Many Lenovo models run Ubuntu very well, so you can get all the benefits of a user-friendly POSIX system on the cheap.
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U.S. PC Shipments Continue to Slide in 2Q13 as Apple Lags Overall Market
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Ok maybe not "again" since I've never read any of your posts. However perception is reality and first impressions are everything
Well thanks very much for going through all the trouble writing all of that...
It would do you some good to learn more about the people you're interacting with before deciding who they are based on just one post. So much for "first impressions", you were wrong. Ciao.
"Figures don't lie, but liars figure."
Some groups now include tablet sales in their "PC" sales figures - I imagine the results would be very different when you look at the YoY's with these included.
Further, a still limping world economy does effect the populace at large's ability to buy in at Apple's price points.
Also, as others have noted, Apple's build quality means people hang onto their machines longer - which shows up more in a mature market like computing's "trucks." And my 2004 iBook is still a very serviceable 2nd (and soon 3rd) machine - I'll keep using it for my small biz accounting as long as it does the job, as BYOB no longer offers a $99 entry level program.
Along with that, used Macs are much in demand and hold their value much better and longer than used Windows PC's. So many Mac purchases are second hand and don't accrue to Apple's immediate bottom line.
But as these factors add to Apple's perceived value and status, I think they help the corp in the long run.
Well thanks very much for going through all the trouble writing all of that...
Trouble? It literally took me about 5 min while drinking my morning coffee
It would do you some good to learn more about the people you're interacting with before deciding who they are based on just one post. So much for "first impressions", you were wrong. Ciao.
Getting to know people on forums is unnecessary, because nothing I say is personal. This is where debates take place, you can take it personal if you'd like
Getting to know people on forums is unnecessary, because nothing I say is personal. This is where debates take place, you can take it personal if you'd like
RIIIIGGGHHT! Just like when you said I'm comparing apples to oranges AGAIN when I only wrote it once.
I never take things personally on a forum because I never give virtual humans that much power. Hilarious of you breaking down everything I wrote piece by piece while justifying your unjustifiable actions in the end. I will say that this is my final response to you because you're a waste of my time. Now, off the ignore section of MR to add another name to the list.
I'd say Apple is very much about specs, but you need to be a bit more open-minded what "specs" mean. For example: rMBP, and especially MBA are very, very light. To me, that's part of the specs. Both look absolutely beautiful, and I very much prefer a beautiful computer on my livingroom table than some old ugly junk peace of plastic. To me, that's part of the specs. The mousepad. Part of the specs to me. Magsafe connector. Part of the specs. MBA battery life (and rMBP isn't bad either). Part of the specs. A store with employees that are paid to help customers with problems, and not to get rid of them as quickly as possible. Part of specs.
If you add these things up, then the Mac specs are actually quite excellent compared to any competition.
Well said, and I wholeheartedly agree. And genuinely, if I could only run Windows day-to-day and had to pick a laptop to do it on, I'd run it on a Mac.
Really? Runs the same browsers and PCs. Runs the same professional programs (no one uses Final Cut X semi-pro anymore). For most people, what is the difference, really?
Really? Runs the same browsers and PCs. Runs the same professional programs (no one uses Final Cut X semi-pro anymore). For most people, what is the difference, really?
No.
OS X doesn't run Internet Explorer nor Visual Studio. You even listed one piece of software that can only run on OS X. Your statement is oxymoronic.
Really? Runs the same browsers and PCs. Runs the same professional programs (no one uses Final Cut X semi-pro anymore). For most people, what is the difference, really?
My experience with my first computer in 1999 was a Hewlett Packard desktop running Windows 98. (I didn't think computers were really ready for prime time before then). I had a very negative experience with that. The computer crashed, and blue screened several times a day. It would freeze several times a day to the point the only way to unfreeze it was a reboot.. Which took forever on that computer. I had to load antivirus ware that behaved as a virus. McAfee, Norton, etc. The graphics were horrible as well. Within less than a year, I nearly gave up on computers.
But Steve Jobs had returned to Apple, and the iMac had been released. "It just worked" according to the advertising. I talked to Apple computers owners and they all gave it glowing reviews. They weren't spending time maintaining the computer, they were using it as designed.
So I switched to the iMac, and it was a revelation! Everything DID work, and there weren't any of the problems associated with the H-P and Win98.
I never looked back.. I've owned several Macs over the last decade plus, and then I expanded to the iPod, iTunes, Airport, MacBook, iPad, Apple TV and iPhones. I had a Mobile Me account and a Dot Mac account.
I'm very happy with Apple and their walled garden of products that sync so seamlessly with each other.
It would never occur to me to leave the Apple ecosystem.
My experience with my first computer in 1999 was a Hewlett Packard desktop running Windows 98. (I didn't think computers were really ready for prime time before then). I had a very negative experience with that. The computer crashed, and blue screened several times a day. It would freeze several times a day to the point the only way to unfreeze it was a reboot.. Which took forever on that computer. I had to load antivirus ware that behaved as a virus. McAfee, Norton, etc. The graphics were horrible as well. Within less than a year, I nearly gave up on computers.
But Steve Jobs had returned to Apple, and the iMac had been released. "It just worked" according to the advertising. I talked to Apple computers owners and they all gave it glowing reviews. They weren't spending time maintaining the computer, they were using it as designed.
So I switched to the iMac, and it was a revelation! Everything DID work, and there weren't any of the problems associated with the H-P and Win98.
I never looked back.. I've owned several Macs over the last decade plus, and then I expanded to the iPod, iTunes, Airport, MacBook, iPad, Apple TV and iPhones. I had a Mobile Me account and a Dot Mac account.
I'm very happy with Apple and their walled garden of products that sync so seamlessly with each other.
It would never occur to me to leave the Apple ecosystem.
Do you realize your anecdote is from 14 years ago?
I'm still using a 2008 black MacBook and a 2010 white MacBook. I have no intentions on replacing them until they quit working. The only new Apple purchases in the last two years have been my 4S back in January and a 32GB Mini last month.
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A PC is a personal computer, one of which a Mac is.
I carry both an ipad 3 and a mba11", I can't say that my business/personal usage is leaning on the ipad at all.
Most definitely though, I can't work on the ipad over 30 minutes-1hour, unless of course it is strictly typing.
Do you realize your anecdote is from 14 years ago?
More precisely, my story describes the last 14 years.
Why would I switch to anything else when I have $10,000+ of Apple gear and countless hours optimizing the system for me?
The point is I HAD to switch 14 years ago, and I have no reason to switch now. In other words, I'm happy and content with my Apple products.
Why is this confusing for you?
Desktops won't disappear completely. But they will become extremely niche. To a lesser degree so will notebook computers.
Of course as emerging technologies become practical in the coming decades... folding displays, wearable computers, etc etc... tablets and smartphones as we know them could eventually face a similar decline.
the irony for me is that the reason apple is screwing their prosumers is because pc industry is going down. apple is in it to make money, no doubt about it. if less people are buying their computers, they need to figure out a way to maximize their profit.
Well, sure - if you just web browsing and watching YouTube, there's no point in buying a computer. If you want, however, to do other stuff you will need some form of a computer. Given the price ratio between Apple' and the competitions' desktops, it's no wonder that people would buy a PC (add gamers to this category). As for laptops - given the amount of progress in tablets, and more important, tablet apps, those who need the odd note taking capability or crude text editing have no real reason to fork out $$$ for an ultra book, MBA or a netbook for that matter.
So it shouldn't be a surprise - if I had a nickel for every time someone had asked me which computer to get for just those tasks I could tell you about my very enjoyable cup o' coffee with Tim Cook... To these people there was no reason in the first place to get a computer, so the tablet fits perfectly to their needs.
So it shouldn't be a surprise - if I had a nickel for every time someone had asked me which computer to get for just those tasks I could tell you about my very enjoyable cup o' coffee with Tim Cook... To these people there was no reason in the first place to get a computer, so the tablet fits perfectly to their needs.
Windows is faster at most things than OSX, even booting (off to windows desktop in 7 seconds), USB3 speeds on windows destroys OSX, all games run double the speed even on the same machine when tested, so you are wrong.
yep you are right, but nobody here said anything about a desktop
i got this laptop last year in OCT, PCIe ssd based laptops were not available from anybody, however, the 840 pro was out, and is still one of the fastest ssds you can buy in the 2.5" form factor
if they are garbage why do they have the highest reliability rate? why are they the only manufacture to have gained sales? why are they among the top in satisfaction, the facts prove you to be wrong, but i guess this site doesnt run on facts so yeah you are right, they are complete garbage
http://ctwatchdog.com/finance/2012-...t-reliable-acer-least-reliable-apple-declined
does apple have 4 hour onsite support to repair dead computers? lenovo, dell and HP do, im not sure how well an apple device would fair in a corporate environment with regards to support.
if you try windows 8 with an SSD, you will notice it does everything faster than any other OS on the same machine, windows 7 was pretty fast but windows 8 destroys it.
double the weight, well the MBPr weights 5.6lbs and my laptop weights 5.9lbs (fully loaded with SSDs), most people cant even differentiate 0.3lbs,
height is 1" on the mbpr, mine is 1.4" both fit in my backpack (tons of room to spare), laptop bag (again not tight at all), and on my desk, im not exactly sure what saving 0.4" will do for me, maybe it can help someone but nothing comes to mind.
seems like everybody is a Steve Jobs nowadays
That's just the pattern that technology has always followed: convenience and portability inevitably win out over any other technical advantage. It just has to be "good enough" in the latter respect.
Camera technology is a great example of this. 35mm film could never match the quality of "medium" and "large" format films, but nonetheless it dominated because of how much smaller and lighter the cameras that used it were. Similarly digital sensors, at least until recently, couldn't capture anywhere close to the same amount of detail as film. And bigger sensors, like those in dSLRs, are still better than smaller ones... especially the tiny sensors in camera phones.
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