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You obviously know nothing of Tweetie and its development history.

Thanks for the response; and to a point you are correct. I know it's the 3rd party client that was bought by Twitter themselves to be turned into the official client, beyond that I couldn't care less as I use Twitter maybe once a year (for MR's WWDC update tweets). Beyond that I can't stand Twitter so know no more of Tweetie than this.

Anyway, I digress. You haven't answered my question; why does another Twitter client, official or not, supposedly highlight the benefits of the new App Store? As has been pointed out, a Twitter client does very little / nothing that can't be achieved in a standard browser anyway.
 
What did you expect? Photoshop for $4.99?

No, but based on the iOS App Store I would have thought the talking points would have been independent or lesser known software which is a benefit to the potential App Store customer than another Twitter client which does very little than a browser window pointed at Twitter's website does.

The benefit of the iOS App Store to developers is the ability to have your app, once approved, available to millions of potential customers in massively disproportionate fashion to that which would otherwise be by promoting it through traditional channels (SEO, software bundles etc). The benefit to users is finding this software with minimal effort. Apple's website has previously had some excellent "Staff Picks" recommendations of smaller software houses' products with links to the developer's website, but they were often hard to find.

I'm not seeing how Twitter's official client makes any real difference to a user, I would have expected more singing and dancing about software which was previously a relatively unknown Staff Pick but likely to do really well with the new distribution channel of the App Store.
 
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Will there be a free section of the Mac App Store like on the iOS devices and in iTunes? I was hoping there'd be a version of FAAD for the Mac App Store.

Also, is there any word of developers of iOS device games porting their games over to the Mac App Store with support for using the iPhone/ipod touch as a controller via bluetooth or such? That would be AWESOME.

From a previous MR post, it seems that Chopper 2 will be doing this. It works great already using an iPhone + iPad combo, and I can't wait to turn it up a notch and play it using my iPhone + iMac. Should be awesome!
 
How I see the future of computing:

You no longer do 90% of your things in the browser, you instead have Apps (clients) for things such as Twitter and Facebook, with built-in notification systems so you don't have to "check your Facebook" all the time. It's also native, not "limited in-the-browser", so you can benefit from transitions and system optimizations. Also, the interface can look more Mac-like on Macs, and more Windows-like on PCs, since they would have different clients.

Instead of Chrome OS, which forces everything such as text editing into the browser, I think everything that's in the browser should go native. That way, you would get much better performance and you would not have to wait for the interface to load each time, since it's on your hard drive, making loading times much shorter.

I'm hoping that the App Store will allow for this to happen.
 
How I see the future of computing:

You no longer do 90% of your things in the browser, you instead have Apps (clients) for things such as Twitter and Facebook, with built-in notification systems so you don't have to "check your Facebook" all the time. It's also native, not "limited in-the-browser", so you can benefit from transitions and system optimizations. Also, the interface can look more Mac-like on Macs, and more Windows-like on PCs, since they would have different clients.

Instead of Chrome OS, which forces everything such as text editing into the browser, I think everything that's in the browser should go native. That way, you would get much better performance and you would not have to wait for the interface to load each time, since it's on your hard drive, making loading times much shorter.

I'm hoping that the App Store will allow for this to happen.

That is actually a fantastic idea. I never thought about that for facebook, but it would be really cool if facebook developed a native mac app. who knows? 
 
That is actually a fantastic idea. I never thought about that for facebook, but it would be really cool if facebook developed a native mac app. who knows? 

The whole point of web standardisation is to negate the fragmentation caused by having applications designed to perform a common function being developed at different speeds on different platforms.

You only have to look at the discrepancies between the native iOS and Android Facebook apps' histories to see this is a bad idea.
 
I can't wait! I needed a good Twitter client but especially i want to try Mac App Store!
 
How I see the future of computing:

You no longer do 90% of your things in the browser, you instead have Apps (clients) for things such as Twitter and Facebook, with built-in notification systems so you don't have to "check your Facebook" all the time. It's also native, not "limited in-the-browser", so you can benefit from transitions and system optimizations. Also, the interface can look more Mac-like on Macs, and more Windows-like on PCs, since they would have different clients.

Instead of Chrome OS, which forces everything such as text editing into the browser, I think everything that's in the browser should go native. That way, you would get much better performance and you would not have to wait for the interface to load each time, since it's on your hard drive, making loading times much shorter.

I'm hoping that the App Store will allow for this to happen.


"Your" vision of the future is actually what Apple wants, because those native apps will lock their users into the Apple ecosystem. Microsoft always wanted exactly the same thing, only for the Windows platform.

Naturally, Google prefers platform-independent, browser-based solutions because they don't care what hard- and software you use, as long as you are using Google's web services. Back in the day, IBM followed a similar approach with their mainframe computers and the connected terminals: All the logic is run on the mainframe - now "the cloud" - and the user only needs a dumb, cheap, thin client.

From a technical perspective, those two approaches have been fighting against each other since the invention of the PC, and I don't think that any side will ever win because both have heavy weighting pros and cons.
 
Well he both misunderstands the app store and make stuff up, so your confusion is understandable.

Partly true, but the guy was right about one thing: It -- IS -- a requirement for AppStore applications to support a full screen mode. Without a full screen mode, Apple won't accept the app.

For some apps, like Scrivener, Word, Pages or Aperture, a full screen mode makes perfect sense. However, for a stupid little thing like a Twitter app, it's ridiculous to demand it. But when you look at this "Mission Control" thing, it becomes rather obvious why applications will need a full screen mode -- Mission Control wouldn't work well without full screen apps.
 
"Your" vision of the future is actually what Apple wants, because those native apps will lock their users into the Apple ecosystem. Microsoft always wanted exactly the same thing, only for the Windows platform.

Naturally, Google prefers platform-independent, browser-based solutions because they don't care what hard- and software you use, as long as you are using Google's web services. Back in the day, IBM followed a similar approach with their mainframe computers and the connected terminals: All the logic is run on the mainframe - now "the cloud" - and the user only needs a dumb, cheap, thin client.

From a technical perspective, those two approaches have been fighting against each other since the invention of the PC, and I don't think that any side will ever win because both have heavy weighting pros and cons.

This.
 
I can't wait. I'm very enthusiastic about the Mac App Store. I could use more "cheap" utility apps for Mac and the App Store will provide that and more. It will likely also increase the interest for developers to develop for Mac, which is also good Apple and Mac OS.

I also like the idea of twitter, facebook and RSS apps. (I'm already certainly going to buy Reeder for Mac!)
 
Anyway, I digress. You haven't answered my question; why does another Twitter client, official or not, supposedly highlight the benefits of the new App Store? As has been pointed out, a Twitter client does very little / nothing that can't be achieved in a standard browser anyway.

It's not supposed to 'highlight the benefits of the new App Store' - the story is about the release of a new version of Tweetie. The information about the App Store is secondary.

Steve
 
I've installed it, it's okay - but it's basically the same thing as Tweetie... kinda. I don't like the "New/Write" icon is hidden. One more step to make a new tweet... good thing it was free.
 
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Twitter for Mac blows. I can't believe this is what @lorenb put out after all that time.
 
How I see the future of computing:

You no longer do 90% of your things in the browser, you instead have Apps (clients) for things such as Twitter and Facebook, with built-in notification systems so you don't have to "check your Facebook" all the time. It's also native, not "limited in-the-browser", so you can benefit from transitions and system optimizations. Also, the interface can look more Mac-like on Macs, and more Windows-like on PCs, since they would have different clients.

Instead of Chrome OS, which forces everything such as text editing into the browser, I think everything that's in the browser should go native. That way, you would get much better performance and you would not have to wait for the interface to load each time, since it's on your hard drive, making loading times much shorter.

I'm hoping that the App Store will allow for this to happen.

Bad idea... this is a step backwards from a web-oriented UI.

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Don't care about twitter (Guess I'm too old for that - I also won't do Facebook).

But the good news is the Mac AppStore comes today and I can't wait to see what is on there ....

... lots of twitter and facebook apps!!
 
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I'm still ticked at Loren and MacHeist. Many of us purchased last year's bundle because we were promised a free early beta upgrade to Tweetie for Mac 2. I understand there was the acquisition, but not one word of following through with the agreement. Now with the update going live tomorrow, it would seem we were swindled.

Just got an email from MacHeist with instructions to open up "secret experimental preferences and options"... I was in the same boat as you until I got this email this morning... At this point I'm glad they at least addressed the issue, and I'm stoked to go home and check it out.
 
What does a twitter app do that the twitter web site doesn't do?

Provides a much richer user experience, has built-in image and video posting, growl and menubar integration for notifications, compose multiple tweets at once, multiple user accounts without logging in and out. It is clear to me that you either don't use Twitter or have never used a Twitter client, because everyone knows that clients are the way to go and the website is basically useless.

No, but based on the iOS App Store I would have thought the talking points would have been independent or lesser known software which is a benefit to the potential App Store customer than another Twitter client which does very little than a browser window pointed at Twitter's website does.

See my previous paragraph. To say that it does very little more than the website is profoundly ignorant.

The benefit of the iOS App Store to developers is the ability to have your app, once approved, available to millions of potential customers in massively disproportionate fashion to that which would otherwise be by promoting it through traditional channels (SEO, software bundles etc). The benefit to users is finding this software with minimal effort. Apple's website has previously had some excellent "Staff Picks" recommendations of smaller software houses' products with links to the developer's website, but they were often hard to find.

I'm not seeing how Twitter's official client makes any real difference to a user, I would have expected more singing and dancing about software which was previously a relatively unknown Staff Pick but likely to do really well with the new distribution channel of the App Store.

So screw providing great apps that millions of people will find useful, you want some schmuck like this guy charging $4.99 for something you can find in System Preferences to get rich and famous quick on the App Store? Is that it?

To hell with well established, highly anticipated updates to Twitter clients that people have been screaming to have for over a year, you want someone to get 15 minutes of fame by posting the first fart app for Mac? Is that it?
 
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