when its being controlled by the TV via HDMI-CEC. At least my remote app always seems to control it.
Interesting. Mine, at least in Control center, has no volume control, although HDMI-CEC works on the Siri Remote.
 
Better than using that stupid trackpad 🤦‍♂️
Again: What's the difference between clicking a button or a trackpad? Both go "click" and both skips 15 sec. forward/backward.

EDIT: I just saw, you kind of answered the question already. But maybe the remote is just to small for you? I don't think this has anything to do with the touchpad.
 
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That’s... better than spam clicking yeah but I feel like it would be like the backspace on iOS. You hold it down to erase multiple letters... and the longer you hold it it starts jumping backwards faster and faster. Letters turn to words turn to sentences turn to the entire page deleted. Sarcastic of course but you get my point hopefully. It’s hard to control or guess when it’s gonna start jumping faster.

I get your point. iOS' backspace operation is a bit of a mess. Apple should allow you to adjust settings such as the speed and timing of when the speed increase occurs.

I get that, but if you notice, the bottom glass has much more friction than the smoother trackpad on top, so I always know which way it’s facing. But again, the tactile feedback is from the raised menu button, no?

Yes, but if you wind up moving your finger to test you can wind up swiping accidentally if you pick it up in the right orientation as you test the friction or look for the menu button.

It is a human centered design, IMHO, that valued form over usability and as a result it is neat but is frustrating for many users when it comes to actually acting as a remote. A good remote design is much like an aircraft cockpit; you can tell what it controls, and operate the desired control, without looking at it. If you have to look at it or fiddle with it, it is distracting.

The flip side is designers who want to put every function on the remote. I have an AV remote at home with some 30+ buttons, all with tiny abbreviations as labels; it is so hard to use I tossed it in a box somewhere and never use it. My Siri remote controls the volume just fine and turns it on and off via HDMI-CEC, which is 99.9% of my normal uses. Other functions, such as changing source, A-B speaker setup, etc. are easily done by getting out of the chair and walking to the device.

You use the hardware volume buttons on the iPhone to control the TV volume when in the app.

Thanks. Makes sense once you realize it but gets back to my human centered design concern, it is not good design when you mimic a controller in an app but leave out a key function because another item on the device can perform that function.
 
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Roku and fire stick give you all that and far more beside for 20% of the costs, all with voice control and a real remote now?
I'm not sure Apple TV+ runs in 4K HDR on the Amazon Stick...not even sure there's the app.
Anyway I prefer to stay in the Apple Ecosystem and I try to stay as far from Alexa as I can.
 
The funniest part is the glass gimmicked remote was the reason the AppleTV pushed to $150 or so.

If they made a simple, cheap remote it could sell for $75 to $99.
 
Please no Roku-like remote. The track pad is perfect. Not sure why people have such a difficult time with it. Sausage fingers? Lack of dexterity? It’s not 2001. I hate the click click click remotes of yor.
 
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