Regardless of the outcome, I’m sure you appreciated the option of downloading apps not from the App Store though. That’s all we want— the option to do the same on iPhone.
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UK Antitrust Watchdog to Investigate Apple's App Store Policies [Updated]
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I cannot tell if you are agreeing or not. There is no requirement for any one manufacturer to provide an open market. There is an open market amongst all mobile device manufacturers. Narrow the market too much and the argument becomes moot.
Developing for Apple devices may not be a free market, but the barrier to entry is pretty low. Apple's native developer tools are free to download and use. Once you are ready to publish on the store you have pay the $99. And, yes, this option does require other Apple hardware on which to develop.
But, there are several cross-platform development environments that can target Apple devices. Many of these are free to download. Others have up front costs. Again, the $99 is only paid once you are actually ready to publish. These cross platform tools also require some sort of hardware to run (Windows, Linux or Mac).
Is Apple trying to protect us or control us? With Apples censorship of free speech and overwhelming push of politically correct content I have to wonder.
Lets not mince words here
Certain parties want to create their own App Store and profit like Apple did.
Why would the UK be investigating Apples App Store policies if they know it is fine? To me it seems like the UK is spying on Apple.
Exactly. Apple already provides some extra level of protection for apps loaded from outside of the Mac App store. It's called signed developer apps. The Macs arent being hacked left right and centre because of this. The phones won't be either.
Apple has kept a tight monopoly on the app distribution process. It's time for that to loosen. There are many ways to skin the cat.
I don't particularly mind the 15-30% that Apple charges for a one time sale of an app. I do have a much bigger problem with the cut they want from the subscription fees. Devs should be given a choice. Either continue as is, or pay a hosting fee for the app on the App Store, then charge whatever sub fees you want with no app store cut.
It’s always funny that people forget that that’s how things work on Mac. But what about piracy and security!!?! Last I checked we were bragging about those two things being non issues on macOS.
Sure is starting to devolve back into the usual “I’m on whatever side apples on <3”
Apple does:
SDK development 👍
OS development 🙏
Content moderation 👈
Store maintenance 👏
Reviewing the code 🙌
Marketing materials for developers 🏪
Payment processing and refunds 💸
Cloud sync data for games ☁️
If a developer does that they will be paying a lot of money for marketing, payment processing, cloud services, and they have to gain trust from customers that they are handling data as well as Apple. Nobody handles data and payment cards as well as Apple. NOBODY.
If Apple doesn’t earn from all that then they will have to charge for operating system upgrades again, charge more for developer accounts and charge for XCode too. They have been giving away free software for 10 years.
Also, you can subscribe to services outside the App Store. Netflix, Prime, Spotify, Adobe. All can be subscribed from a web browser.
Your Mac is safe to use, but yes it is less secure than an iOS/iPadOS device and you are exposing yourself to security and privacy risks if you load applications that are not from the Mac App Store.
Most likely the opposite with Apple possibly having assets in SIS already.
If you don't feel comfortable getting your apps outside of Apple's walled garden, don't. You won't be forced to. It'll be an option.
For those who have no problem getting an app from outside of the app store (e.g. directly from the developer or another app store), let them.
Why are so many people here against having a choice?
The CMA would be wise to focus first on "how & why" Apple Controls the Narrative in their "curated' iOS App Store.
NOT Rocket Science, they figure that out, & they will have Insight into the App Store that most do NOT.
NOT Rocket Science, they figure that out, & they will have Insight into the App Store that most do NOT.
It is not "We believe in thriving and competitive markets where any great idea can flourish." when Apple stops so many apps just because it can, not because they are dangerous or a problem. Sure they also stop some problems and if that was all they did, then fine. But it is not.
We need an alternative App Store or the ability to side load.
Now I understand that this forum has a lot of people that reside in their own little white room with bumper pads and are so afraid they want to stifle freedom, but there are some of us that know how to manage ourselves and our own behavior.
If you don't want to use any other App Store and are fine with Apple's nanny rules, then fine. I don't want to stop you from using Apple's App Store and its archaic freedom destroying rules. But there is absolutely no technical or dangerous reason for you to block me from loading the software I want on MY phone. Unless, of course, you have other motives that are not related to your phone and your security.
We need an alternative App Store or the ability to side load.
Now I understand that this forum has a lot of people that reside in their own little white room with bumper pads and are so afraid they want to stifle freedom, but there are some of us that know how to manage ourselves and our own behavior.
If you don't want to use any other App Store and are fine with Apple's nanny rules, then fine. I don't want to stop you from using Apple's App Store and its archaic freedom destroying rules. But there is absolutely no technical or dangerous reason for you to block me from loading the software I want on MY phone. Unless, of course, you have other motives that are not related to your phone and your security.
In macOS I use both models. Don’t see how macOS hybrid model would hurt iOS or it users. Certainly is not hurting users in macOS. Unless Apple is also implying that macOS is an unsafe for users, a place that user cannot trust, don’t understand the argument poised by Apple.
So it must be that iOS is safe and trusted place for Apple to collect 30% of digital services revenues. In macOS, as other options are given to both digital services and users, that is not so much the case.
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Well. I cannot think of a reason why I’m having bluetooth connection challenges with latest macOS when I had none before. Even with AirPods sometimes. I think there is probably more investment in QA process for iPhone / iOS rather than Mac / macOS. Not to mention that macOS may be a more complex piece of software than iOS. Which is natural, as the other is at the center of Apple growth.
BAM, that was the first slap, great to read this...now back to the terminal...
Of course they had to shout back some marketing BS that Apples saves the world, and without Apple we would still be eating Bananas and sleeping on trees, morons.
Of course they had to shout back some marketing BS that Apples saves the world, and without Apple we would still be eating Bananas and sleeping on trees, morons.