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U.S. Senate Approves Anti-Discrimination Bill Endorsed by Tim Cook
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Then read the bible, you can get them free from just about anywhere.
I recommend starting with Revelation which many do not suggest, but I think it is a good place to start.
When your religion barring blondes from employment is established, let me know and I'll get back to you.
(Can you provide a more... realistic example?)
I see what you're saying and I agree to some extent. My main issue with the law is its potential abuse and overreach. At the moment, hundreds of religious organizations are suing the federal government over a similar issue (forcing religious groups to provide health services against their beliefs).
If this law provided for churches and religious employers (like church affiliates) I think we'd have a different ballgame.
Actually, you did. Your absolute morality finds abhorrent all systems of absolute morality. It is self-contradictory and absurd. You don't find absolute systems of morality abhorrent. You find the God of the Bible abhorrent. Let's be honest here.
I love Revelation, but the point I was making was that his summary of the Bible is not accurate.
Do you have manuscript evidence for these so-called "edits" to the Bible? Or do you just take this on faith?
I know for a fact that if the D Senate simply did its job any of the last 4 years, and passed an annual federal budget bill and sent it for reconciliation, and passed the combined version, which it has not done, many of these other bills and nominations would sail through.
The fact the D Senate opts to hold up the entire federal budget process for several years in a row and rely entirely on continuing resolutions (CR), is not only unlawful, but a pure political play to keep the outsized "stimulus" spending going indefinitely.
It only takes 51 votes to pass a budget bill in the Senate unlike all others.
The bill Cook refers to and many others are being held up by a recalcitrant D Senate.
Besides, bills are supposed to start in the House. This is a PR trick exploiting an important constituency of the Democrats. I wonder how they feel about that!
Rocketman
The fact the D Senate opts to hold up the entire federal budget process for several years in a row and rely entirely on continuing resolutions (CR), is not only unlawful, but a pure political play to keep the outsized "stimulus" spending going indefinitely.
It only takes 51 votes to pass a budget bill in the Senate unlike all others.
The bill Cook refers to and many others are being held up by a recalcitrant D Senate.
Besides, bills are supposed to start in the House. This is a PR trick exploiting an important constituency of the Democrats. I wonder how they feel about that!
Rocketman
No, your point you make is the myth. We are finding more and more documents all the time that show the bible story remains unchanged. Archeology is increasingly backing up the validity of the bible.
So many people fighting...
More people have died in the name of the "lord" than most think.
Never understood why people take their POV so seriously and just cant admire others for their differences. Would we REALLY want everyone to be the SAME?
I know I'd kill myself if everyone were identical to me. How damn boring would that be.... ugh.
More people have died in the name of the "lord" than most think.
Never understood why people take their POV so seriously and just cant admire others for their differences. Would we REALLY want everyone to be the SAME?
I know I'd kill myself if everyone were identical to me. How damn boring would that be.... ugh.
And yet it sounds like you do.....
What makes you think you can't talk girls with them? What makes you think you can't interact with them at work? They are people too.
I admire our differences. Your avatar has grey but also a splash of color! Mine is foreboding and ominous.
the bible to me is a completely fictional novel for ones entertainment... and go...
My understanding is that it does provide exemptions for religious organizations, but some conservatives feel it does not provide enough.
You know...
I believe that the big failure is to create a law for anything.
The society should focus into self awareness, inner peace, understanding. It sounds corny but it is actually the practical approach.
You will never be able to create a law for everything because there are more variables that will pop up.
People need to develop common sense and the take not of the solution. Now, that solution will change later on because no every case is the same.
People need to behave, if I am transexual ok... but that does not mean I have the right to go everywhere asking for my rights. I have to be me: talented, a good friend, hard worker, good listener. That is what great people do. That means to create community.
That should be the focus of our education, no laws.
I believe that the big failure is to create a law for anything.
The society should focus into self awareness, inner peace, understanding. It sounds corny but it is actually the practical approach.
You will never be able to create a law for everything because there are more variables that will pop up.
People need to develop common sense and the take not of the solution. Now, that solution will change later on because no every case is the same.
People need to behave, if I am transexual ok... but that does not mean I have the right to go everywhere asking for my rights. I have to be me: talented, a good friend, hard worker, good listener. That is what great people do. That means to create community.
That should be the focus of our education, no laws.
I admire our differences. Your avatar has grey but also a splash of color! Mine is foreboding and ominous.
I am a Leo and a once a dated a girl who was a leo, identical to me...
She thought she was always right. I thought the only time I was wrong is when I let someone else be right, which never happened. Needless to say... Yea, it didn't last.
Sadly, the house is full of not so progressive folks right now. Maybe in 2014
Yep, now the ball is court of the House Republicans. The fact is that America has moved on, and ENDA is not even controversial. In fact, even Republican voters have moved on, as poll after poll has shown on this issue. Sheesh, ***even the POPE*** is moving on this issue! However, the House of Representatives is a right wing freak show full of racists and bigots, so I don't have much hope that they will pass anything substantial here.
Exactly... so, case in point, the Obama administration has given a "religious exemption" for the HHS mandate, i.e. contraceptives and abortifacient drugs don't have to provided by Churches.
Too bad, though, the exemption doesn't help the Little Sisters of the Poor who are on the cusp of closing up entirely, because they aren't going to be complicit in what amounts to an accounting shell-game. That, and they don't want to pay thousands of dollars per worker in punishment fees from the government.
But they can choose and have full control of what activities they do or do not engage in, regardless of "natural-born" inclinations.
This is quite different from say, race-based discrimination.
So then the question becomes: "Is it ever okay to discriminate?"
While I disagree with the concept of homosexual behavior as being an acceptable practice, I also believe that an individual can choose to live the way he sees fit. This however, also means that the individual accepts the consequences of their decisions.
As such, we are divided and will continue to be divided as a nation. Because some in our society see the behavior as deviance and deserving of rejection, while others see it as harmless, consensual, and thus non-impactful.
The two sides will never agree, because there is no middle ground in this issue. One side has to cede the rules of the society we live in to the other. Two cultures effectively "warring" for the same country.
But I concede that this is true democracy: "the people rule". If the majority finds homosexual behavior is acceptable, then that's that, and it seems like the media and apparently a lot of the nation has already made it's mind about its acceptability. It's pumped into our brain 24/7 by all media. Morality is subjective, after all.
As a company, Apple is taking sides in this issue. I feel that as an entity, they should remain neutral and not force the issue either way. They can implement the policies they believe in internally, without alienating those that disagree with them.
But to speak out like they are doing, they are not just saying that discrimination is bad. They're saying "our company believes that homosexual behavior is acceptable". The "Anti-Discrimination" title makes it sound more noble than it is. Every Apple customer and shareholder, even if they disagree, is put in the same position.
I find this to be unnecessary.
Ummm *it's not an absolute morality.
Morality is essentially rules that you live your life by. Absolute morality means these stay constant, be it from 4000 years ago or yesterday. An absolute morality means that if the Bible says 'slavery is acceptable', it's still acceptable. In 1000 years, it will still be acceptable. That's absolute. It's unchanging. That's what 'absolute' means.
I want to live in a world where we can evolve beyond that. There will always be some consistencies with morality. 'Thou shalt not kill', for instance, has pretty much been a constant and basis for every single society.
And yes, I do find absolute morality to be abhorrent. Do you know why? Because in the past there's been cruelty to animals, cruelty to women, slavery and so much more. Most of which is written in stone (so to speak) and considered to be normal. Because that was acceptable at the time.
It's a good thing the Greeks didn't mandate their own morality, that should always be adhered to. You see, Plato and Aristotle certainly liked their little boys. I'm pleased we've evolved past that point, where we can argue that: 'yes, let's think about this ... maybe we should make child-****ing illegal.'
That's not an absolute morality, that's society updating moralities to reflect this day and age.
I hope I clarified my point.
I admire our differences. Your avatar has grey but also a splash of color! Mine is foreboding and ominous.
Uh... you neglected to say mine is a circle and yours is a square... which is the most obvious. duh.
Does it really make a difference whether homosexuality is a choice or not? Religion is clearly a choice and we protect people from being discriminated against because of their religious choice.
Homosexuality simply possesses so much opportunity to prevent people from having access to employment over something that has nothing to do with the ability to do the job that it deserves to be a protected class.
Homosexuality simply possesses so much opportunity to prevent people from having access to employment over something that has nothing to do with the ability to do the job that it deserves to be a protected class.
Glad to read this. We are all just people. No need to build walls. Good work Mr. Cook!
