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Should add that the chief tw@t is going to open up space for a competitor and I’m there for it.
 
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I worked at a bar/restaurant for 10 years and one thing my boss/the owner said that sticks with me decades later is when he told me he doesn't care if the employees hate him. He's there to make money, not be everyone's friend. He told me if everyone thinks he's an *******, and he's making money, he must be doing something right.

Now, I don't agree with this! Just saying, *******s seem to always be in charge.
By that point it's the employees' and customers' fault. Don't support that crap. GTFO!!!
 
or just the fact that he's the richest person on earth and he bought it simply because he can as a toy
Elon Musk is funny guy, internet troll in some moments, but he is definitely not a fool. If he is spending 44 billion dollars on something, instead of putting this money in SpaceX or Tesla, there is definitely a serious plan behind it. Saying that that he is playing with his money for pure fun, because he is the richest person in the world, is something that I don't even remotely consider to be true.
 
has nothing to do with validity. has to do with monetization.

do you think giving away accreditation for free is more profitable than charging for it? (assuming people have willingness to pay for it)
I think free is better as long as they are truly worth it.
 
True, but you can run a business on an iPhone. It might be different if Twitter had reporters and writers developing stories, like a newspaper or news channel, where your monthly subscription was helping fund the work, but to just get your Twitter handle promoted for $240 a year seems like a foolish expense. Of course I could be wrong and the promotion may indeed generate a sufficient return for some people or businesses. It’s just not likely going to be huge numbers of the general Twitter user base paying the price.
Anyone worth having a blue check can definitely afford it.
 
As far as I remember, Tesla doesn't make any profits selling a product--it makes all of its profits based on selling carbon offsets to other companies. Tesla will also soon be competing with car makers that DO know how to make money (here comes Toyota, Honda, MB, VW). Does Star link make money? Does anything Musk runs make money? I don't use Twitter. I used it for about a week many years ago, and didn't see the point. I have no opinion about it, except that now that Musk owns it, I won't go anywhere near it.
I don't Twitter personally at all. I don't like the format. I only use it for feedback to a business or to check on the status of something that is down.
 
The money isn't the point for Musk. Yes he wants Twitter to make money, but that's not what this sounds like.

The point is eliminating the blue check for many, many users.

As we saw over the weekend, he's fine with spreading misinformation and lies on his own platform. He wants to take away the one thing that separates the unverified user from the verified "blue check" user. That way there's nothing to show that a given tweet comes from an account that has some level of legitimacy. So the less useful accounts and the (hopefully) more useful ones all look alike. Parody, impersonation and fake accounts, which currently don't have blue checks, will look the same as the real person or organization's account.

Here comes the "free-for-all hellscape."
 
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True, but you can run a business on an iPhone. It might be different if Twitter had reporters and writers developing stories, like a newspaper or news channel, where your monthly subscription was helping fund the work, but to just get your Twitter handle promoted for $240 a year seems like a foolish expense. Of course I could be wrong and the promotion may indeed generate a sufficient return for some people or businesses. It’s just not likely going to be huge numbers of the general Twitter user base paying the price.
Yes, I'm sure it's worth it if you generate income from your Verified Twitter Account. But does it do anything for an ordinary Tweeter? It's near the amount for Apple One Family that actually gives a product
 
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Elon Musk is funny guy, internet troll in some moments, but he is definitely not a fool. If he is spending 44 billion dollars on something, instead of putting this money in SpaceX or Tesla, there is definitely a serious plan behind it. Saying that that he is playing with his money for pure fun, because he is the richest person in the world, is something that I don't even remotely consider to be true.

there's no master plan, he bungled his way into getting locked into this deal
 
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What a stupid businessman. Doesn't he realize that a lot of the 230 million or so Twitter users would be more apt to pay $4.99 a month than $19.99 a month? This truly shows how out of touch he is. I mean, does it come with Disney+ or do I get extra online storage? 🤣

I think Elon did pretty good as a businessman.
 
I worked at a bar/restaurant for 10 years and one thing my boss/the owner said that sticks with me decades later is when he told me he doesn't care if the employees hate him. He's there to make money, not be everyone's friend. He told me if everyone thinks he's an *******, and he's making money, he must be doing something right.

Now, I don't agree with this! Just saying, *******s seem to always be in charge.
One thing is hate/like, and another thing is respect/disrespect. I also personally don't like my boss very much as a person, but he is a good leader, our company is growing double digit each year (including my salary and bonuses) since he took office, and respect him for that. Elon Musk is not a tyrannical sociopath, he is just demanding boss.
 
I have to say I don’t get this.

For companies yes. Being on Twitter is a comercial decision and most big companies would pay a thousand times that happily for their blue ticked British airways or EasyJet accounts.


But for people I think it will do more harm than good. Genuine famous people I think will be split.

Some will happily pay it. It’s buttons.
Some will think why should i and in the short to medium term won’t have to. Taylor swifts real account doesn’t need the tick. The 91 million followers makes it clear. People saying that stars really love the status of having a tick but that’s when it was awarded to them for being famous enough, not when they have to sign up and send 20 quid a month.

Some of those big stars might think ‘wait you should be paying me to be on your site not the other way around’. I wonder how musk would treat some of the biggest Twitter accounts threatening to leave.


And some will just leave. In fact a lot will leave and just use Instagram.

And of the huge percentage of blue ticks who aren’t mega rich or monetising Twitter I think a lot of them will just accept the loss of the tick. After all for a lot of them it’s not them that benefit from the tick it’s the people reading their posts. And that will lead to Twitter becoming a less useful source of info for hundreds of millions of people.
 
"or else be fired"

He sounds real fun to work for!

That part seems totally made up. I feel like this is a 'leak' by an employee that is not happy about Musk taking over.

What sounds more realistic is this is one of the ideas that they are throwing around on how to monetize the platform and simultaneously deal with the blue check mark issue, which has been a well known issue.

In any case, the idea that this leaker is claiming that they basically said "build this complicated new feature in exactly 1 week or your fired" sounds completely bogus. And it's the typical 'anonymous source' reporting that has become all too common nowadays.

As far as the feature, I'd like to see two versions of the verified check mark, maybe different colors or differing levels of prominence. One should be simply that you are verified because you uploaded your ID and you basically proved you arent a bot. Everyone should be able to get this one. Then that would allow them to add features where a user can hide all activity from any account that hasnt proven they are a real person. The second level should be the paid version, where you get a special checkmark, along with other features. Gone should be the days of the arbitrary process where some twitter employee, who of course is totally unbiased, got to decide if one person was important enough to be verified and another one isn't.

You could also take it even farther by adding levels/tiers to the paid verification badge style based on how many verified (not bot) followers you have. That way, the celebrities and big time tweeters still get to feel special for having a type of badge that very few other people have. However, in all cases, the decision on who gets what kind of badge should be taken out of human hands. It should be based entirely on proving your human, paid subscription, and VERIFIED follow counts.
 
I have to say I don’t get this.

For companies yes. Being on Twitter is a comercial decision and most big companies would pay a thousand times that happily for their blue ticked British airways or EasyJet accounts.


But for people I think it will do more harm than good. Genuine famous people I think will be split.

Some will happily pay it. It’s buttons.
Some will think why should i and in the short to medium term won’t have to. Taylor swifts real account doesn’t need the tick. The 91 million followers makes it clear. People saying that stars really love the status of having a tick but that’s when it was awarded to them for being famous enough, not when they have to sign up and send 20 quid a month.

Some of those big stars might think ‘wait you should be paying me to be on your site not the other way around’. I wonder how musk would treat some of the biggest Twitter accounts threatening to leave.


And some will just leave. In fact a lot will leave and just use Instagram.

And of the huge percentage of blue ticks who aren’t mega rich or monetising Twitter I think a lot of them will just accept the loss of the tick. After all for a lot of them it’s not them that benefit from the tick it’s the people reading their posts. And that will lead to Twitter becoming a less useful source of info for hundreds of millions of people.


Im a bit embarrassed.

I don't even understand how Twitter really works or why I'd want to use it!

I do have an account - but I do not understand what a tweet really is. I mean I can say something just like on this forum, but in a tweet, and who is going to really want to read it?

Why would someone want to follow me?

Why would I want to follow "Taylor Swift" - lol -


I think I sort of understand Twitter - but I just don't get how you get a critical mass of followers maybe? What Am I missing about Twitter?
 
there's no master plan, he bungled his way into getting locked into this deal
Or Elon decided that the best way to justify post-closing measures is to enter into pre-closing conflict with Twitter board of directors and CEO about the integrity of the social media itself? Who knows? I don't believe that he took the decision to go with this deal without being advised previously by the best M&A lawyers out there and considering all possible scenarios.
 
Interesting move. Not sure how many people will want to pay for it. IMO, this could very well be the downfall of Twitter.
That's fine with me. I can't stand social media except for YT, if that's considered it.
 
How many people who are verified today are earning $20 or less?
I actually know some artists and actors who are somehow "public figures", but do not earn a fortune. In Germany 70% of all actors make €20,000 or less per year or less. So they usually even have a second job.
 
And of the huge percentage of blue ticks who aren’t mega rich or monetising Twitter I think a lot of them will just accept the loss of the tick.
$240/yr is not megarich threshold

After all for a lot of them it’s not them that benefit from the tick it’s the people reading their posts.
complete opposite. Taylors swift account isnt on there so she can read what people post. Its there so she (her social media handler) can announce concert dates and jimmy fallon appearances and l’oreal plugs.
 
So when you file your taxes next year, how about not claiming any credit or deduction, no student loan payment deduction, no mortgage interest deduction, no deduction against charitable givings, giving your covid stimulus checks back, etc.... would that be better off than what you were doing before?
Point proven on everything I said lol, some people will defend Elon at all costs, no different here.

On this last part though; I don’t claim credits or deductions, student loans have been paid off, home paid off 2 years go(I’m in my 30s and live in a very high cost of living city in an expensive state), I don’t donate nor feel bad about that, mine and my spouses income was too high to receive Covid stimulus, so none of that really worked in your favor either.

I’ll never understand the people who will jump every hoop to defend or treat Elon like some modern hero. All this for a person with a well documented history or being born rich and a terrible human to have to work for, but sure let’s all protect him.
 
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