Correct me if I'm wrong, but I was under the impression that the ad-serving business these days isn't just "show this ad", it's "show this ad and let us know if the user clicks it, pauses on it, how many times they scroll across it, what other topics they're viewing so we can tailor the next ad..." and the other stalkeriffic stuff that makes the Google/Facebook/Twitter model so unsavory. All this requires active participation and two-way reporting from the client. There are certainly ways Twitter could loop third-party clients in, such as requiring a contract and fees for API access, but I don't think it's as simple as just shoving a few random sponsored tweets into each stream.If you want to pull the plug on 3rd party clients, fine, your business model, your API, your rules.
But shutting the API for most of them down, with no warning or explanation whatsoever, then a few days later releasing a blatantly false statement saying that "Twitter is enforcing its long-standing API rules. That may result in some apps not working.", then a few days after that telling the truth and announcing that you're killing them permanently and on purpose? That's just flagrantly insulting toward a group of companies and people who have been promoting your service and encouraging use of it from basically day one.
Although Musk seems to be doing everything within his power to bankrupt the company he just bought (he has actually managed to pass Sam Bankman-Fried for the greatest loss of on-the-books wealth in modern history), it's the childish, insulting way he does it that bothers me more than the general incompetence.
3rd party Twitter clients showed what the Twitter API gave them. Twitter of old chose--for whatever reason--not to include ads in what the API spit out.
Twitter was under no obligation to offer an API like this, it was under no obligation to support 3rd party clients, but the fact that Twitter wasn't monetizing traffic from 3rd party clients was entirely on them, not the 3rd parties, and could have been fixed in a number of ways.
Indeed, people who used some of the non-free clients were demonstrably ripe for extracting more revenue from. They could have, for example, said "You need the $8/month plan to use a 3rd party client" and left the API otherwise the same with no ads. They could have revised the API to serve higher-value ads. They could have charged developers per API client so they were getting a cut of whatever developers were earning off the clients.
Yes because apple is “different.”Imagine if this said "Apple Officially Bans All Third-Party Apps Stores"
Reactions would be completely different 😂
Yeah, I saw that and shook my head. I understand their dilemma, and none of this is their fault. At the same time, that statement just wasn't a "good look" for them. I think the right thing to do is to offer to refund purchases made in the last 7-10 days–but no more than that.The product you bought no longer works but please don’t ask for a refund because it would hurt us financially.
I don’t think Elon cares.This was the straw that broke the camels back. I’m out
So charge for the API like any normal business would. The people using third-party clients are unlikely to move over to the official Twitter app, so now they've lost users and potential recurring revenue.twitter business model is selling ads
other clients did not show them
they also didnt pay them anything
makes zero sense to support them. like, do you know any alternative instagram client for example?
Twitter owns TweetDeck. Has for probably a decade now. So it's not a third-party app.I only use twitter to follow macrumors announcements.
Tweetdeck and Aviary are still working for me, I assume they eventually will stop?
Please elaborate on that last part.I have quit Twitter too. Elon takes poor decisions and he knows it. He destroyed 40% revenue within a few months and I am sure he will bring Twitter to the graveyard.
I am not willing to be part of a Twitter where we are dependent on the daily moodswings of one huge manchild. Sadly enough, I cancelled Fenix and Tweetbot.
In my opinion the only right solution for the EU is for the EU Commission to ban Twitter for abusing its monopoly. Just a TOTAL block.
Exactly. Would I pay for Twitter Blue to use their horrid official apps? Absolutely not. Would I pay the same fee to navigate Twitter in a beautiful third-party app that I can make work the way I want? Absolutely. If Twitter had told Tapbots that their users would have to pay the $8 to continue using it to compensate for ad revenue (or whatever), I would have paid without hesitation.So charge for the API like any normal business would. The people using third-party clients are unlikely to move over to the official Twitter app, so now they've lost users and potential recurring revenue.
The monopoly on what? Information dissemination?[…].
In my opinion the only right solution for the EU is for the EU Commission to ban Twitter for abusing its monopoly. Just a TOTAL block.
actually is a smart move. 90% of these are bot facing API's that are inflating and devaluing the twitter experience IMHO. He has to rewrite the book to make it a platform that he wants and can become financially stable.Great angle!
now less people will use your platform.
This guy is a genius
Yes. They have lost ad revenue since Musk took over (30% to 40%). Major ad agencies (Omnicom) have paused ad-buys on Twitter for lack of Brand-Safety. There is a billionaire taunting him on twitter with an offer to buy Twitter for it's actual worth of $14 billion. NOTE: This was the known value before Musk decided to purchase and because the board ignored his first offer, Musk raised it to $40 billion with no "due diligence"Are they tho?
He's not moving fast getting the FSD working as he's promised for years. He is fast at making bad tweets that say people trying to save others are pedophiles, and is currently on trial for fraud because of tweets about taking Tesla private and having funding. So yeah, fast at some things. IMOI agree with the criticism about the lack of notice and a sunset date but Elon Musk likes to move fast so it's not surprising. People who paid for a third party Twitter app are the exact target market for Twitter Blue. I suspect this will work out for Twitter despite the fallout.
I don't doubt they lost 40% revenue. I don't doubt he laid off 50-80% off employees. I do doubt they will disappear in any way shape or form.Yes. They have lost ad revenue since Musk took over (30% to 40%). Major ad agencies (Omnicom) have paused ad-buys on Twitter for lack of Brand-Safety. There is a billionaire taunting him on twitter with an offer to buy Twitter for it's actual worth of $14 billion. NOTE: This was the known value before Musk decided to purchase and because the board ignored his first offer, Musk raised it to $40 billion with no "due diligence"
That’s very likely the case. Without knowing how the corporate governance of Twitter now works, I’d say that he’s now completely running the show, driving the business as he sees fit.He must be making all the decisions by himself without consulting with anyone.
Nice Twitter.
Twitter today confirmed that it is no longer permitting third-party developers to create Twitter clients, with the information quietly shared in an updated developer agreement that was spotted by Engadget. A new clause under Restrictions says that developers are not able to "create a substitute or similar service or product to the Twitter Applications."
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This wording effectively bans all third-party apps such as Tweetbot, Twitterrific, Aviary, Echofon, Birdie, and others, and makes it clear that third-party Twitter apps are not going to come back at this time.
Last Thursday, Twitter stopped providing API access to major Twitter clients like Tweetbot, causing them to stop functioning, but at the time, provided no explanation as to why the APIs were suddenly unavailable. Twitter remained quiet until Tuesday, when it cryptically said that it was "enforcing its long-standing API rules," a change that could cause some apps not to work.
Third-party developers at no point received any communication from Twitter nor any warning about the shutdown, and Twitter never offered insight into what API rules might have been violated. As it turns out, Twitter is implementing a policy change that simply blocks third-party clients.
All popular Twitter clients such as Tweetbot and Twitterrific are no longer working, and the Twitter users that depended on these apps will now need to use the official Twitter app on iOS or Android or the Twitter experiences on the web. By cutting off third-party Twitter apps, Twitter will be able to serve ads to all users on its platforms.
Third-party Twitter apps have been around for more than a decade, and they were a popular choice for those who do not care for the default Twitter interface. There have long been complaints about Twitter's own app and the web experience, with third-party clients able to offer a much more palatable interface for many.
Developers had no notice that their revenue streams were going to be cut off, and they were not able to inform customers who paid for their apps about the shutdown. As Twitter has no communications team, little else is known about this situation.
The developers behind Twitterrific confirmed that the Twitterrific apps for iOS and Mac have been pulled from Apple's App Stores as of today. Until this afternoon, Twitterrific for Mac was still functional, as Twitter had not uniformly cut off third-party clients.Twitterrific subscriptions through iOS have been cancelled, and Twitterrific is asking subscribers not to request a refund from Apple as the loss of the Twitterrific revenue will have a notable impact on the business, and thousands of refunds could be devastating.
Article Link: Twitter Officially Bans All Third-Party Apps
When lenders look at numbers, having a high user count matters. Dumping a ton of people isn’t a good look.twitter business model is selling ads
other clients did not show them
they also didnt pay them anything
makes zero sense to support them. like, do you know any alternative instagram client for example?