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Tweaked Apple TV Contains Die-Shrunk A5 Chip, Not A5X
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Tankmaze
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Ah I see, didnt think about the lower consumption and less thermal. But i'm certain this revised atv will it make it harder to jailbreak 🙁
lolkthxbai
macrumors 65816
Because they believed Apple would announce third-party developer access to the platform for apps like games simultaneous to the release of ATV3,2
To all the people downplaying this: this is great news. 28nm process could enable:
iPad mini 2 with Retina
iPad 5 with thinner body (as is expected)
iPhone 5S with better battery life and faster CPU/GPU
Sure, other things also have to be worked out (like backlight issues on the iPad mini with Retina), but this is great news. As for the "inconsequential" update to the ATV3, the last trial run of a new process gave us the ATV3 (with 1080p). This trial run didn't result in the ATV4 ... because ATV4 is likely to bring big changes and isn't ready yet - but Apple didn't want to wait on getting the 28nm process vetted.
Can't wait to see which foundry they're using (I'm hoping it's actually Intel's 22nm...).
iPad mini 2 with Retina
iPad 5 with thinner body (as is expected)
iPhone 5S with better battery life and faster CPU/GPU
Sure, other things also have to be worked out (like backlight issues on the iPad mini with Retina), but this is great news. As for the "inconsequential" update to the ATV3, the last trial run of a new process gave us the ATV3 (with 1080p). This trial run didn't result in the ATV4 ... because ATV4 is likely to bring big changes and isn't ready yet - but Apple didn't want to wait on getting the 28nm process vetted.
Can't wait to see which foundry they're using (I'm hoping it's actually Intel's 22nm...).
That depends ...
There's long been rumors that eventually, the AppleTV will add the ability to download and install one's own apps for it from the App Store, just like GoogleTV does right now with their store.
If you go to a more open device with 3rd. party software offerings running on it that you have no idea in advance about? Then a more powerful processor would probably be a benefit.
There's long been rumors that eventually, the AppleTV will add the ability to download and install one's own apps for it from the App Store, just like GoogleTV does right now with their store.
If you go to a more open device with 3rd. party software offerings running on it that you have no idea in advance about? Then a more powerful processor would probably be a benefit.
You are correct. Have you seen the size of the lock on the new chip? Nobody makes a lock pick set that small! Don't even get me started on finding a source of tiny bits to program with. 😡
rdlink
macrumors 68040
Ditto. Anyone who doesn't appreciate how big the introduction of a 28nm die is just doesn't understand the physics that will bring revolution to mobile computing. Less heat. Less power drain. More space for batteries. All good things for mobile devices.
APlotdevice
macrumors 68040
As does Roku, whose media streamers offer a far better value than the AppleTV right now. IMO the only major selling point of the AppleTV currently is AirPlay.
Dumb question. Does Apple TV bought from the States will work in Australia? I know HULU, NETFlix will not work. I am just wondering about the movies that I bought from iTunes.
Agreed...I love apple products (have iphone, ipad, etc) but for streaming the ROKU offers way more content (i think something like 700 content channels) and you can get the cheap one starting at HALF the price of the apple tv, the advantages appletv has are airplay, playing itunes content and a more polished interface, but at least for me, those don't outweight having way less content and costing much more (for the lower model anyways)
TallManNY
macrumors 601
Yeah, this is the size they want to use in their next generation phones. But it serves no particular purpose in the Apple TV that does not suffer from heat or battery life issues. Truly this is just a test run. A proof of concept done on a massive and commercial scale. And as such that is kind of awesome.
This is the size that will allow Apple to bring out a thinner 3.5 inch phone. And get longer battery life. 😀
Please do share.... I'd love to hear this 🙄
Isn't Jailbroken.
Doesn't have an App store....
TallManNY
macrumors 601
They've already got Netflix and Hulu on their. I haven't really messed around with Amazon Prime (though of course I have it for the free delivery). Is the selection much better than Netflix? Or does it end up being repetitive?
That would interfere with the content deals they're trying to nail down.
Not trying to defend it...just explaining it...
That article re Apple using Snapdragon was complete tosh, reducing size and power o existing chips is where apple is really headed on a cheaper device, it make absolutely no sense to bring in an external product when they already have what they need, reducing the A5 down to 28nm and sticking in a cheaper lower power product , iv always seen the ATV as apples test bed in recent years for some HW, its cheap enough and low enough volume that if there was an issue its easy to remedy with previous versions.
just remember a lot of apple work goes in where you don't see it and this is proof of that, wait 5 years this stuff will pay off massively.
just remember a lot of apple work goes in where you don't see it and this is proof of that, wait 5 years this stuff will pay off massively.
Amadeus71
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If you continue using the same iTunes account and don't move it to a new country store (which means you'll continue to use your US credit card) then yes, it'll work.
Technically, the AppleTVs sold are the same everywhere. Only difference comes up where you're using it (such as Hulu restrictions) and what country your iTunes store is.
herr_neumann
macrumors 6502
I have Amazon Prime, Hulu Plus and Netflix on my PS3. They each seem to have a bit of exclusive content, though some content bounces from one to another. If you already use Amazon Prime for shipping, there is no reason not to take advantage of the video feature, but the video feature is not reason enough for Amazon Prime.
VulchR
macrumors 68040
I have been considering buying an Apple TV for some time, and indeed was ready to get the credit card out last weekend. Then I reconsidered. I now have a fancy new Panasonic Viera TV that would be suitable for displaying information from the Web. Yet neither Panasonic's nor Apple's stock apps include even a rudimentary browser, locking me into a handful apps that are limited in functionality.
So... I don't give a crap about what CPU the Apple TV is running. I'll only be interested when it is opened up to more apps. Moreover, the stock and free apps available with the Panasonic TV are already greater in number than Apple's offerings (e.g., TuneIn radio app is available for the Viera). It seems to me with a mountain of cash Apple could make the Apple TV less of a hobby and more of a money maker (e.g., if in addition to apps they added a blu-ray/DVD drive as well so I could replace other components and also use my iPhone as a remote).
So... I don't give a crap about what CPU the Apple TV is running. I'll only be interested when it is opened up to more apps. Moreover, the stock and free apps available with the Panasonic TV are already greater in number than Apple's offerings (e.g., TuneIn radio app is available for the Viera). It seems to me with a mountain of cash Apple could make the Apple TV less of a hobby and more of a money maker (e.g., if in addition to apps they added a blu-ray/DVD drive as well so I could replace other components and also use my iPhone as a remote).
Which foundry made these chips has NOT been confirmed as far as I can tell.
TSMC already claimed nearly 100% of all 28nm production in 2012.
It was never in doubt which foundry is dominant. Still doesn't tell us anything about who made the chip though.
Two options: jailbreak or Mac Mini. Or both 😛 Apple TV really is pretty awesome, for what it is: an entertainment box.
chrmjenkins
macrumors 603
It is most likely that rather than having the normal dual core A5 with one core disabled, it's a single core A5. We'll need to see something from ChipWorks or similar to determine process.
Yay!
So I don't need to wait another month to replace my ATV2 which has suffered a major problem since the last software update. (Yes, I took it in to the Apple store for repair. No it doesn't show up in the iTunes menu when they plug it in. Yes it plays Netflix & does AirPlay. No, it can't play my iTunes content-it reboots every time I try.)
So I don't need to wait another month to replace my ATV2 which has suffered a major problem since the last software update. (Yes, I took it in to the Apple store for repair. No it doesn't show up in the iTunes menu when they plug it in. Yes it plays Netflix & does AirPlay. No, it can't play my iTunes content-it reboots every time I try.)
Gigabit Ethernet
Would be good if the next round of AirPlay devices have gigabit ethernet / faster wireless. I was a little shocked to find out that the new AEX only has 10/100 ethernet, same with the
TV. I understand that they might not want to use a non-mobile wireless chip, but ethernet should be full speed.
Would be good if the next round of AirPlay devices have gigabit ethernet / faster wireless. I was a little shocked to find out that the new AEX only has 10/100 ethernet, same with the
TV. I understand that they might not want to use a non-mobile wireless chip, but ethernet should be full speed.While I'm fully aware of significance of this accomplishment. It's something only tech enthusiasts understand and appreciate. These are the very people that are accused of prefering Android over the much simpler & basic iOS.
Therefore the point is, it's lost on the mainstream customer who doesn't care about anything other than the Apple logo, and the fact that they want to be seen with an iPhone or iPad.
Meanwhile the die size is not going to help Apples dismal stock performance. This is, after all, a publicly traded business.
Here's something about public perspective on Apple:
http://www.france24.com/en/20130309-googles-star-rises-apple-fades