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Got a robocall at 3:25AM this morning - this can't take effect soon enough!

I have my phone set to auto do-not-disturb 10:30 PM - 6:15 AM just for the reason you pointed out. Robocalls are toxic to sleep. It helps that I no longer have a job that requires answering calls in the middle of the night.
 
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We have 100 Senators but only 98 votes. I guess 2 of them voted blank. 97 Senators voted to support this bill, except one who voted against. Wonder if this guy runs some of those robocall operations?
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Who would vote against this?

Only one person voted against:
Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky
 
I have my phone set to auto do-not-disturb 10:30 PM - 6:15 AM just for the reason you pointed out. Robocalls are toxic to sleep. It helps that I no longer have a job that requires answering calls in the middle of the night.

I usually do, but had it turned off to hear alerts from an Arlo baby monitor!
 
Yeah, good luck enforcing that on IP calls originating from Asia.
There should just be a blanket ban on those. Offer consumers an individual opt-in option to allow those calls to come through. I guarantee 99% of Americans have no desire to receive any call from another continent, aside possibly from family members or close friends who could be whitelisted.
 
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And this will change absolutely nothing. Remember the Do Not Call list? That had penalties, etc. None of them are enforced. This, just like the DNC list is a giant waste of time and nothing more than an opportunity for our do-nothing government to pat themselves on the back.
 
Why is this such a huge problem in the states, we do not have the problem here. (NL)

In many states like Texas the citizens are treated like peasants while business gets whatever they want. We have gillions of laws protecting businesses and allowing them to have their way with us, but very little protection from businesses, especially the BIG Businesses. Big Business owns the politicians here.
 
Why is this such a huge problem in the states, we do not have the problem here. (NL)
We had telemarketing calls to landlines in the US way before Europe. I know from personal (and my family and friends expert). Now my brother - in France - tells me they’re inundated with these calls.
So brace yourself, the tide is coming to you!
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There should just be a blanket ban on those. Offer consumers an individual opt-in option to allow those calls to come through. I guarantee 99% of Americans have no desire to receive any call from another continent, aside possibly from family members or close friends who could be whitelisted.
Unfortunately with IP calls, they can easily be rerouted from a US server so it may be hard to determine they’re from a specific country.
I mean, I get calls with voicemails in Chinese and the number that shows up is a local number.
The issue is spoofing, which we’re familiar with when using VPN.
 
Only one person voted against:
Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky

Rand Paul will vote down literally anything that involves the government regulating damn near anything (which makes me wonder why he's so anti-woman, I refuse to call it pro-file).
 
Your argument is devoid of any logic.

Did gas prices go up because BP, Shell, and Exxon were fined billions of dollars? No. They couldn't pass on those costs because it would make it impossible to compete. If Verizon is fined $10 billion for violating robocall laws, it can't simply jack up rates because everyone would switch to another carrier.

Not only would it be cheaper to comply (rather than "pass on costs" under your absurd theory), but protecting consumers by complying with the law would play a lot better in advertising.
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No. Easy to solve. Use your real number or the call is blocked.
buy hundreds of prepaid $20 android phones. install robodialing software. do spam calls. broke your method.
 
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We have 100 Senators but only 98 votes. I guess 2 of them voted blank. 97 Senators voted to support this bill, except one who voted against. Wonder if this guy runs some of those robocall operations?
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Only one person voted against:
Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky

Definitely should get Rand Paul's phone numbers out there so HE can enjoy the lovely fun of having robocallers spoofing local area code numbers while calling my business cell phone many times a day. This bill is long overdue. The only way I can deal with it now is to have Nomorobo running all the time and that's not enough so I have to have Do Not Disturb with the Allow Calls from All Contacts turned on, and I have to be good about getting new contacts in my iphone in a timely manner so their call goes through.
 
Pretty sad that with the government’s spy network that intercepts all emails and phone calls we have to put up with this. It really demonstrates the fact that government isn’t really motivated to fix problems.

To be clear, I am not in favor of the various spy programs. I’m just pointing out that with the technology the government has there is no way this should be a problem we deal with. Or alternatively, it could be that the alphabet soup agencies are easily thwarted by a bunch of scammers from India and China. Either way we pay a lot of taxes and get nothing good from it.
You want the government deciding which calls can get through to you and which can't? That's the N. Korea approach to phone service.
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There are richer countries, also, Europe is bigger, plenty of rich people there, it's got to be something else, like low telephone costs for instance.
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GDP per capita is higher in the Netherlands than the US!!!!!
Plenty of money and stupid people here, so no, not the main reason, I still think Language is the main reason why it's more of a problem there, the UK seems to have the same problem.
Latest IMF data claims US per capita GDP as $65K. Netherlands as $58K.

But this is a pointless exercise anyway as purchasing power parity, currency swings, etc. can rearrange these things in a hurry. Next year, those numbers could easily be reversed and no one on the ground would know the difference.

One thing that is reliable is the US has the highest total GDP at ~$21 trillion and that will always attract people trying to make money off of others.
 
I had to laugh when I saw one person voted against it because I knew without looking who it was.
 
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Doubt that is the reason, it's got to be more/something else.
I believe it is that simple. Our laws tend to leave loopholes to make sure they don’t limit companies like Google in what they might want to do for the sake of commerce. Telecoms haven’t moved aggressively into certain methods because there was a legal uncertainty based on our laws. Clear and decisive legislation removes the doubt.
 
We have 100 Senators but only 98 votes. I guess 2 of them voted blank. 97 Senators voted to support this bill, except one who voted against. Wonder if this guy runs some of those robocall operations?
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Only one person voted against:
Republican Sen. Rand Paul of Kentucky
Just because a bill is aimed at cutting down on robocalling doesn't mean it's going to be effective/worthwhile. It's like the UN passing resolutions "strongly condemning" ISIS. IDK if this bill is worthwhile cause I haven't read it.
 
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How does that list even work? Wouldn't be surprised if the act of registering on it gives my number out to every spammer. The only other way it could work is if the gov't kept their database private and offered a "check if a given number is on the list" service with rate limiting, which sounds unlikely.

That is exactly how it works.
 
This has been tried before. Good luck!

Hey, sign up for the "National Do Not Call" registry. That worked so well. :rolleyes:
 
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