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Point proven on everything I said lol, some people will defend Elon at all costs, no different here.

On this last part though; I don’t claim credits or deductions, student loans have been paid off, home paid off 2 years go(I’m in my 30s and live in a very high cost of living city in an expensive state), I don’t donate nor feel bad about that, mine and my spouses income was too high to receive Covid stimulus, so none of that really worked in your favor either.

I’ll never understand the people who will jump every hoop to defend or treat Elon like some modern hero. All this for a person with a well documented history or being born rich and a terrible human to have to work for, but sure let’s all protect him.
I’ve talked so far about facts - taxation, business history, things disclosed per securities law in the united states.

I’ve not mentioned my personal opinion on the character of Elon Musk. But you keep bringing it up — perhaps you are far too invested emotionally to hold objective discussions?

And for the record, I find his behavior during the Thai flood distasteful; his tunnel project a pipe dream; and self driving car a perpetual moonshot. But I can evaluate his car business and Twitter venture based on reason.

Maybe try not to let your anger color your views.
 
Musk: A big problem with Twitter is fake accounts.
Also Musk (assuming this report is true): I'm going to make it harder to distinguish between real people and fake accounts.
 
Yes, but the verified blue check account was and remains optional. My reply was to a comment that "free speech now starts at 20 dollars per month" which is simply untrue. Having and using a Twitter account is still free.

Yup. The better way to think about this scheme is that it puts a price on the value of being verified.

How much do you value the checkmark?

Whether you are a business, a musician, a politician, a youtuber, a writer, an executive — whether hugely prominent or not — how much do you they want to signal that you are the actual entity? Are you trying to establish your brand?

Most who already are, probably think nothing of the price.

BTW macrumors.com has an account. Its verified. I dont think they mind paying.
 
The problem I see is that many people will not want to admit how much they value having the blue checkmark. If they pay $20 per month, they admit that the checkmark is important for them. Sometimes it is embarrassing if other people know that you paid a lot of money for something. Like a $999 monitor stand for example.
 
Meh.

I know its big in the US, but really.. I am yet to be asked for my Twitter handle by ANYONE. Facebook on a weekly

Twitter is a bit different from other social networks. I don't view or use Twitter as a "space" to spend time. It is more of a way to connect, just like one can do with email or phone.

I use it to follow Status updates from tech companies or to view trending topics of interest. SpaceX is a great example of how a company uses Twitter to post live, real-time updates on launches.
 
Me too. I have zero tweets.


Twitter is about me quickly getting a summary of everything that is happening in the world in terms of what interested me. Take away verified accounts or make them less prevalent or trustworthy and I might not find it as useful
How do you trust current verified accounts when you have no idea how they were verfied in the first place? At least under Musk's alleged program, we'll all know how people's accounts were verified.
 
Makes sense that Elon wants to charge people for things at twitter. All those people with large followers. are essentially business accounts. Though it may make better sense to charge $10 a month. at $20 they will lose users. but then again lots of those people still will want their followers. I bet they lose more people in USA than anywhere else in the world so, bet that Musk has run those #'s and willing to do that.
 
How do you trust current verified accounts when you have no idea how they were verfied in the first place? At least under Musk's alleged program, we'll all know how people's accounts were verified.
We know how they were verified.
 
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Wow! That sounds quite greedy! And within hours of joining the company too! I’m sure it makes economic sense but at least lead with some positive changes?
He didn't "join" the company. He. BOUGHT the company.

Huge difference.
 
What a stupid businessman. Doesn't he realize that a lot of the 230 million or so Twitter users would be more apt to pay $4.99 a month than $19.99 a month? This truly shows how out of touch he is. I mean, does it come with Disney+ or do I get extra online storage? 🤣
He is so stupid he has made billions.

Gotcha.
 
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The fake accounts he was talking about are bots. It is unlikely a bot will be paying $20 a month for a checkmark.
Okay? That doesn't effect the problem. Fred Fredstone doesn't want to pay $20/month. Now there is no way to distinguish between the real Fred and fake Freds (whether they be bots or impersonators).
 
Just enjoy the nice, smooth, slow death of Meta/FB and Twitter.

And then all of Zuck and Elon fantasies and lies will unravel.
 
Yes, but the verified blue check account was and remains optional. My reply was to a comment that "free speech now starts at 20 dollars per month" which is simply untrue. Having and using a Twitter account is still free.





I don't exactly know what Musk's thinking is here but do know he has commented in the past that too many "verified" accounts are not active enough on the platform. He may feel that if they have to pay for the service, they will use it more which will also drive more usage and interest from others. More active users and usage would be a positive for Twitter.
What about all the unverified accounts that aren’t active? You can’t force people to be active on a platform. Unless adding a checkmark to someone’s Twitter handle is really labor intensive and expensive I don’t see what the point of charging them for it is other than Musk doesn’t know how else to raise more revenue. But the number of verified accounts is so small and if you assume not everyone who is verified will chose to pay the revenue he’ll raise from this is pretty minuscule.
 
That's more about who's eligible for a verified account, not how they were ultimately selected... or not.
You said we "have no idea how they were verfied in the first place". I provided a link to how they were verified. It includes the criteria to be eligible for verification. Not sure what you are implying is missing.
 
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Even though I still do not understand what Twitter really is for, or how to use it, or what goodness it really has, I might go for validating my Twitter account name, but I just don't use Twitter, so I'm not even sure I want to.

I just looked at it - Ive had an account for a long time - different username than here on MacRumours.

I'm still feeling pretty dumb on this Twitter thing.

IF I am not a celebrity, do I need Twitter? I really don't care about following anyone - Not Taylor Swift, Not even Elon.
 
Yup. The better way to think about this scheme is that it puts a price on the value of being verified.

How much do you value the checkmark?

Whether you are a business, a musician, a politician, a youtuber, a writer, an executive — whether hugely prominent or not — how much do you they want to signal that you are the actual entity? Are you trying to establish your brand?

Most who already are, probably think nothing of the price.

BTW macrumors.com has an account. Its verified. I dont think they mind paying.
But what is the point of monetizing the checkmark? It’s certainly not going to raise that much revenue. Facebook and Instagram don‘t require a subscription to verify identity. Why is Twitter different than Instagram?
 
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