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[...]Just something I can use on the couch to surf the internet without having to set up my MacBook Pro.

[...]

What is involved in "setting up" your MacBook Pro? I mean, besides opening it?

"The other is a media pad that would let users listen to music, view photos, and watch high-definition videos, the person says. It would place calls over a Wi-Fi connection."

wow...sounds amazing....anybody hear of the iPod touch?

Sure. Remind me when it started supporting HD videos?

Since neither the Kindle or the Sony ebooks are mac friendly (AFAIK)

My MacBook and Kindle get along just fine.
 
If youve already got an iphone, why would you need fully roaming internet browser?
Couldn't iPhone users just get a twin SIM card for this... "iPad"? Telia (the iPhone carrier in Scandinavia) will give you a secondary SIM card for something like 5 bucks/month if you already have a data plan (for iPhone or other). So you can stick one card in your laptop (or "iPad") and the other in your iPhone (or other 3G phone). I'm assuming American carriers have a similar deal -- two SIM cards, one plan?
I've scanned through this thread and I think a key point is being missed. Apple is all about the customer experience, making things 'easier' for the competition. I really don't think an iPhone "lite" is in the cards based on that tenant.
I think there's a huge demand for a smaller cellphone from Apple -- not one the same size with functionality missing.

I've had this conversation about a hundred times now:

Me: So... you're not getting an iPhone?
Whoever: No way. Too big. If they made an iPhone "Nano" I'd buy it in a split second.
Me: But then the apps won't work...
Whoever: Apps? Who gives a **** about apps. I just want a small phone, preferably one from Apple. If it's between A) getting a small, sleek Sony Ericsson/Nokia/Motorola/Whatever or B) lugging an iPhone brick around, I'm going with A.
 
If this thing needs a contract, I'm not buying. That would be ridiculous. I could understand why, if someone wants a fully roaming internet browser. However, I am fine just connecting on wifi around towns and in homes.

Yea me to. If it requires yet another cell phone contract then I will not buy.
Interesting to think though that it may just use the phone side to buy ebooks and apps like a super kindle. The article mentions using VOIP with WIFI but why would you need to if you have the phone network?
I want a WIFI no contract tablet to use at home and the coffee shop. Nothing else please.
 
The Apple Pad sounds like a competitor to the Nokia N8xx tablets. It would make sense to talk to Verizon and add 3G to the device, but only allow said 3G for data.

Add a big touchscreen and thin profile, and you have a killer device. Maybe they'll replace the Kindle 2 keyboard (that area) with more of the screen—then utilize an on-screen keyboard.
 
It needs to be on ATT and Verizon both. T-Mobile and Sprint have already aligned with Google and Palm for their iPhone killers.
 
Well, this is Apple.

And we all know that Apple doesn't just raise the bar a few notches......it friggin drop kicks it straight in the gentlemens area, leaving us all speechess.

Whatever it is, it's probably going to be an iPhone moment. It'll probably seem a bit silly at first. When the iPhone was first introduced, I went "huh, it's cool, but I don't think it'll catch on". Boy was I wrong, after they explained what it could do, all you wanted was the iPhone.

I'm thinking that's what will happen with this new device. It'll be silly at first, but once they explain "why" you need it on your life and show everyone what it does, I'm sure it'll be a breakthrough device setting a completely new device category (and prompting every other company to rush to create their own ripoff versions......as they did with the iPhone).

We'll just have to wait and see what they have up their sleeve.......because this is Apple, it's what they do best.
 
I have no doubt that some type of Apple pad/tablet is coming. The netbook market is not really working. It's similar to the MP3 player market before the ipod. It's kind of a cool idea, but people are still unsure why they really need one. It needs to be more than just a small laptop or a bigger iphone, but still not a replacement for either. I've been toying with a netbook and/or a ebook reader, but my iPhone already fills my need for an ultraportable device and is sufficient for ebooks - for now. Netbooks are simply not compelling enough yet.

Apple is going to come out with something that will fill the gap between laptops and smart phones, but incorporate something that will actually get it to sell. It's going to be something that will seem so obvious - probably an ebook reader sized device with an iTunes Store book library. It should be interesting.
 
As far as wanting two carriers, it makes sense to have two carriers in that it promotes competition which could drive down costs for consumers as the competing carriers try to attract customers. With competition, the consumer wins. Plus, many people have chosen not to switch to ATT because for some service and coverage with Verizon is better in their area. If iPhone is expanded to multiple carriers, Apple can make more $ picking up those who are die-hard fans of one carrier or another. Just some insights on the carriers.

Your point is valid, and I completely agree, but I didn't mean Apple. I was referring to a PERSON wanting two carriers. Apple might want two carriers, and sure it would suit them. But say iPhone Lite is only on Verizon and it has features the regular iPhone on ATT doesn't. In order to get best of both worlds, you (person) would need both carriers.
 
I have no doubt that some type of Apple pad/tablet is coming. The netbook market is not really working. It's similar to the MP3 player market before the ipod. It's kind of a cool idea, but people are still unsure why they really need one.
The netbook market is "not working"? Netbooks are selling like hotcakes (14.6 million sold in 2008), much unlike mp3 players that predated the iPod. Netbooks went from a 0.6% share of the computer market in 2007, to 11% in 2008, and the projection for 2009 is 17.2%. That is not an iPod type situation.
 
Ive read alot of articles that seem to think the netbook market is beginning to cool. I hope thats the case. Those things really annoy me.
 
Since neither the Kindle or the Sony ebooks are mac friendly (AFAIK) I am waiting anxiously for somethig from Apple to fill the void. I have been so tempted to pick up a Sony PRS-505 but I have been burned by Sony and their contempt for the Mac genre before.

Uhhm no my Kindle 2 is perfectly compatible with my Macbook.
 
Why does everyone want to call this an "iPhone Lite?" A bunch of us keep getting the uber flames in the iPhone forum to suggest than an "iPhone Nano" would be released at some point and/or would be a good product. All the spankers that couldn't see the needs past their own may be in for a little "told ya so."

Because the article states they found the titles from Apple that name it iPhone Lite. That's why.
 
I think the rumored apple product is going to be a lot like the sony vaio UX micro pc - only sleeker, virtual keyboard, without the antenna and with os x...nice
 
there's nothing wrong with the current iPhone form factor and Apple knows it. Why make a smaller device with a smaller screen? Apple has a form that works; why the hell would you make a smaller device when the current one is doing so well? I can only imagine typing and reading on a smaller touch screen. Sounds like ********.
 
No stylus, why use a stylus when you have a UI designed for finger touches? It could be used for text input, but this still isn't very advanced.

Because fingers are fat, and sometimes you want to do something that requires a finer touch. Like draw something with narrow lines instead of big bulging lines.

I'd look for this to be [...] a competitor to netbooks, without the clunky keyboards, and the horrible XP interface, and a competitor to kindle, without the clunky interface.

Everything I mentioned I can pretty much do on a netbook, and without the horrible XP interface. That's part of how I built my list of tasks. They're what I do on my current tablet (Samsung Q1 Ultra running Ubuntu-UMPC), and what I plan to do on the Dell netbook I just bought.

It would be nice to have an Apple product to do those things on, for the extra polish (not just visual polish, but usability polish) that Apple and OS X bring to the table, but ultimately the need to do what I do rules out over whether or not Apple will sell me that product. I wont sink to the depths of an XP machine, but I will certainly chose an Ubuntu machine over an Apple machine, if Apple isn't going to sell a product that does what I _need_.

I'll easily pick a Touchbook (or EeePC T91 or T101; or CTL 2Go tablet) with Ubuntu over an Apple Media Pad, if the Media Pad doesn't have the list of capabilities I said. And, at that point, it'll be my fifth* Linux device in 2.5 years (when I picked a Nokia N800 over an iPod Touch, and never regretted that decision), and will probably be my point of never looking back.

(* the other 4 linux devices being Nokia N800, Nokia N810, Samsung Q1 Ultra, and a Dell Vostro A90; though technically my phone (G1) is also a linux box)
 
Like the first picture of this and we are sold:

Next Apple moves will be Books and Games…
http://spidouz.wordpress.com/2008/09/03/next-apple-moves-will-be-books-and-games

I could get behind that design (the first 2-4 pictures). Especially if it'll do the keyboard in portrait mode (all of your pics have it in landscape mode). Major bonus if it has a USB Host port and Apple display port (native or via dock, but native preferred).

Because it looks like it runs real OS X, it should be able to do all of the things on my list (though, the ssh might not be a full 80x24, but I can sort of live with that, as long as it's not TOO tiny). I would prefer a screen size of 9 or 10 inches though, 7 being the absolute minimum.
 
Couldn't iPhone users just get a twin SIM card for this... "iPad"? Telia (the iPhone carrier in Scandinavia) will give you a secondary SIM card for something like 5 bucks/month if you already have a data plan (for iPhone or other). So you can stick one card in your laptop (or "iPad") and the other in your iPhone (or other 3G phone). I'm assuming American carriers have a similar deal -- two SIM cards, one plan?

In short, not really a common option in the USA.

Generally, the big carriers (AT&T, VZNW) would advise that the solution would be a "Family Plan" where the 2nd SIM card costs $9.99/month and that it wouldn't be anything more than a voice plan at that price point ... if you want data on both, prepared to get soaked for another $50 or so.

IIRC, much of the basic reason probably resides in the suppliers' ... extreme distaste ... for allowing one phone# be installed on more than one device.

Back in the mid-1990's (days of analog), having multiple phones on the same number was sold as a feature, but the carriers phased this out because they were losing money due to illegal cloning that was then used to make "free" phone calls (often international ones).

IMO, this is a topic area that is in dire need of "competitive innovation" within the US Market: it is quite absurd to suggest that a person who has both a data-capable cellphone and data-capable tablet (de jour) would somehow end up using 2x the bandwidth of if he just had one or the other.


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The netbook market is "not working"? Netbooks are selling like hotcakes (14.6 million sold in 2008), much unlike mp3 players that predated the iPod. Netbooks went from a 0.6% share of the computer market in 2007, to 11% in 2008, and the projection for 2009 is 17.2%. That is not an iPod type situation.


Quite honestly, I don't know if the netbook market is (isn't) working.

But the point is that "success" comes down to more than just units sold: the real question is if they're turning as good of a profit overall ... its more of an ROI (Return on Investment) question.

Its even okay to make a smaller profit per unit if we are able to compensate with an increase in sales...ie, instead of selling one at $100/unit profit, we sell a dozen at $10/unit and thus, net a total of $120.

However, while this looks better at first glance, its not necessarily the whole story: when we look at the Return on Investment (ROI), we need ot make sure that we've not gone backwards: we don't ever want to have to turn over more total dollars in sales for the same amount of profit.

So if the $100 profit came from one $1,000 unit and the $120 profit came from 12 units at $300 each, the ROI of the former is $100/$1000 = 10%, and for the latter its $120/(12*$300) = $120/$3600 = 3% ROI. Between these two options, the first one is the clearly better business proposition.

Personally, I don't doubt that the "Hotcakes" are selling like mad, but what I'm uncertain about is if they're really making a comparable profit on each one to make it an overall "better" product to sell.



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As far as the iPhone coming to Verizon or another network, when your contract is up with AT&T, why not simply unlock the iPhone and use Boost Mobile with their $50/month unlimited everything plan? It's prepaid, no contracts, using the same technology as the iPhone and from what I have heard has great coverage and the only real requirements in their terms of service is that you don't use their service in a way that will prevent others from using it as well, no real data caps and they also say that they will notify you in advance if there is an issue.

You have heard wrong, Boost uses Nextel's IDEN technology not GSM.
 
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