This is the stupidest think to ever. The device will be useless, how do you get anything onto it? no web browser, no app store, WTAF! So this must apply to all smart phone of all flavors, otherwise it's a bogus, biased bill.
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U.S. Antitrust Legislation Would Require Users to Be Able to Delete All Pre-Installed Apple Apps [Updated]
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I can’t help but think Microsoft did right with locking down Windows 10 in S Mode then allowing users to switch out of locked down mode easily and for free and hop to Windows 10 Pro. I’d like iOS and macOS in locked mode then an optional Pro mode.
Not gonna bother with iPadOS as it’s only good for watching YouTube 😜
Not gonna bother with iPadOS as it’s only good for watching YouTube 😜
If I didn't want Apple's apps and software, I would not buy an iPhone. So, no apps out of the box makes it useless....how do you get apps with no app store and no browser.
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Our own generation will be marked with the same issue, just a different subject.
Suppose you were an idiot, and suppose you were a member of Congress; but I repeat myself. — Mark Twain
I’ve seen a lot of dumb things this week. This is right up there.
Speaking as an American citizen (who feels pretty confident that my useless senators and representatives would be supportive of this proposal)…I would like the US government to stay the **** out of this one. A fairly significant portion of the things our government dips it’s clueless hands in…crashes and burns.
Speaking as an American citizen (who feels pretty confident that my useless senators and representatives would be supportive of this proposal)…I would like the US government to stay the **** out of this one. A fairly significant portion of the things our government dips it’s clueless hands in…crashes and burns.
Remember butthead astronomer? I think Apple, working with material like "Cicilline" and "Klobuchar", could come up with some great names for its next phone.
Wait a minute wait a minute… I’m all for increasing completion, making it easier to install third party apps, increasing awareness for third party apps, choosing your own default apps, and deleting first party apps. I like all of that. But preventing Apple from pre-installing their own apps on their own product? Come on now.
If you make a product, it’s perfectly reasonable to choose which features you want to include in that product. When I get a new device, I expect it to have native functionality without having to download extras.
I want my phone to be able to make calls and texts and take pictures immediately. There is nothing stopping me from going and downloading third party alternatives and deleting or not using the first party ones. Nothing stopping me at all. So what’s the issue?
If Apple put up a paywall on their end in order to access third party apps- fine, that’s bad. If they constantly nagged you about using their Phone app instead of Messenger with an annoying pop up every day, yes that’s too far. But simply including a bundle of basic apps on their own device? I repeat, come ON.
What’s next? My car can’t come with a stock radio because there are dozens of third party options out there?
If you make a product, it’s perfectly reasonable to choose which features you want to include in that product. When I get a new device, I expect it to have native functionality without having to download extras.
I want my phone to be able to make calls and texts and take pictures immediately. There is nothing stopping me from going and downloading third party alternatives and deleting or not using the first party ones. Nothing stopping me at all. So what’s the issue?
If Apple put up a paywall on their end in order to access third party apps- fine, that’s bad. If they constantly nagged you about using their Phone app instead of Messenger with an annoying pop up every day, yes that’s too far. But simply including a bundle of basic apps on their own device? I repeat, come ON.
What’s next? My car can’t come with a stock radio because there are dozens of third party options out there?
yeah, that will teach Apple for opening up the platform it designed, both hardware and software, to other people's apps just should have done the same thing other phone companies used to do, install their own apps and keep it totally closed.
this legislation makes zero sense. Apple is only a monopoly in the sense it created literally everything to do with its own system. You have plenty of other choices in phones/computers/hand held devices.
This is a bad thing.
The main selling point of the iPhone is everything works right out of the box. I don’t see what’s wrong with that. The crap pc vendors pre install on their computers, crap that’s unusable, half baked and actually impairs computer’s performance, on the other hand, it’s actually harmful to users. Legislate that.
All politicians that have been around for more than a couple of terms are crooks and parasites.
You think it's gonna ship as just an empty device with zero functionality? Please. In practical use, it would probably end up being one more screen to tap through when you first get the phone. Probably a big fat button somewhere that offers to install their bundle of apps for you and then a small option below that says "skip for now" or something.
It will make the iPhone as easy to install as SCO Unix.
So No web browser, no App Store App... how in the world are you going to start loading apps on your device?
But this law isn't for the likes of you or I that know better, it's to protect the millions of people who don't know better. Big companies need Government oversight, do you really think it would work out well for us all if they were left unchecked?
Those are features of ios. it’s why you buy the dammm phone!
Use an analogy of liquor:
iPhone with iOS is not a generic vessel to which you pour in any liquid after you buy it. It’s a bottle of fine alcohol which you can choose to mix or not.
Here is your empty bottle made by Courvoisier. What liquor would you like inside?
Use an analogy of liquor:
iPhone with iOS is not a generic vessel to which you pour in any liquid after you buy it. It’s a bottle of fine alcohol which you can choose to mix or not.
Here is your empty bottle made by Courvoisier. What liquor would you like inside?
That’s what apple gets for supporting our privacy! moving some production out of China was probably the final straw! Welcome to utopia comrades!
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Umm isnt is Apple's phone to do whatever the hell they want with it? I dont believe there is any law that says 'If you make a computer device, you HAVE to open it up to everyone'. If they shut down iOS development to the outside world, would they get sued for not letting everybody write their own crappy apps too?
This is some Android fanboy in the antitrust office trolling Apple.
Would the politicians dare tell Ford that they can’t install their instruments and stereos and motors in their autos, that they have to sell their cars stripped down and allow customers to install the ones they want? Of course not. The only reason these moron politicians are trying to do this to Apple and other tech giants is because those companies don’t pump money into their sleazy campaigns. It is not about unfair competition. If a company produces a good, popular product they will likely survive. If they can’t produce competitive products, they will go under, and they will deserve to go under. Instead of complaining against Apple and other tech giants, those other companies should try to build their own companies to be able to compete. If they don’t have that capability then let them die on the vine. They have no inherent right to piggy back on the hard work and innovation of tech giants in order to survive, none at all.
No Microsoft had a monopoly (no android which is far bigger than apple, and a lot of choices for phones, all you had was Microsoft) and they worked to entrench themselves. That did not have open tools like in Xcode, they worked to keep proprietary advantages, they even had secret code for Excel and word to make them faster than any competitor. so if you have a monopoly and work to keep that monopoly, that is anti-trust. If you have competition (a lot of people say Android is better, so many people, I'm not saying that because I don't think its true, but a lot of people do) and you provide access to development tools like sirikit and HomeKit and mapkit and......, then you have no monopoly. If any developer can place applications on the App Store subject to privacy and quality standards (try to enforce that), and any developer can create third party payment systems (ergo epics vbucks, and Spotify's subscriptions) out side of the App Store, you do not have a monopoly.
Next we'll be requiring Amazon to advertise third party payment systems, and still have them deliver the products STUPID!
Perhaps it’s just me… but with all of the problems and issues in the World this is more important? Really? Like WTF…
Unless the gubment says no.I would hope that i am wrong, but I am not a "trusting" person and we have people making decisions on tech that are probably still using AOL for mail....