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I don't get the Apple plan. Do they want to spend years in the transition from Intel to Silicon? I believe that Apple was much better prepared on the transition from Power to Intel processors. At this pace, it will be two years into the new processor before they are not selling Intel based machines, which means that have to support the Intel machines for quite some time (or piss of everyone who is replacing their Mac with an Intel model still).
Probably partly because of this

 
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What writing? The bandwidth for the legacy ports is a fraction of even a single such USB-C port, and the M1 already has plenty of bandwidth for 4. It's just missing the extra controllers and drivers in the I/O ring. "M1X" will definitely have them.

Apparently you don't realize that the M1 is built on the baseline level 13" MBP, which had only two ports. When they move to the next group of MBPs those better-spec'd machines, just as their Intel predecessors do, will have four ports.

There isn't any writing on the wall whatsoever. The current M1 MacBook Pro replaces a previous Intel model that also had two ports on the left side.

Neither of the four-port Intel models have been replaced.
1. The 4 port Mac mini (the only one of the new M1 Macs that had 4 ports) was inexplicably replaced with a 2 port.
2. The new ports (on all new M1 machines) have 1 dedicated controller per port, instead of 1 controller per 2 ports as on Intel Macs.
3. Rumors of the next M1 Macs (the ones with 4 TB ports and no other ports) magically regaining things like HDMI, SD, and MagSafe. Why? Because Apple just decided after 5 years we need those? No, because 2 of the ports are going away and need to be replaced with something.

Yes, the writing is very much on the wall. Whatever the limitation is, Apple can't or won't do 4 TB controllers on an M1 machine. Maybe we'll see something different down the line with the Mac Pro or others, but it is very very clear the next MBP's will not have 4 TB ports.
 
1. The 4 port Mac mini (the only one of the new M1 Macs that had 4 ports) was inexplicably replaced with a 2 port.
2. The new ports (on all new M1 machines) have 1 dedicated controller per port, instead of 1 controller per 2 ports as on Intel Macs.
3. Rumors of the next M1 Macs (the ones with 4 TB ports and no other ports) magically regaining things like HDMI, SD, and MagSafe. Why? Because Apple just decided after 5 years we need those? No, because 2 of the ports are going away and need to be replaced with something.

Yes, the writing is very much on the wall. Whatever the limitation is, Apple can't or won't do 4 TB controllers on an M1 machine. Maybe we'll see something different down the line with the Mac Pro or others, but it is very very clear the next MBP's will not have 4 TB ports.

This is false. There is no limitation. That’s silly.
 
1. The 4 port Mac mini (the only one of the new M1 Macs that had 4 ports) was inexplicably replaced with a 2 port.
Right. I suspect M1 can’t drive more than that. This isn’t relevant to future ARM Macs.

That Mac mini also doesn’t come with a 10GigE option.

They also are all limited to 16 GiB RAM.

It doesn’t matter. They’re low-end Macs.

It’d be like extrapolating that future Macs couldn’t possibly come with more than 4+4 CPU cores.

3. Rumors of the next M1 Macs (the ones with 4 TB ports and no other ports) magically regaining things like HDMI, SD, and MagSafe. Why?

Because dropping HDMI was a bad call.
Because Apple just decided after 5 years we need those? No, because 2 of the ports are going away and need to be replaced with something.
So your conspiracy theory here is that Apple can design a CPU architecture, but not one that supports four Thunderbolt ports?

Will they? Maybe not. Do we have much “writing on the wall”? No.
 
with the magsafe chord
the Dell XPS 13' or other is the perfect notebook plug that  should manipulate, like that green to amber light always on!

since we dont trip over the plugs anymore like say 2011, we dont need the horrible constructed magsafe plug.
My MacBook air uses the first one and i am on my 5th plug since 2011 and i have seen photos of the magsafe_duex that are frayed and need repair. do not bring bask this nightmare s!

since i use a camera card everyday but dont mind using a dongle instead of the ejector thing the dell xps features.
the mini cards are horrible to eject at times and i hav lost my 32GB in our old house that is getting demolished soon.

that's it!
part duex
 
My mid 2012 MBP 15 is still hanging in there. Have to use it plugged in but hope it lasts until the new ones comes out later this year.
hopefully you can still keep and still use the MacBook pro for older programs and just for fun in the future!
i need a new battery, adaptor plug and something else so i might invest in a new MacBook this spring instead.
im not impressed with the new features like special ports and mag-safe so i might get the M1 pro, without the task bar
that hard drive space eating news kinda perked my ears back, but my dellxps does that as well, so i empty the useless GBs.
im more concerned and excited over airplay possibilities and iPad drop off and continuations than anything else.
 
And those will be more expensive than the current MacBooks? Asking because I'm planning to buy a new MacBook.
 
Aside from bringing back MagSafe to the MacBook Pro, I want the Apple logo on the back to light up again
Logo on the back lighting up will no longer be possible as not all of the backlight of the screen will be lit at one time, also if they did a separate light source for the logo it could bleed into the back of the display making mini led backlighting a bit pointless, tho possible tho risky as they need to make sure they totally block any light from it to the screen
 
Bringing back the SD card and HDMI are great moves. Going back to MagSafe is not... just stick with the USB-C standard like the rest of the world.
Unless Apple just combines the two - MagSafe that connector that connects to a USB-C plug. These already exist.
 
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Can’t come soon enough. I’m ready to put the current MBP form factor behind me for good; nothing but a plague of broken keys and screen issues.
 
I think whatever Apple comes up with won't be anything like those multi-color 24' iMac screens rumor having edge to edge displays in a recent article. I shudder with that thought.
Respectfully disagree. The last time Prosser showed a render of product he got info on, it was the AirPods Max. And it was, for the most part, bang on. And AirPods Max was released two months after he showed the tenders. So I’m willing to give him benefit of the doubt.
 
My 2016 mbp keyboard now types whatever it feels like. Hurry up with the new machines!
Bummer... did you get it replaced??? I got lucky and sent it in under warranty right before the 4 years was up in Nov (bought on day 1 in 2016)... Was was amazing was in that service they replaced the top screen and case and the bottom case with keyboard... basically got a new machine outside of the motherboard... then with the M1s out turned around and found a on-line buy-your-mac store that gave me 1400Eur for it... which covered a nice M1 Air that smacks the pants off the 2016 MBP.

If you can get it in a reasonable state to sell I'd say anyone with an older butterfly MBP should sell before used Intel machines prices crash (due to the M1 pricing/value curve and a potential flood of folks selling).
 
Right. I suspect M1 can’t drive more than that. This isn’t relevant to future ARM Macs.

That Mac mini also doesn’t come with a 10GigE option.

They also are all limited to 16 GiB RAM.

It doesn’t matter. They’re low-end Macs.

It’d be like extrapolating that future Macs couldn’t possibly come with more than 4+4 CPU cores.



Because dropping HDMI was a bad call.

So your conspiracy theory here is that Apple can design a CPU architecture, but not one that supports four Thunderbolt ports?

Will they? Maybe not. Do we have much “writing on the wall”? No.

You have no idea what you're talking about. The M1 mac mini is "driving" the exact same number of Thunderbolt controllers as it did before. Except now Apple has 1 port per controller except 2. What they did NOT do is move to 4 controllers in the Mac mini so as to have 4 ports.

Is it possible that future Macs can have more? Of course it's possible. But here is a machine that went from 4 to 2. And now we're hearing the next MacBook Pro are gaining legacy ports INCLUDING worthless MagSafe. Why? Because they will have 2 TB ports, like every other M-series Mac thus far.
 
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