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I switched over to OSX back in 2012 and will never own a Windows machine again.

Unfortunately I had to Bootcamp and install Windows 7 because I still need it for AutoCAD and occasionally playing SimCity 4.

Aren't both of those apps available on OS X? Perhaps they don't have feature parity or are a version behind the Windows version?
 
I think a big part of the decline in PC sales is more to do with the fact that there is no reason to upgrade a PC from sandybridge era CPU's if you are just using it for work or general everyday trolling on the web.

The enterprise environment that I work in made this decision a few years back and most of the PC's here are touching on 5 years old and doing everything needed of it absolutely fine with only a small percentage of failures. When i started doing this kind of work we would roll everything over every 3 years needed or not due to warranty and capital write off. Now we just have a small stock of ready to go pc's or thin-clients that can replace a old device quickly. The only thing that is still on the warranty cycle is the backend infrastructure.

Alot of Apple's increase in sales would be connected to the home buyer, who is already stuck in the apple eco system. And as a nerd gamer I am still running on a 2600k overclocked only thing I have upgraded is my graphics card and to get an SSD.
 
I blame this on Windows 8. Everyone at Microsoft who was involved in the design and decision of the terrible 'Metro' interface needs to be fired and publicly so they are never again hired in an IT firm again. Seriously, I love Windows and am absolutely disgusted by it. What the hell were they thinking?

I use a rMBP but still just cannot seem to get used to it. I just cannot make my workflow as fast as it is on Windows. I wonder if there's something wrong with me.
 
Wow. Mac sales surged by 28%?

Are you sure it's not including the sale of ipad? From a few last report I always see that Apple computer sales always combining Mac and iPad?
Now if that's the case, the growth would be normal considering Aplle jist released the new shiny iPad Air last holiday?

This is from Gartner's report:

Note: Data includes desk-based PCs and mobile PCs, including mini-notebooks but not media tablets such as the iPad. Data is based on the shipments selling into channels.

http://www.gartner.com/newsroom/id/2647517
 
Aren't both of those apps available on OS X? Perhaps they don't have feature parity or are a version behind the Windows version?

AutoCAD for Windows is provided for free to us. The Mac version I would have to pay for. SimCity 4 is available on the Mac but it was a very poor port done by Aspyr and is buggy and crashes often. Almost unusable. Really wish it were better.
 
Because people really don't need PC's anymore in their homes. Tablets will do just fine. Email, Facebook, music/radio, casual gaming, calenders, note taking - all just fine on a tablet.

PC's/Macs are only need for power users (video, photographers, hardcore gamers, business users on Excel, etc.)

Even if all I did was listen to music and browse the web I'd choose the MacBook experience over the iPad one any day. iPads are just so limiting, if only for just annoying this like youtube videos reseting/reloading if you open a new tab.

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Apps are typically so much better on the iPad.

In what? Looks? Layout? Sure isn't functionality...
 
I've been looking to upgrade my old 2010 i3 iMac for a while but the current mac laptop line up just doesn't tempt me.
I need 500gb storage at least and a screen size of around 15". £2200 for such a laptop is hard to justify. I had the new 15 rMBP for a few days before I returned it.
Non retina apps looked poor and I found the edges of the machine made it uncomfortable to type on.
After 14 years enjoying macs I'm tempted by a HP envy which has very similar specs except the screen is a 1080p touch screen rather than a retina screen.
Granted it won't be as perfectly built as a mbp but at £750 compared to £2200 it's tempting.
 
Wait what happened to the reports on AI and Marketwatch and CNBC that CHROMEBOOKS had taken 25% of notebook sales?

The NPD report showed Chromebook sales to commercial resellers like CDW. It did not include consumer sales. That is a huge distinction.

Also, Chromebooks are huge this year in education. We purchased a couple of pilot labs of Chromebooks from CDW. The Apple computers we bought had to be purchased directly from Apple, though. We are not allowed to buy them from resellers. So, Apple computer sales to K12 educational institutions would not be included in that commercial reseller report from NPD.... at least not in my state.

The 20%-25% number for Chromebooks is probably not a very accurate picture of real Chromebook sales.
 
For any 1 half decent application you got on OSX/Win8, I got 20 apps twice as good on my iPad.

What a terrible post.

*cough* Any pro audio/video/photo app ever *cough*

Not to mention games. No, Angry Birds or Temple Run does not rival top AAA gaming titles.
 
I've been looking to upgrade my old 2010 i3 iMac for a while but the current mac laptop line up just doesn't tempt me.

I have the trusty (well, apart from the display) old 2010 iMac 27" and feel the same way. My answer was to replace the hdd with an ssd and while it was apart I replaced the i3 CPU with an i7.
Feels like a new machine! I could swear it was winking at me the first time I booted it back up.

...just a thought.
Iamthinking
 
Could they spin the numbers any more in favor of Apple?

28% increase of practically nothing is still practically nothing. Apple's growth chart is hardly a steady climb. Pick a 1 YR period a few months back and it shows practically NO GROWTH. It's taken them EIGHT YEARS to gain 10% market share. WOOHOO!:rolleyes:

86.3% PC marketshare vs Apple 13.7%. Of course,that's bound to increase dramatically once buyers of new Mac's realize their systems are non-upgradeable and their forced to pony up for another new system sooner than expected just to keep up. More RAM? Too bad. Faster SSD? Too bad. Faster WIFI? Too bad. Better graphics? Too bad.

I don't even need to read the front page stories anymore. They're always bashing PC's, always touting The Great Apple, and spinning the facts. It's not news...it's propaganda.

I use Mac's and iPads and iPhones, and PC's... love them both, but why do the stories here always have such bias?
 
This was bound to happen. Apart from some niche areas, the average Tablet does what most people do 80% of the time on a Desktop PC.

As technology improves we are squeezing more out of our silicon to bring us graphics and CPU power on a tablet that was seen on PC's 10-20 years ago.

Personally I don't think Mac sales are driven by the poor presentation/implementation of Windows 8. I think it's more attributable to people using iOS products and enjoying the experience of their iDevice.
 
Because people really don't need PC's anymore in their homes. Tablets will do just fine. Email, Facebook, music/radio, casual gaming, calenders, note taking - all just fine on a tablet.

PC's/Macs are only need for power users (video, photographers, hardcore gamers, business users on Excel, etc.)

Which explains completely nothing. Woo hoo!

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Could they spin the numbers any more in favor of Apple?

28% increase of practically nothing is still practically nothing. Apple's growth chart is hardly a steady climb. Pick a 1 YR period a few months back and it shows practically NO GROWTH. It's taken them EIGHT YEARS to gain 10% market share. WOOHOO!:rolleyes:

86.3% PC marketshare vs Apple 13.7%. Of course,that's bound to increase dramatically once buyers of new Mac's realize their systems are non-upgradeable and their forced to pony up for another new system sooner than expected just to keep up. More RAM? Too bad. Faster SSD? Too bad. Faster WIFI? Too bad. Better graphics? Too bad.

I don't even need to read the front page stories anymore. They're always bashing PC's, always touting The Great Apple, and spinning the facts. It's not news...it's propaganda.

I use Mac's and iPads and iPhones, and PC's... love them both, but why do the stories here always have such bias?

In general macs will still be the better computer 3 years later. These cheap PCs people buy are i3s with zip for GPU and zip for ram. You can't even buy a mac with an i3 in like 3 or 4 years.
 
Great news. There will always be a place for "traditional" computers. I love my iPad and use it 75% of the time, but there are a lot of things I still need my iMac for. And probably always will.

Good to see Apple is still innovating in this space. Now about that missing prosumer sub-$2k headless Mac....

I am the same way. I use my iPad much more, but will always want a desktop as a "home base" for the hundreds of gigs of photos, movies, music, and documents.
 
If I had an ipad and iphone only (no desktop), I would use a service like Flickr to store photos, which provides 1 TB free.

I keep and share our family favorite photos on Flickr with the grandparents and brother in-law. Works great. I have over 1,500 photos on the service and haven't scratched the surface of the available space. Uploading is easy from apps like Flickrstackr. Frankly, maybe one in four photos that I take are worth keeping. Usually, lots of duplicates....basically same photo taken a few seconds apart. Uploading to a service helps me weed out the dogs.

Honestly, the vast majority of folks could get by fine with just a tablet and smartphone for their home and personal use. For work, most people are forced to use the computer provided by their IT department.....so, they don't get much choice on what or when to refresh. I believe this is the reality for a huge number of people, but not necessarily the situation for those that post on MR.

1500 photos? I shot 200 photos just to get our Xmas card right. Where do you put your real photos from your real cameras?
 
Non retina apps looked poor and I found the edges of the machine made it uncomfortable to type on.
After 14 years enjoying macs I'm tempted by a HP envy which has very similar specs except the screen is a 1080p touch screen rather than a retina screen.

Just pointing this out: Non-retina apps only look bad on the RMBP when you compare them to retina apps. They'll look just as bad on the HP. But yeah, the edge of the RMBP is too sharp, and it bugs me a little too.

The 15" RMBP also seemed to get hot much more easily than the 13" and overall just wasn't as nice to use because of that. Probably because of the dedicated GPU and integrated GPU crammed into a thin case.

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Honestly, the vast majority of folks could get by fine with just a tablet and smartphone for their home and personal use.

Sure, if they try hard enough and don't play any computer games. What's wrong with just having a PC?

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AutoCAD for Windows is provided for free to us. The Mac version I would have to pay for. SimCity 4 is available on the Mac but it was a very poor port done by Aspyr and is buggy and crashes often. Almost unusable. Really wish it were better.

Have you looked at the possibility of using Wine? I've found that it works great for certain Windows applications, running them just as well (or slightly better in rare cases) as if they were in Windows, which gives me the convenience of not having to deal with Boot Camp or a VM. But for at least half the programs, it fails.
 
I have to chime in with my experience, especially since over the past year I've posted a few times that Windows 8 doesn't look so bad and that my next computer might be a Windows 8 convertible.

So I finally did it during a Boxing Week sale. I bought a Lenovo Yoga 11S. I sold my iPad, too, thinking that this one device might take care of casual browsing and light duty computing. The touch screen and the ability to flip the laptop around into tablet mode were compelling.

And then the trouble started...

Let me say one thing first - I am not wilfully ignorant. I have used some version of Windows (since Windows 2.0!) almost every day for the past 20+ years. I know my way around both Macs and PCs.

So at first I was excited by my shiny new hardware. Set up the WiFi, easy enough. Then I went through the setup procedure and it asked me for a Microsoft account to tie my login to. Some minor "forgot my password" complications, then when I finally typed it in: "Sorry, the operation could not be completed." Um. OK.

So I decide to try the included apps. Dragon Naturally Speaking took about 5 minutes of training to adapt to my voice. Now I could do voice dictation! Except that it came out horribly, laughably, wrong. OK, whatever...

I try some other included Lenovo apps. One of them just hung and hung. Another crashed on startup. Another app worked OK, but whenever I was holding the unit in portrait mode, it insisted on running in landscape mode. Which is fine, some apps only run in one orientation, but this one changed the whole machine to landscape mode, so I had to jiggle it back every time. Another app insisted on software updating itself every time I tried to use it.

Ah, software updates. So Windows Updater said I had 83 outstanding, important security updates. OK, update all, says I. The PC starts downloading updates. 0%.... 0%..... 0%..... it sat at 0% for hours before I decided it wasn't working.

You know, I think to myself, this must be Windows 8.0. Everyone says 8.1 is much better. Maybe I ought to update. Turns out, I can't, Windows 8.1 doesn't show up in the App Store and it apparently won't until those software updates complete. I try again. 0%... 0%....

Meanwhile, I fold it up into tablet mode, sit on the couch, and start surfing. Which is kind of fun, except that 768x1366 (portrait) is an awful resolution to be surfing the web and everything is pixellated and ugly. And to top it off, every time I open a new tab, there's a "popunder" tab created next to it full of ads for online games. A virus, you say? Spyware? Rogue JavaScript from shady websites I visit? No! The popunder tab features Lenovo stuff! They set up my browser to give me extra ads!

Then I look at the battery meter -- 4 hours left? Didn't I just charge this thing? Oh right, the reviews say 5.5 hours is about the most I can eke out of it.

This is roughly when I started thinking to myself, you know, the touchscreen is kind of nice but what am I giving up for it in trade? Poor, buggy software, a crappy display resolution, mediocre battery life...

I did the math. A 13" MacBook Pro is just about the same dimensions, thickness, weight (well, it's a bit heavier), has a much nicer display, much better CPU, runs OS X, and can get up to 15 hours of battery life. No touch screen... so be it.

The Windows 8 machine went back to the store 24 hours after I bought it. I got the MacBook Pro instead the next day.

(And 5 minutes of software updating later, I was fully up and running.)
 
Even if all I did was listen to music and browse the web I'd choose the MacBook experience over the iPad one any day. iPads are just so limiting, if only for just annoying this like youtube videos reseting/reloading if you open a new tab.


Agreed completely.
I don't own an iPad because there are 4 devices in my life:
1) iPhone (does most things... e-mail, music, facebook, general web browsing...etc)
2) Mac Mini (is plugged into my TV... does movies, enough games for my 'hardcoreness', stores my iTunes music for syncing and is great for web browsing...etc)
3) MacBook Pro (is mainly for my uni assignments... I also take it to lectures, the odd work meeting and researching)
4) cr@99y Dells that I use at work 8 hours a day (used for coding, e-mail, word...etc they're not bad but they're no fun and lack the 'zen' that my Macs have)

The MBP is technically my most powerful machine (i7 with dedicated graphics...etc). I don't think an iPad would replace it because it's a full quad-core desktop computer being taken everywhere.

I'm a law student when I'm not at work so read a LOT of big legislation/cases (usually in big poorly scanned documents that require a lot of CPU grunt/RAM). Additionally I use all of the fancy app switching features in OS X to manager my work... again, an iPad doesn't let me multi-task. For an average essay I have ~40 multi-format tabbed documents open, M$ word, multiple legal search engines open (there's no single 'Google' of law). Endnote will be open for referencing (and I have a library including THOUSANDS of entries... no really, each assignment I'll reference ~50 cases and I have to reference all the s*ckers properly, or get slammed by the markers). On top I'll have Excel open with lecture notes/advice and a web browser open with my course outline...etc so that I know I'm doing the right stuff. The work I do is actually quite CPU/RAM/Graphics intensive when I get going on a 5000+ word assignment.

In short many people think that only graphics designers/creative people benefit from Macs. Lawyers do too!!! And again, not only graphics designers/gamers need grunt... that i7 (and SSD/RAM/GPU) work together to make a pretty mean law student machine. An iPad definitely wouldn't cut it and I love working outside/in the library, so can't use my Mac Mini.

Still not quite sure where tablets fit. Classmates use them but I always find them grossly inadequate for my needs.
 
Now about that missing prosumer sub-$2k headless Mac....

We can keep dreaming, huh? :)

I can't understand what Apple is waiting for, has been waiting for all these years. I know so many people who have toyed with the idea of getting a Mac, were really serious about making the jump off PCs, but ended up buying a Windows box because their choices were an underpowered Mac Mini, a sticker-shock-inducing Mac Pro or an iMac--a machine that appeals not one iota to most Windows users who want to be able to choose different displays or upgrade various parts of the machine.

The intentional omission of a mid-range, headless Mac is perhaps the most puzzling decision Apple has ever made. Just take the parts inside an iMac, put it in a Mac Mini sized box (maybe bigger) and sell it. I'd buy one in a heartbeat.
 
Could they spin the numbers any more in favor of Apple?

28% increase of practically nothing is still practically nothing. Apple's growth chart is hardly a steady climb. Pick a 1 YR period a few months back and it shows practically NO GROWTH. It's taken them EIGHT YEARS to gain 10% market share. WOOHOO!:rolleyes:

86.3% PC marketshare vs Apple 13.7%.

Of a market which has generally grown over the past 2 decades. Apple's not a cheap brand for everybody, it's a premium brand. What's Ferrari's market share? Less than 1%, but they still make coin and keep their prestige. Apple's niche is that they are THE stylish, more refined alternative to Windows (which is for the masses.)

I use Mac's and iPads and iPhones, and PC's... love them both, but why do the stories here always have such bias?

Apple rumors [dot] com... ring a bell? I keep answering people's questions about 'why are there Apple fanboys here?' or 'why is there bias leaning towards Apple in _____?' Because it's a flipping site frequented by the Apple community. If you don't like the Apple bias then go to Microsoftrumours [dot] com or Fandroidrumours [dot] com.
 
1500 photos? I shot 200 photos just to get our Xmas card right. Where do you put your real photos from your real cameras?

Well now, that's just my point. I assume you didn't put 200 photos on your Xmas card. Usually, only a small percentage of the photos people take with digital cameras or smartphones are worth keeping because they snap away figuring that there is no cost for film development. In the end, I only post my favorites to Flickr for the family to enjoy. I am nowhere near the 1 TB of free space on this service.

Photostream downloads everything else automatically to my Mac Mini hard drive, but really most are not pictures worth keeping. The biggest problem is that people are often not very cooperative subjects for pictures.....eyes closed, looking away, standing in the wrong place, duplicates......so, when you weed out the crap.......not so many pics.

Like many people, I take most of my pics with my iphone, since it is always with me. The picture quality is fine for my use.....the main challenge is getting my subjects to cooperate.
 
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